Linux-Advocacy Digest #262, Volume #31            Fri, 5 Jan 01 06:13:03 EST

Contents:
  Re: Big government and big business: why not fear both - www.ezboard.com ("Aaron R. 
Kulkis")
  Re: Would Linux be invented if? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Question with Security on Linux/Unix versus Windows NT/2000 ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: ATA RIPOFF!  ALERT! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Why NT? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? (Richard Steiner)
  Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? (Richard Steiner)
  Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? (Richard Steiner)
  Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? (Richard Steiner)

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.fan.bill-gates,alt.destroy.microsoft,alt.microsoft.sucks
Subject: Re: Big government and big business: why not fear both - www.ezboard.com
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 04:59:43 -0500

JM wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 03 Jan 2001 17:44:39 -0500, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>  ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> 
> >Jacques Guy wrote:
> >>
> >> "Joseph T. Adams" wrote:
> >> >
> >> > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > : CLEARLY!  ANYONE WHO STANDS ON THE SIDE OF MICROSOFT
> >> > : IS EITHER A MORON OR A CRIMINAL!
> >>
> >> > Or they might simply be misinformed.
> >>
> >> Or merely greedy and blinded by their greed. I met
> >> a fellow about a  year ago, and we got talking about
> >> computers, of course. He told me what a great company
> >> Microsoft was. I asked why. "Because  I have Microsoft
> >> shares and I see the day soon when I'll be able to
> >> retire."
> >
> >I'm glad to know that this unnamed in-duh-vidual has seen his
> >fortune shrivel like a dried pea....
> 
> >Bwaaaaaaaahahaha
> >
> >
> >Poetic justice for all who have invested in the criminal organization.
> 
> Why have you given two different responses to the same post?

Because I chose to do so.


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Would Linux be invented if?
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 05:02:18 -0500

kiwiunixman wrote:
> 
> either that or the new VW beatle

Ah yes...the VW Beetle...revived because so many hippy-dippy baby boomers
(who profess to hate anything Nazi) were sooooo fond of the original Nazi-mobile.

(Not only do they like the Nazi-mobile, they are also fond of Nazi-style
 restrictions on speech, religion, and gun-ownership....go figure).


> 
> kiwiunixman
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > kiwiunixman wrote:
> > >
> > > Correct, what would you rather have,  a Mercedes Benz or a Ford Falcon?
> I
> > > would rather have the Mercedes Benz!
> >
> > Depends on the Mercedes.  Mercedes only exports their luxury lines.
> >
> > In Europe, most Mercedes that are sold are more along the line of
> Chevrolets.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > kiwiunixman
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Charlie Ebert wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > > > Donn Miller wrote:
> > > > > >You forgot Plan 9.  When I had this particular interview, the
> person
> > > > > >doing the hiring said that Windows NT is easier to use than unix.
> He
> > > > > >also said that a lot of software was being ported to Windows from
> unix,
> > > > > >so that makes it a good reason to switch.  (*Shrugs*.  This is a
> good
> > > > > >reason to switch?!)  Departments switching from unix to NT also
> cite
> > > > > >that fact that Windows has the great clipboard thingie, and that
> you
> > > can
> > > > > >do all kinds of sophisticated OLE stuff with it.  For example, if
> you
> > > do
> > > > > >some analysis with engineering software, you can select the data,
> or
> > > > > >click on a graph for example, and select "copy" from the menu.
>  And --
> > > > > >get this -- brace yourself -- Windows' clipboard is so neat and
> > > > > >ulta-sophisticated, it allows you to select what kind of data you'd
> > > like
> > > > > >to paste into your document.  For example, you can select "plain
> text",
> > > > > >"word document", and "bitmap".  Dammit, X11 doesn't have anything
> near
> > > > > >this sophisticated, so I suppose that automatically makes Windows
> NT
> > > > > >better.  Besides, they say, unix isn't a good OS to use unless you
> are
> > > > > >doing intensive computational projects, or running a server.
> > > > >
> > > > > I wonder what people would think about this idea.
> > > > >
> > > > > If there were no Microsoft and Windows was never invented.
> > > > >
> > > > > If we still had Novel and Apple battling it out with Unix's,
> > > > > WOULD THERE HAVE BEEN LINUX?
> > > > >
> > > > > I think the answer to that is YES.
> > > > >
> > > > > Linus mastered Linux because he wanted a replacement for Minix.
> > > > >
> > > > > Linus had no vision of conquering Microsoft at all.  This was
> > > > > never his objective.
> > > > >
> > > > > Isn't it funny how all those companies who HAD OBJECTIVES to
> > > > > conquer Windows failed and the one who was just playing one
> > > > > year with a kernel with NO AMBITIONS WHAT-SO-EVER will be
> > > > > the one to topple Microsoft.
> > > >
> > > > Thus, QUALITY was the primary goal, instead of marketing.
> > > >
> > > > High quality sells itself.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This is the work of god.
> > > >
> > > > No...its the work of quality.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Charlie
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > > Unix Systems Engineer
> > > > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > > > ICQ # 3056642
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> > > >     premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> > > >     you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> > > >     you are lazy, stupid people"
> > > >
> > > > I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> > > >    challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> > > >    between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> > > >    Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> > > >
> > > > J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> > > >    The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> > > >    also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> > > >
> > > > A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.
> > > >
> > > > B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> > > >    method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> > > >    direction that she doesn't like.
> > > >
> > > > C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> > > >
> > > > D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> > > >    ...despite (C) above.
> > > >
> > > > E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> > > >    her behavior improves.
> > > >
> > > > F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues
> against
> > > >    adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> > > >
> > > > G:  Knackos...you're a retard.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
> > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > ICQ # 3056642
> >
-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question with Security on Linux/Unix versus Windows NT/2000
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 05:09:08 -0500

