Linux-Advocacy Digest #648, Volume #31 Mon, 22 Jan 01 02:13:05 EST
Contents:
Re: OpenSource Question ("Adam Warner")
Re: A salutary lesson about open source ("JS PL")
Re: Newbie Journal (Michael Vester)
Re: Poor Linux ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: I just can't help it! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: A salutary lesson about open source ("Bobby D. Bryant")
Re: A salutary lesson about open source ("Bobby D. Bryant")
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Games? Who cares about games? (Donn Miller)
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: More to think about... ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Adam Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OpenSource Question
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 18:07:28 +1200
Hi Mark,
<snip>
> Instead, we would build this custom product fully intending to release it
> as OpenSource, however we would release it to the community only after
that
> product had reached a basic but significant level of functionality and,
> most importantly, when my company has been firmly established such that
> possesion of this product by competing companies would not introduce a
> significant threat to the well being of our company.
You are entitled to do so. If you are building the product upon GNU software
you will have to abide by the GNU licensing restrictions. The point where
you want to distibute the program is the point where you must make the
source available to anyone you distribute the program to.
See the GNU GPL:
http://www.gnu.org/copyleft/gpl.html
The preamble states it quite succinctly:
"For example, if you distribute copies of such a program, whether gratis or
for a fee, you must give the recipients all the rights that you have. You
must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the source code. And you
must show them these terms so they know their rights."
If you see here:
http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/apsl.html
You will see how Richard Stallman disliked the original Apple Public Source
License because you couldn't do this, and how it was incompatible with the
GPL:
Disrespect for privacy
The APSL does not allow you to make a modified version and use it for your
own private purposes, without publishing your changes.
> Would this be a bad way of doing OpenSource development, counter to the
> intentions of OpenSource?
I don't think it is open source development. It is in-house development
built upon open source software. If you later decide to distribute your
efforts then everyone will look forward to the source.
Regards,
Adam Warner
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From: "JS PL" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: A salutary lesson about open source
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:48:21 -0500
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Driver problems are not the OS's fault unless it was a driver written by
MS,
> >and even then it's MS's fault, not the OS.
>
> Driver problems are the OS's fault.
In that case I'd like my $50.00 back on my Caldera Open Linux 2.4 because it
wouldn't run a Viper v550 out of the box. Wouldn't run my modem or sound
card either. Now that you've explained that it's the fault of the OS I'd
like my money back.
> >Additionally, a program that crashes repeatedly may not be the OS's fault
at
> >all.
>
> A program that crashes repeatedly is the OSes fault.
You mean the repeated crash reports of Netscape on Linux are the fault of
the OS??
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From: Michael Vester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie Journal
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2001 22:44:54 -0700
I will be looking forward to your "log" installments. You seem
sincere.
Michael Vester
mvester@ nospam.v-wave.com
A credible Linux advocate.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Dear Fierce and Friendly Folks,
>
> After months of tinkering around with Linux I am putting it work in the
> ordinary world. I believe very strongly in in some of the values of the
> open-source community such as freely sharing knowledge, helping others,
> and feeling passionate about excellent software.
> I am not a programmer, system administrator or any other technical
> type. I work as a registered nurse and have started back to school at
> University of New Mexico to get my BSN.
> The purpose of this journal is to give back to the open source
> community the only thing that I have that might be of value. That is my
> experience using Linux and other related software in the ordinary,
> K-mart world. Hopefully, these stories may help someone else make the
> decision to try Linux.
>
> My computing needs are as follows:
>
> Compose and print a simple weekly neighborhood newsletter
> Keep accounts of my savings, checking and other assets
> Simple bookeeping for a small home-based business
> Web access to my online nursing research course
> Compose and read documents for above course (MS Office)
> General web-surfing
>
> My computing wants include:
>
> Playing a few games
> Getting my scanner working and learning GIMP (image processing)
> Setting up a simple home network
>
> My assets include:
>
> AT clone with FIC 503 board, 500 MHz AMD-K6, 128 megs ram
> Redhat 6.2 with included KDE GUI
> Word Perfect 8.0, StarOffice 5.2
> "Running Linux" by Welsh from www.oreilly.com
>
> And my most important asset of all is "Fred". Fred is my friend of over
> 14 years and he is my Linux guru. His day job is as the technical end of
> a two-person Linux division of a networking compamy here in Albuqerque.
> They put together sophisticated Linux systems, RAID arrays and other
> toys for Sandia and Los Alamos labs. My first recomendation is to go and
> find a "Fred". Your "Fred" will be invaluable beyond belief if you are
> coming from a Windows environment. You can find a "Fred" at a local
> Linux Users Group (LUG) in your area.
>
> Hopefully this journal will be published 2 or 3 times per month as time
> permits.
>
> Gene Kimzey
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Poor Linux
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:02:10 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 00:35:58 -0500, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Piss Poor planning on your part does NOT constitute an emergency on my part.
