Linux-Advocacy Digest #735, Volume #30 Fri, 8 Dec 00 08:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (Curtis)
Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever (Curtis)
Re: Red Hat drops Sparc support with new Linux version ("Pedro Coto")
Re: Linux is awful ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux is awful ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Windows review (Curtis)
Re: Windows review (Curtis)
Re: Windows review (Curtis)
Re: Just in case anybody is wondering about reliability (SwifT -)
Re: Linux is awful ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Microsoft , makers of what ? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux is awful ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Of course, there is a down side... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 06:10:46 -0500
T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
[..]
| Now, it is true that you have to compete when you do it the open source
You mean you spend months or years developing software, GPL, only to
find that some opportunist starts packaging and distributing your
software, offering services and making more profit from *your* efforts
than *you* do?
| way, while current commercial reality allows you to profiteer on
| copyright code wrapped in a trade secret. But that just guarantees that
| it isn't competitive software,
Oh? You're going overboard now. The commercial software industry is
highly competitive at present. There's a lot more to the software
industry than MS Office and Outlook you know.
| so when software that supports
| competition, like GPL code, is included in the market, the trade secret
| crapware can't possibly keep up, in a free market.
Are the Applixware guys going out of business?
| I don't expect that
| it will be more than five or six years, tops, before trade secret
| software is reduced to a niche where it belongs.
That I know is just as wrong as the statement 5 or 6 years ago that
Linux would have dominated by now.
--
Curtis
| ,__o
!___ _-\_<, An egotist thinks he's in the groove
<(*)>--(*)/'(*)______________________ when he's in a rut.
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From: Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windoze 2000 - just as shitty as ever
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 06:32:28 -0500
T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
| >| Quite true. That's why people (like me, I'll admit) get incensed about
| >| the current state of affairs. Its also what drives the move to the GPL.
| >| So if you don't like GPL, then don't do it. We know that'll never work,
| >| and the GPL software will eventually take over the planet, but its only
| >| fair to warn them.
| >
| >Let's see what happens shall we?
|
| Well, we can hardly avoid that, I would expect. Does this mean you
| concede the point?
No. I cannot say that it will not take over. I can only wait and see.
Analysts have made all sorts of predictions in the past and many have
not come to pass.
[.........]
| I don't know what argument you are referring to; perhaps you're unaware
| you've just invented something entirely unrelated to what we've been
| discussing. Frankly, sir, you should get your head out of your ass.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I was just admiring the fact that you kept such statements out of your
posts for so long.
So long.
--
Curtis
| ,__o
!___ _-\_<, An egotist thinks he's in the groove
<(*)>--(*)/'(*)______________________ when he's in a rut.
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From: "Pedro Coto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat drops Sparc support with new Linux version
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 11:35:05 GMT
> I also don't see how an alternate operating system could
> effectively compete against Solaris Sparc on Sun's hardware. It's
> Unix98 standard, rock solid, and well supported by Sun and
> application vendors. The only advantage linux has is more device
> drivers for low end hardware, and that doesn't really matter if
> you buy a Sun box.
I disagree, I have tested GNU/Linux (Debian 2.1 and SuSE
6.4) on Ultra10 and it goes faster than Solaris as web server,
mail server (Netscape, sendmail and qmail). It includes a lot more
utilities, a lot more development tools. When you install Solaris
you always end installing a lot of GNU software, so, if it goes
faster, why don't install GNU software from the beginning ? You
then loose Solaris Sun hardware integration and things like hard
disk hot swap, but ... not too interesting for me.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 06:37:29 -0500
kiwiunixman wrote:
>
> Kelsey Bjarnason wrote:
>
> > "kiwiunixman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> >
> >> From what I understand, the UDMA 100 card mentioned in the original
> >> post is one of those PCI add in cards,
> >
> >
> > The OP was from me... and no, it's not a card; it's the controller built
> > into the motherboard. One of the controllers, actually; it has both a 100
> > and a 66/IDE controller.