kiwiunixman wrote:
> 
> There is a gradual move back to centralised computing (esp. in the area of

They only reason we *ever* moved away from centralised computing was
because the original IBM PC was a corporate STATUS SYMBOL to have one
on your desk (even though those who actually had them usually didn't
even know how to type).  To demonstrate that you had even MORE CORPORATE
STATUS, you would get a 2nd one for your secretary.

To FURTHER demonstrate your CORPORATE STATUS, you would then go and
get IBM PC's for all of your staff.

Benefit/cost ratios had nothing to do with it.

If Benefit/cost ratios had been looked at, we NEVER would have left
centralized computing at the corporate level.

However, there was a beneficial side-effect.  I know have the equivalent
of several PC's at home....Personal Crays, that is...

Remember when the top-of-the-line liquid-helium cooled Crays
were doing 10 MFLOPS (10 Mega Floating-Point Oporations/second)...





-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ATA RIPOFF!  ALERT!
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 05:09:42 -0500

Tim Smith wrote:
> 
> Charlie Ebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >This is how Microsoft and appearently IBM plan
> >on competing in the future.
> 
> Uhm...Microsoft is against it.

Only because they couldn't get a big enough piece of the action, I'm sure.


> 
> --Tim Smith


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why NT?
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 05:10:27 -0500

Todd wrote:
> 
> "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > With operating systems as great as Linux and FreeBSD available for free,
> > why would anyone consider Windows NT Server?
> >
> > I can't think of a single reason why any responsible IT department would
> > deploy NT.
> 
> Neither can I.  We are deploying Windows 2000.
> 
> Linux shouldn't be trying to compete with NT.  Linux needs to be able to
> compete with 2000 - which I don't believe it can do yet, if ever.
> 
> -Todd

Sure thing, Todd Needham, Microshaft employee.


> 
> > --
> > http://www.mohawksoft.com


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft?
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 05:11:33 -0500

Todd wrote:
> 
> "chrisv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >Nope... appeals *will* overturn the verdict.  MS did not break the law.
> > >
> > >-Todd
> >
> > You're an idiot, Todd.
> 
> We will see when the verdict is overturned.  Who will be the idiot then?

How will the verdict be overturned when Microsoft isn't even appealing it?


Clue for the shithead Microshaft employee Todd Needham

Microsoft is appealing the SENTANCE, ****NOT**** the conviction,
you shameless shill.