>
> Actually very good planning because the card was purchased to work
> with Windows and you know something? I can read the outside of the box
> and every single feature the card is capable of performing works fine
> under Windows and always has.
> Linux is another story however.
No...if you had done PROPER PLANNING, then you would have purchased
hardware that's supported under Linux for your Linux system.
Since you FAILED to do this, you did PISS POOR PLANNING.
GAME
SET
MATCH.... jerkoff
>
> Linux has been trying for 3 years and still can't get it right, even
> WITH the co-operation of Creative.
>
> What a sorry sight.
>
> Flatfish
> Why do they call it a flatfish?
> Remove the ++++ to reply.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I just can't help it!
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:03:17 -0500
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > You keep saying this, but I doubt that it is true. I see many people
> > > just turn off their monitors when they go home.
> >
> > They shouldn't even do that.
> >
> > when the monitor goes to power saving mode, it only consumes a couple
> > of watts...just enough to keep the tube warm so that "turning on" to
> > display again doesn't add yet another thermal-shock cycle.
>
> That's stand-by mode. There's also Sleep mode, which turns off the monitor
> almost completely (including the tube circuitry).
You're really a fucking idiot.
If you don't keep the tube circuitry on, then there's NO REASON to
keep anything on, shit-for-brains.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:08:27 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 00:39:13 -0500, Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, 20 Jan 2001 01:41:02 GMT, Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >JS PL wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> That story kind of reminds me about how my mp3 player in Linux plays exactly
> >> >> 1 mp3 per system boot. I try to make it a good choice since I get to only
> >> >> play one until I reboot though.
> >> >
> >> >You sure fucked up your configuration then.
> >> >Or you're absolutely lying. What a wienie.
> >>
> >> Even if Windows exhibited the same sort of behaivor, I would
> >> be loathe to use such an anecdote to bash it. That just sounds
> >> too bizzare to be believed.
> >
> >For a while, my LoseDOS box would only perform one scan per boot-up
>
> ...did that mean that the result of all scan's were
> system events leading to a subsequent boot up?... '-)
No..I could scan ONE photograph...and then, I would have to re-boot before
I could do another scan (althought I *could* pre-view the next photo after
the first scan....just couldn't do a 2nd scan off of the same boot up...:-(
>
> --
>
> Ease of use should be associated with things like "human engineering"
> and "use the right tool for the right job". And of course,
> "reliability", since stopping to fix a problem or starting over due
> to lost work are the very antithesis of "ease of use".
>
> Bobby Bryant - COLA
> |||
> / | \
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:09:51 -0500
"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>
> Said Bobby D. Bryant in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sun, 21 Jan 2001
> 05:41:04 -0600;
> >"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> >> For a while, my LoseDOS box would only perform one scan per boot-up
> >
> >My system only allows one shutdown per boot up.
>
> That's nothing. My only allows one boot up per shut down!
My loseDOS box averages about 3 boot-ups per shut down....
...because 2 out of every 3 boot-ups eventually crash.
>
> --
> T. Max Devlin
> *** The best way to convince another is
> to state your case moderately and
> accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:14:15 -0500
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > > I think you mean incompetent system architect for choosing NT.
> >
> >
> > Incompetent NT LoseDOS admin and incompetetant system architects who
> > choose LoseDOS products....go hand in hand.
>
> Of course, then there are idiots like you who would choose a Linux
> workstation platform as their choice when you knew what would suffer.
System Stability and no lost work is...what, exactly?
This must be a new definition of "suffer" about which I am unfamiliar.
>
> UNIX on the desktop isn't pretty.
Neither are stock cars...yet they beat the pants off normal street cars.
> If it were, Microsoft wouldn't be in business.
Microsoft Stock is down 80% in the last year. Why is that.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: A salutary lesson about open source
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:02:52 -0600
Chad Myers wrote:
> If you want to argue, then let's argue on facts and merit, not
> supposition.
OK. I'm eagerly awaiting your reply to my new thread entitled "Uptimes by
OS, for the Hot 100".
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: A salutary lesson about open source
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 00:14:50 -0600
Chad Myers wrote:
> Yes, IIS doesn't have a huge lead in the Hot 100, however, it's #2 at last
> figure
> (however the hot 100 changes with great frequency, it's entirely possible that
> IIS has retaken the lead).
Sorry, I only looked up the OS, not the Web server. As of yesterday, Solaris ran
35, Windows ran 20 (plus probably two more unknowns), and Linux ran 19. Of the
Windows systems, only 11 have upgraded to W2K a year after it was released.
Hardly a big endorsement of Windows, let alone W2K.
> I'm talking about the Fortune 500, now, which is a different argument.
Different, yes. But relevant?
> Yes, the Fortune 500 may not be the hit-leaders of the world, but they
> certainly do carry a large porition of the total number of hits out there.
How large a portion?
> What's more important is that most of these guys have invested copious
> amounts of cash into their web infrastructure,
Yes, lots of big corporations spend their money foolishly.
