Linux-Advocacy Digest #355, Volume #31            Tue, 9 Jan 01 17:13:04 EST

Contents:
  Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Is Bill Gates MAD?!?!? (Steve Mading)
  Re: EXCLUSIVE: Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code (Steve Mading)
  Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: kernel problems (.)
  Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it   does) ) 
(Steve Mading)
  Re: Why does Win2k always fail in running time? (Tim Hanson)
  Re: kernel problems ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant. (.)
  Re: Who LOVES Linux again? (Steve Mading)
  Re: OEditors: Xedit vs. vi or emacs ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
  Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 15:39:13 -0500

Steve Mading wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> :> vi
> :>
> :> "/" = search forwards for regular_expression
> :> "?" = search backwards for regular_expression
> :> "n" = repeat search in the same direction
> :> "N" = repeat search in the opposite direction
> :>
> :> /some_pattern    moves cursor to some_pattern
> :> n               moves to next occurance of some_pattern
> :> n               moves to next occurance of some_pattern
> :> (repeat as necessary)
> :> N               move in the opposite direction
> :>
> 
> : Any editor can do this.  But you still have all the non-matching lines
> : displayed and getting in the way of seeing what you are really interested
> : in.
> 
> Why would anyone be interested in seeing and editing all the matches on
> the screen in a list, without the appropriate context?  If no editing is
> being done, then 'grep' covers the functionality you want, but if on the
> other hand editing *is* being done, then I'm going to want to see all the
> context of the full screen around the match so I know for sure that I'm
> making the right edit, and at that point the 'search/next/next/next'
> technique available in all editors works just as well.
> 
> In other words, if I want to see a contextless list, then it's a
> sitiation where I don't want to edit the lines.
> 
> I'm not trying to flame - I'm genuinely confused about the utility
> of this feature - tell me why you find it useful, because I can't
> see it.

It's VERY USEFUL for pointing out that other editors lack this useless "feature"

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 15:45:55 -0500

Steve Mading wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> :>
> :>
> :> Why should I need a MANUAL to use a damn terminal????
> :>
> :> Again.....the very notion that one should need a manual for a terminal
> :> is indicative of the sorry level of programming standards at IBM.
> :>
> 
> : Now you are just being dense.   You do not have to read the 3270 manual to use a 
>3270 or to use
> : xedit.   You DO have to read the manual if you want to write a full screen editor 
>such as
> : xedit.   If you read the manual then you might understand what the xedit 
>developers had to deal
> : with.   Unlike a VT102, the 3270 is not a character device.   It is a structured 
>block
> : device.   xedit does not see the characters as you type them.   All of the 
>insertion of
> : characters is done by the 3270 device.    You can write an entire screens worth of 
>data and
> : nothing is sent to the processor.   Nothing is sent to xedit.   Not until you hit 
>the Enter
> : key.   xedit is not involved in any way with insertion of characters as you are 
>typing them.
> : NULLS ON is an attempt to bypass the limitations of the 3270 device.  It is not 
>perfect and can
> : have negative side effects.   THAT IS WHY IT IS NOT THE DEFAULT.   Too many users 
>would be
> : screaming if it was.
> 
> I really hate defending Aaron, because he's just as annoying as Tholen,
> but both the 3270 AND the XEDIT software were designed by IBM, and
> therefore in an argument about whether or not IBM's software
> standards are bad, it doesn't matter which is responsible for
> quirky behaviour - they are both IBM's doing, and they both have
> to do with software standards, even the terminal  (You might not
> think of a hardwired, non-CPU style of terminal as 'software', but
> that's not what's under the discussion here - it's the protocol for
> how to talk to that terminal, and that protocol, designed on paper,
> as a series of bytes to send back and forth that have symbolic meaning,
> counts as a software standard in my book - it's a standard for how
> software using the terminal will have to be designed.)
> 
> The fact that the 3270 *protocol standard* was designed to be
> incapable of communicating spaces actually entered by the user
> when those spaces appear at the end of a line of text is a bad
> *software* standard.