> 
> -Todd


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Linux envy Microsoft?
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 05:12:37 -0500

Todd wrote:
> 
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > chrisv wrote:
> > >
> > > "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >Nope... appeals *will* overturn the verdict.  MS did not break the law.
> > > >
> > > >-Todd
> > >
> > > You're an idiot, Todd.
> >
> > Specifically, Todd Needham, Microshaft employee
> 
> You Linux users are wrong many times.  Here is another example.
> 
> I am not the same Todd as Todd Needham.  I work for HP.  With a little

Then why do you write things that are so idiotic that only
a Microshaft employee could say them.


> research, you will be able to find my family name.  Hint - search
> comp.os.os2.advocacy.
> 
> -Todd
> 
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > Unix Systems Engineer
> > DNRC Minister of all I survey
> > ICQ # 3056642
> >
> >

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 03:44:52 -0600

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:

>ALL is sort of like a find all.   It displays all lines containing the
>specified pattern.   But instead of simply moving to a line that matches
>the pattern, it displays all lines that match.  Any lines that do not
>match are disabled from being displayed.

Sounds like the "LC" and "FC" commands in most common OS2200 editors
(ED, FSED, TOCED, and UEDIT all support them)

The former shows the first<screen-lines> lines that match an arbitrary
pattern, and the latter puts a left-column anchor on the search.  They
are variants on the "L" (Locate) and "F" (Find) commands.

>You can also selectively show non-matching lines above or below a
>matching line using the SHOW command.

One UEDIT variant at Unisys Roseville did that using the F9 and F10
keys, but I've not implemented that in my version yet.  Useful, tho,
for diving into/out of context.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  >>>--->  Eden Prairie, MN
      OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + PC/GEOS + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                   A naked man fears no pickpocket.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 03:35:00 -0600

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:

>Still sucks rocks compared to vi and emacs.

Yay -- an editor holy war!  ;-)

I agree that vi and emacs are good editors, but I personally preferred
SOS and then EDT on the VAXen in college, and nowadays I use FTE (DOS,
OS/2, Linux) almost exclusively on these little boxes instead of vim or
emacs.  I like FTE's Qedit-like (TDE-like?) interface a bit better.

I've used text editors on platforms ranging from CDC Cybers to VAXen to
UNIVAC 1100's to Trash-80's to Intel PCs to Unix flavors to Macs, and
it always amazes me how many different (and yet strangely effective)
text-editing paradigms there are. 

Some folks have really WEIRD ideas about editing text!  :-)

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  >>>--->  Eden Prairie, MN
      OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + PC/GEOS + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                 HA HAH HA HAH HAH <SMACK> ... oof ...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 04:02:57 -0600

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
spake unto us, saying:

>Why should I need a MANUAL to use a damn terminal????

Some terminals are more vastly intelligent than others.

The UTS20 and UTS60 terminals that we use to connect to the Unisys
mainframe hosts, for example, do all editing (including character and
line/column insertions and deletions) locally on the terminal screen,
and are capable of doing protection (the cursor won't go there), text
alignment, and even enforcement of alpha or numeric content locally
on a field-by-field basis.

The network and the host machine isn't involved in any of those things.
Only when the Transmit key or selection function keys are hit is any
sort of signal sent outside the terminal itself because the base UTS is
intelligent enough to interpret the field descriptors that the host
painted on its screen.

Don't assume that all terminals are patterned after DEC's brain-dead
streaming VT-xxx designs...

>Again.....the very notion that one should need a manual for a terminal
>is indicative of the sorry level of programming standards at IBM.

Your apparent assumption that all things follow the common UNIX pattern
may indicate a lack of experience with more complex terminal hardware.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  >>>--->  Eden Prairie, MN
      OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + PC/GEOS + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
                  "I like camping", he said intently...

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 03:43:48 -0600

Here in comp.os.os2.misc, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Brock)
spake unto us, saying:

>Having used both extensively I have to agree.  In particular I miss
>the "ALL" command in Xedit, which has no counterpart in any other
>editor I've used.

>From your description, it sounds like a very nice feature.  Sounds like
it enables someone to temporarily isolate a set of lines which match a
search criteria in a temporary editing area for selective editing, and
then remerges the changes into the original text when the ALL command
is terminated.

That wasn't my initial impression.  Thanks!

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  >>>--->  Eden Prairie, MN
      OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
      + PC/GEOS + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
          Why mow it when it's soooo much more fun to smoke it?

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