>
> So, in a nutshell, it is a motherboard with 2 IDE controllers that are
> UDMA 100. correct? If so, UDMA 100 controllers are backwards compatible
> to 66/33 UDMA. Linux, currently supports UDMA up to 66 (can still use
> an UDMA 100 controller, however, it is not optimised for it), however,
> it is an urban myth that UDMA 100 gives better HDD performance than UDMA
> 66/33 as the speed depends on factors outside the specs of the
> controller, such as the rotation speed of the disk, the size of the
> buffer, internal transfer rate and the speed of the CPU (as IDE
> controllers are very CPU hungry, hence, the reason why most power users
> prefer SCSI).
Actually, I've never seen a UDMA disk that could actually live up
to its rating. SCSI disks barely do, and that's only because they
let go of the channel while doing the seek, AND because they have
LARGE onboard caches.
>
> kiwiunixman
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.x,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 11:49:15 GMT
In alt.os.linux.mandrake Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
: news:9M0X5.624$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
:> Editing one line in XF86Config, in my case. Didn't even need a man file. It
:> was pretty self explainitory.
: As opposed to click a drop down box in a GUI? You honestly think messing
: with config files is simple for someone that doesn't know how to set their
: VCR?
I don't see why not! I don't know how to set my VCR (or how to operate
my telephone, or get my messages from the answerphone). But I have no
trouble editing a config file. The config file, after all, is in plain
english, and uses an interface I already understand and need no
training on: text.
In contrast, I have no idea what most of the icons I see on gui interfaces
are meant to represent. They look like coptic to me. And yes, I can
read at least some chinese! I still have to ask which icon means "save"
whenever I see a windows box.
Peter
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From: Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Windows review
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 06:53:42 -0500
"Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
| > No I need to move four out of 25 text files within the same directory.
| > Some of them have 30-40 character names, so I can't remember their exact
| > names. Using a GUI file manager is at least as effective.
|
| What do you do when you are alternating back and forth between two or
| more long directory paths in a GUI that only remembers one? A cli with
| command recall and edit is faster for me in this common situation.
Use more than one explorer window, or even three? I have a 19" screen.
There are many file managers available that have two windows to do
filemanagement with.
There's also the back button to move back and forth with. In explorer
that amounts to hitting the back and forward buttons.
--
Curtis
| ,__o
!___ _-\_<, An egotist thinks he's in the groove
<(*)>--(*)/'(*)______________________ when he's in a rut.
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From: Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Windows review
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 06:54:50 -0500
"Kelsey Bjarnason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
| [snips]
|
| "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
| news:Bl_X5.40981$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
|
| > > No I need to move four out of 25 text files within the same directory.
| > > Some of them have 30-40 character names, so I can't remember their exact
| > > names. Using a GUI file manager is at least as effective.
| >
| > What do you do when you are alternating back and forth between two or
| > more long directory paths in a GUI that only remembers one? A cli with
| > command recall and edit is faster for me in this common situation.
|
| 1) Open a copy of Windows Explorer, browse to the source folder
| 2) Select the files to copy
| 3) Right-click, "copy"
| 4) Open a second copy of Windows Explorer, browse to the target folder
You don't even have to do that. Just browse to the folder in the same
explorer window and do a drag and drop operation.
| 5) Right-click, "paste"
| 6) Click or alt-tab to switch between the windows as needed for further
| operations
|
|
|
--
Curtis
| ,__o
!___ _-\_<, An egotist thinks he's in the groove
<(*)>--(*)/'(*)______________________ when he's in a rut.
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From: Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Windows review
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 06:56:18 -0500
"Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
| > 1) Open a copy of Windows Explorer, browse to the source folder
| > 2) Select the files to copy
| > 3) Right-click, "copy"
| > 4) Open a second copy of Windows Explorer, browse to the target folder
| > 5) Right-click, "paste"
| > 6) Click or alt-tab to switch between the windows as needed for further
| > operations
|
| And that is supposed to be easier? It looks like a several-minute job if
| the directories are large and you have to wait for each to open and
| then scroll around to select the files.