Actually, the standard is to communicate all unfilled positions at the
end of a line, PAST what the user has typed, as "space" characters,
as if the user padded the line by using the space bar to the far right
hand side of the screen.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is Bill Gates MAD?!?!?
Date: 9 Jan 2001 20:42:35 GMT

Martigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

:     It's like cars these days, not many people can change their own oil,
: hell some can't even pump gas.  They don't care how it works, just that it
: does.  So in that aspect.  Microsoft "whistler"(sp?) is the next vision of
: Mr. Gates.

"Some people can't even pump gas"???  In the '50s I'd believe that,
when full-service gas stations existed.  Today everything is self-serve.
Anyone who can't pump their own gas is someone who can't get gas at all.


------------------------------

From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: EXCLUSIVE: Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code
Date: 9 Jan 2001 20:45:13 GMT

Adam Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Hacker Steals Redhat Linux Source Code"

Quite Onion-worthy.  Good work.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 15:50:22 -0500

Steve Mading wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Gary Hallock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> :> So, in other words, the idiotic behavior of IBM XEDIT is due to the idiotic
> :> behavior of the IBM 3270 terminal, which is determined by the idiotic software
> :> written by IBM programmers.
> :>
> 
> : Close, except for one critical point you missed.  The 3270 terminal is hardwired.  
> So
> : you can blame the hardware if you want, but not the software.
> 
> The design of a protocol *is* part of software design.  And what
> is making the 3270 behaviour bad here is that *protocol design*,
> not the hardware implementation of it.  It doesn't matter if it
> got *implemented* with hardware or software, the protocol itself
> counts as software design.  The mistake was made long before
> anyone ever started discussing how to actually implement the 3270
> terminal.  The behaviour was mandated by the original protocol spec.
> The notion that it is "correct" to be unable to distinguish between
> blanks typed by the user and blanks not typed by the user is the
> mistake.

And this is why I say that in my book, IBM is notorious for hideously
bad software.

Look at the difference between TCP/IP and SNA.

SNA definitions take a minimum of 3 files, at about 45 lines each on any
machine that runs SNA, plus one additional file FOR EVERY OTHER SNA HOST
stored ON EACH MACHINE.

Fucking nightmare.

Conversely, tcp/ip requires the host to assign itself an
address, and a short routing table

Not only that, but tcp/ip will re-route in the event of
catastrophic outages (as in, 1/4 of the network was taken out
by various nuclear explosions).


-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 15:52:04 -0500

Steve Mading wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> : Then why do you keep chastising me for not getting XEDIT to run in
> : a sane, predictable fashion because I didn't read the 3270 manual?
> 
> : It' helps not to contradict yourself within the space of 2 posts.
> 
> He's not contradicting himself.  There is a difference between
> knowing how to use something and having an argument about whether
> it is good or not.  His stance is that reading the manual is only
> needed to be informed in the argument.  It is possible to use the
> editor and remain ignorant of 3270's stupid design.

Yes...I know...I have used XEDIT off and on for a total of 6 years,
and I have never seen a 3270 manual.

However, he's also arguing that I should have read the non-existant
3270 manual to use XEDIT properly.




-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: kernel problems
Date: 9 Jan 2001 20:58:17 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 9 Jan 2001 17:23:16 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:


>>Ah, so it is you, claire.

> What are you talking about?

Lying, yet again.

>>Caught in yet another lie.  How many sockpuppets are you going to 
>>come up with this time?

> Are going to enlighten us on why VM is "sort of" an operating system
> or not?

No, what im going to do is point out that this is a conversation that
I had with your last incarnation, and that youve gotten mixed up.

Because youre an idiot.

>>You are a liar, you know nothing at all about computers, and the
>>absolute best you can do is to beg some dude to come in and write
>>your posts for you.  

> At least I have the correct answers.

No, that GUY has SOME correct answers, but not all.  Not even most.

I suspect that he is as incredibly stupid as you are, but with a slightly
larger vocabulary.

> How about your other comment that SBLive hasn't been around for years?

It hasnt.

> Another one of your ridiculous, and incorrect statements.

It isnt incorrect.

> Better check out the Creative website

I have.  Many, many times.