> and it's important to
> note that many (as part of the majority) have chosen IIS as their platform
> to run the whole thing from. Many have also chosen iPlanet. Together,
> iPlanet (aka Netscape Enterprise Server) and IIS make up the large majority
> of the Fortune 500 platform.
Ah, yes. Running iPlanet is a big endorsement of Microsoft's products too!
> Apache barely makes a showing.
Barely makes a showing? What was that percentage again?
Also, as I mentioned previously, the Fortune 500 sites have mostly been around a
while, and the IT staffs at F500 companies tend to be very conservative (I know
this from personal experience), so the F500 gives a good snapshot of what the Web
looked like five years ago. Who whould choose iPlanet today?
Bobby Bryant
Austin, Texas
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:19:32 -0500
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > > Right, but we're talking about Linux. Linux is a server OS. Through and
> > > through. So that's why we keep coming back to this point. Workstations
> be
> > > damned. you have a problem with a workstation, you don't even try to fix
> > > it. You grab the image file off the server and reimage the machine. Bam
> > > it's just like new. That's how to fix a Windows workstation.
> >
> > That's only because...with LoseDOS, you have no alternative.
> >
> > Conversely, with UNIX desktop machines, the machine is almost
> > always kept up and running ( > 98% of typical problems).
>
> Oh please. Your specialty environment is perfect for UNIX because your
> environment requires engineering software.
AND OFFICE SOFTWARE. (Clue for the clueless...Engineers write LOTS of
reports, and do LOTS of spreadsheets, etc.)
> UNIX workstations don't work in 80% of the REST OF THE WORLD.
Really? Most client-server apps are DEVELOPED on Unix first, shit-head.
> I don't even want to think about UNIX in
^^^^
> workstation capacity at a corporate situation.
What do your DESIRES have to do with anything?
> I can just see NOTHING
....that's your problem.
> getting done. No words processed, no print jobs printed because no one can
> figure out how ass backward UNIX GUI's are.
Aster*x has been out there for years.
Word Perfect has been out there for a DECADE.
Star Office.
>
> The rest of the world depends on Windows NT & 2000 for their workstation
> environments.
...to play games.
> The GOOD productivity is for Windows.
If you call crashing at 3:00 and losing all the work you've done since
lunchtime "good productivity", then you're OBVIOUSLY not speaking the
same dielect of English as the rest of us.
> The GOOD data services
> are for UNIX. Some of us understand how that works, then there is you.
Why is it that people pay me over $50/hour for such thought, but not your for yours?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Donn Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Games? Who cares about games?
Date: 22 Jan 2001 00:15:17 -0600
mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know anyone that really plays games on their computers. is that out of
> the ordinary? When people mention games as an issue, I often wonder why.
> I have a Nintendo for games, why would I waste a computer on games?
My view on games for Linux is: don't spend too much worrying about them. But
it's a good exercise in general, because the principles in creating games may
be applied to create useful software, like graphics and visualization
software. Just don't spend too much time worrying about them.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:20:37 -0500
Lewis Miller wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis was heard ranting about <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in
> alt.linux.sux on 19 Jan 2001
>
> >Lewis Miller wrote:
> >>
> >> Aaron R. Kulkis was heard ranting about <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> in alt.linux.sux on 16 Jan 2001
> >>
> >> >Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >Translation...
> >> >the $200 product [Lose9x] crashes every couple of hours
> >> >the $1000 product [LoseNT] crashes only once/week.
> >> >The $25 product [Linux] will stay up for months.
> >> ^^^
> >> $25?!?! Damn you're gettin ripped off.. last I checked Linux was
> >> free. :) I've never paid for it. Even my CD versions.
> >
> >It's nice having the manuals around, for distribution quirks/features
> >so that you can loan it to a friend with some degree of confidence that
> >they will return your linux disks within a reasonable amount of time.
>
> Manuals? Last I checked they were on the CD.
Installation guides, etc.
>
> >> Besides forget NT get 2000 if you're going to run a Windows box.
> >
> >Why would i want to do something as stupid as that?
>
> Um, because 2000 supports a hell of a lot more hardware than NT. 2000 is a
> lot more stable than NT. 2000 has more tools than NT.
Pfffffl! Tallest midget at the circus.
>
> --
> l8r
> -LJM
>
> a.k.a. Jaster Mereel
> a.k.a. MrBobaFett
>
> "Little things used to mean so much to Shelly. I used to think
> they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing's trivial. "
> -- Eric Draven, The Crow
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More to think about...
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 01:25:00 -0500
sfcybear wrote:
>
> I have spent most of my time avoiding working on IBM's bigirons....
>
> http://www.infoworld.com/articles/hn/xml/01/01/22/010122hnlinux.xml
>
> Could it be we are headed back?
As long as it's running a Linux or Unix OS, instead of a pathetic IBM
OS with commands that always generate SCREENS full of wordy blather,
I'm all for it.
I don't give a shit what kind of hardware is underneath, just as long as
it's running a sane OS... (i.e. NOT windows and NOT *typical* IBM OS)
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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