As I will always say, it depends on the situation.
A CLI can be cumbersome for simple file management.
--
Curtis
| ,__o
!___ _-\_<, An egotist thinks he's in the groove
<(*)>--(*)/'(*)______________________ when he's in a rut.
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From: SwifT - <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Just in case anybody is wondering about reliability
Date: Fri, 8 Dec 2000 12:45:15 +0100
On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, mlw wrote:
> I don't know about anyone else, I heard that about the initial release
> of Win2K, and we have heard the same about every release and SP of
> NT/2K. This game of "The next service pack will be solid" got really old
> back in NT 4.0 SP1. Does anyone seriously believe that MS has any
> credibility when it comes to reliability?
Since SP4, NT4 is stable enough. I bet it will be the same for 2K. It's
just that 2K isn't ready yet for the big test (unless you pump several
million $'s in it - like Microsoft does).
--
SwifT
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 07:07:19 -0500
Sourav Laskar wrote:
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups:
> comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.os.li
> nux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
> Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 2:50 PM
> Subject: Re: Linux is awful
>
> > I would say that anything below P133Mhz+32MB is indeed old.
>
> That minimum spec. is a joke.
> Indeed, my home P-3 500, 64 MB, iBX takes ages to start with Win2K, with
> ocassional GPFs in Windows Explorer. That with services configured to
> minimum. Of course, I cannot remove some "value added services" like
> AntiVirus.
> The same machine has Red Hat 7 with X -- bullet fast.
What's really amazing was the quite decent speed we had on
a 30 MHz, 16Mbyte Gould PN-9080 with (50) FIFTY USERS...and
this was using RLL or MFM drives. (circa 1985).
>
> -Sourav
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft , makers of what ?
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 07:10:14 -0500
kiwiunixman wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> The real list of what Microsoft has created:
>
> The heart warming, cult symbol of the Wintel community, the BSOD.
>
> Introduced users to the "save-save-save and remember to save again"
> metality.
>
> The commonly used excuse by telephone operators that "there will be a
> slight delay as my computer has just crashed, and has to reboot".
>
> Remember to Virus scan your PeeCee once a week.
Is that all??
I have continuous virus scanning for ALL incoming traffic....
and viruses STILL pop up on the LoseDOS box occasionally
(Maybe i should take to making daily updates to the
virus data files.)
>
> That a computer crashing twice a day is perfectly normal.
>
> kiwiunixman
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Linux is awful
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 07:13:40 -0500
Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:nyPX5.3223$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "Tom Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:njJX5.2299$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > Just as I thought. You don't know what it means.
> > > >
> > > > System Resources is an average of the three 64K system heaps in 16 bit
> > > > Windows. These are used for GDI handles, Menu handles, global 16 bit
> > > memory
> > > > handles, etc.. They have nothing to do with the first 640k.
> > > >
> > > > Further, being low on resources does not slow your system down. The
> > only
> > > > negative aspect that these resources are capable of producings is if
> you
> > > run
> > > > out of them completely, in which case windows will fail to open and a
> > few
> > > > other peculiarities.
> > >
> > > Some software, even MS's own software, fails to release GDI handles and
> > that
> > > fragments the crap out of your memory pool. Legacy Win16 apps are
> > > particularly bad about it. It indeed can slow things down over time.
> Kept
> > up
> > > long enough, one of those peculiarites is a completely schizo box that
> can
> > > and will crash with a boom. Even NT boxes. One of my projects did that
> > very
> > > thing until I tracked down the offending code.The problem behavior went
> > away
> > > after I corrected it.
> >
> > The 3 system heaps in 9x are kept in non-pageable memory. Their maximum
> > size is 64K. What you're suggesting is just not possible. If the heaps
> > were huge and pageable, then larger allocations and management would be an
> > issue, but 64K, no matter how fragmented is virtualy instantaneous.