>>And even HE doesnt know what the fuck hes talking about.

>>Go on, enjoy your "soundblaster live" for "professional sound 
>>engineering applications".

> Never said that. You took it out of context. I have a MIDIMAN Delta,
> like I have told you a hundred times already, not that it matters
> cause you wouldn't be able to hear the difference anyway.

Actually, you didnt tell me a hundred times, claire did.  Another trap,
another catch, another lie.

Youve lost track of all your personas, claire.  Time to make a new one!

I swear you could be my cousin.  Except that my cousin is male and 
actually does live in the hamptons.  

You're equally retarded though.




=====.


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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.microsoft.sucks,alt.linux.sucks,alt.linux.slakware
Subject: Re: Global Configuration tool (WAS: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it   
does) )
Date: 9 Jan 2001 20:58:53 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy Jure Sah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: Yup. At least until it gets a Linuxal Basic that is better than Visual
: Basic.

That's already happened.


------------------------------

From: Tim Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why does Win2k always fail in running time?
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 21:04:38 GMT

"Bobby D. Bryant" wrote:
> 
> Matt Soltysiak wrote:
> 
> > I've noticed that a lot of Windows advocates/users/kids are spreading
> > enormous bullshit regarding Windows 2000's stability.
> 
> For a discussion at Linux Today, I pulled some stats from Netcraft a couple of
> days ago.  You can find the relevant posts at
> 
> http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-01-07-004-20-OP-MS-0022
> and
> http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-01-07-004-20-OP-MS-0042
> 
> For the broader discussion of Windows uptimes, the top-level thread is at
> 
> http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2001-01-07-004-20-OP-MS
> 
> Bobby Bryant
> Austin, Texas

I heard that with Win2K, Microsoft is going to start promoting its five
ones capability.

-- 
Lieberman's Law:
        Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter since nobody listens.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: kernel problems
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 21:08:39 GMT

On 9 Jan 2001 20:58:17 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:


>I swear you could be my cousin.  Except that my cousin is male and 
>actually does live in the hamptons.  

I doubt anyone associated with the likes of you has enough money to
live here.

If he really DOES live here, ask him what slang term is used by locals
to describe the yuppies that trek out here every summer.

BTW you won't be able to find this one on the net...

Good luck, liar....

>You're equally retarded though.


Gee, and I figured the family cut off the gene pool after hatching
you. 

Oh well.


Flatfish
Why do they call it a flatfish?
Remove the ++++ to reply.

------------------------------

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant.
Date: 9 Jan 2001 21:14:26 GMT

In comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 9 Jan 2001 17:25:04 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.) wrote:


>>I see that guy is writing your posts again.  Or at least, hes copying
>>directly from an old spec sheet.
>>
>>Which is more than youre capable of doing, claire.  Nice one.


> You just have a difficult time accepting that most people have a far
> better understanding of computer history than you have, mostly because
> they have lived through it and you are in all likely hood some pimple
> faced, kid wannabe who never had the opportunity to be a part of
> history. Like the PS/2 model 80/85, which is a piece of history in and
> of itself.

Ah, whats your name, little boy?  Does your mommy know youre posting for
her again?

> Would you like me to tell you about the model 70?
> Or how about the model 25?

> What made the model 25 different than the others?


> What do you need to get into Advcanced Diagnostic mode on a PS/2 and
> why did it upset many people?

Claire, I didnt have a "home computer" until my first commodore, which 
was in 1986.  The only IBM's ive ever touched start with the AS/400 and
go up from there.

Ive never been a 'computer repair person'.  I started out (I dont count
playing around with a home computer "starting out") as the administrator
of a small network of graphics workstations in my first year of college. 
(1987).  I continued in and out of the field for many years.

My home computer history does not include an IBM machine of any kind.

However, it does include 5 amigas, 2 c/64s, 1 c/128, 1 c/pet (freebie, 
who could blame me), 1 mac classic, 1 mac plus, 1 PM7200/75, 1 PM 7200/120, 
1PM 7500/100, 1 amiga 2000, 1 486dx/66, 1 ppro 200 system, and my most 
current:

PIII 666 w/384 megs ram, gforce2, sblive, UDMA/66, 80gigs hd space, 
nice abit mboard, 21" trinitron and some really shitty speakers that 
ill be replacing with jbl monitors and suitable pre/amplification next
week.