>
> That's what I've always been told. It doesn't explain away the situation
> described above, though. And, yes, the only memory leaks in my code were
> dropped GDI handles. Win9x does a better job than Win16, for certain, but it
> isn't perfect. Nowhere close.
Who came up with this crap?
Must be those Carnegie-Mellon grads........NOT!
>
> >
> > NT generally doesn't have the problem with running out of resources (It's
> > possible, but HIGHLY unlikely. You would need to be creating new
> resources
> > at a tremendous rate to run out of the 2GB system heaps.)
>
> The time it took the buggy project to spiral down, under NT, was several
> weeks. The project IS highly graphical, with dynamic backgrounds, an
> membership image library, proportional fonts and menus, etc.... (People for
> some reason just love flash). A lot of resources but not enough to justify
> what happened.
>
> >
> > > Another thing I found is that the less you rely on MFC, the better your
> > > application's performance and uptime.
> >
> > That's simply not true. There are gotcha's to using MFC that, if you're
> > aware of them, don't cause any problems. For instance, if a resource
> (such
> > as a bitmap or pen) is selected into a DC when the MFC wrapper goes out of
> > scope, it won't delete the resource and you'll have a leak. MFC does have
> a
> > few leaks, but they are one-time leaks and fairly small, thus they do not
> > grow and are taken care of by the OS when it exits.
>
> I wish it weren't true. It would have made things so much easier. The second
> I started encapsulating Win32 myself, memory leaks mysteriously vanished.
> There is something WRONG with those classes. My experience isn't a unique
> one, either.
>
> >
> > If you use a tool like Purify (which is available for Unix as well) you
> can
> > easily prevent your apps from having resource problems.
>
> Well thought out code is a better answer to the problem.
>
> --
> Tom Wilson
> Registered Linux User #194021
> http://counter.li.org
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Of course, there is a down side...
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 07:19:58 -0500
"B. P. Uecker" wrote:
>
> Tom Wilson wrote in <msGX5.2276$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> >For that matter, with all that funding and development time behind it, NT
> >got its' ass kicked by a Unix clone built by a loosely coordinated band of
> >hackers and some guy in Finland. Now that is SAD!
>
> Linux is a replacement for Netware in your dreams. The problem with
> Linux (aside from the fact that open source development is a black
> hole) is that it tries to be everything to everyone and masters
> nothing. It is basically acceptable as a server platform but beyond
> its circle of devotees (and dolts who who can do no better than parrot
> slashdot) it has no mindshare. Linux on the desktop will never happen
> and on the server end it is mainly a toy for easily distracted geeks
> who will eventually find another bandwagon to hop on. I give it
> another couple of years before it joins OS/2 in the trash heap. And
> I'm a generous man.
Netware is basically a hack of AT&T Unix version 6 (source code was
freely available...in fact, you can STILL buy it at Barnes and Noble)
to give network services to the years-behind-the-fucking-times DOS
boxes...
If Novell wanted, Netware could be ported to all POSIX-compliant
versions of Unix (including Linux) within a month.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nobody wants Linux because it destroys hard disks.
Date: Fri, 08 Dec 2000 07:22:56 -0500
Swangoremovemee wrote:
>
> On Thu, 07 Dec 2000 04:21:59 GMT, "Les Mikesell"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >If you are so modern, why didn't you load the current RH or Mandrake
> >with USB support instead of complaining about an old copy?
> >
>
> And it might be a good idea for you to learn how to read. Where did I
> say what version of Redcrap I installed? You are making incorrect
> assumptions here.
>
> FWIW it is the latest version RH 7.x and it sucks just as bad as every
> other version of Linux I have used.
Spot the lie
You write RH 7.x as if you aren't quite sure which revision of
RedHat 7.x you have.
Are you saying that you can't remember the digit zero?
Free CLUE FOR THE FUCKING CLUELESS:
There's not even a RH 7.1 yet...
>
> Swango
> "It Don't Mean a Thang if it Ain't Got That Swang"
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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