> Go ahead idiot...I'm waiting?

> If you have all of this experience you say you do you will be able to
> easily answer those questions without scouting the net for the
> answers, 

Thats not true at all.  Thats like saying that if you dont know anything
about the way edsels were built, you couldnt possibly know anything about
the way the space shuttle is built.  Your logic is flawed, and you are an
idiot.

> but that is what you will do anyway because you don't have a
> clue.

Actually, I dont do that claire, thats something that YOU do.  You're
getting us confused.  I dont cheat at challenges, and I indeed know 
almost nothing about the Ps/2 series, as I was never dumb enough to
buy one.




=====.


------------------------------

From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Who LOVES Linux again?
Date: 9 Jan 2001 21:10:28 GMT

Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Kyle Jacobs wrote:
:> 
:> Those key's only put out to a TTY console.  I was running XFree86 (and
:> actively using it) when the keyboard stopped responding.

: Liar.  The TTY input is INTERRUPT DRIVEN.  Therefore, it can't lock up.

: Repeat after me, Kyle

:       LINUX IS NOT WINDOWS!

How would you describe this situation:
Mouse pointer picture will move on the screen, but it's image never changes
as it passes over window borders like it's supposed to, and none of the
mouse clicks do anything, and it doesn't change focus (even though I have
sloppy-focus, so a click shouldn't be needed).  Okay, so I try to change
out to a console screen with ctrl-alt-F1 - nothing happens, ctrl-alt-Fn
doesn't work for any 'n', neither does just alt-Fn.  So then I try to kill
X with ctrl-alt-backspace - doesn't work.  So then I try to hit sysrq with
all possible combinations of shift/alt/ctrl - none of them work.  So then
I wander into the next room and try my old text terminal that's hooked up
to /dev/ttyS0 with a getty (that normally works), and it's not responding.
So then I try calling myself with a xringd pattern I have set up to trigger
a "telinit 1" command to go to single-user for emergencies - nothing happens.

At this point, I'd say there isn't a damn thing I can do with it, even
though clearly *something* is still running, since the mouse pointer does
move on the screen.

That's a powerswitch-reboot situation.  There's nothing else to do.

In that case it doesn't matter if the underlying OS is crashed
or not, I can't talk to it in any way shape or form.

This happens to me about once a month on Linux.  (It happens more often
on Windows, but it *does* happen on Linux too).  I'd say that counts
as being "frozen".)

It always happens when running Netscape, and always when its stuck
while bringing up a menubar pull-down menu.  I think X is grabbing
more input types than it needs to and then not releasing it.

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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: OEditors: Xedit vs. vi or emacs
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 16:25:12 -0500

Steve Mading wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> : NOTHING is intuitive....especially computers and software.
> 
> The stuff you said before the '...' contradicts the stuff after it.
> If NOTHING is intuitive, then it's not possible for something
> to be "especially" so - everything's "intutiveness" is at zero.
> It's like saying some animals are more equal than others.

Point taken...

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

------------------------------

From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Operating Systems? Where would you go next?
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 16:26:34 -0500

Steve Mading wrote:
> 
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Richard Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> : The network and the host machine isn't involved in any of those things.
> : Only when the Transmit key or selection function keys are hit is any
> : sort of signal sent outside the terminal itself because the base UTS is
> : intelligent enough to interpret the field descriptors that the host
> : painted on its screen.
> 
> That behaviour is only acceptable if you don't care about the ability
> to be interactive.

Which is why i hate working on IBM machines..

UGH.

-- 
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642


H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
    premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
    you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
    you are lazy, stupid people"

I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
   challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
   between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
   Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole

J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
   The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
   also known as old hags who've hit the wall....

A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
   method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
   direction that she doesn't like.
 
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.

D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
   ...despite (C) above.

E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
   her behavior improves.

F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
   adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.

G:  Knackos...you're a retard.

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