Linux-Advocacy Digest #685, Volume #31 Tue, 23 Jan 01 20:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) (Mart van deWege)
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistent. (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe ("nuxx")
Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe ("Conrad Rutherford")
Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance ("Conrad Rutherford")
Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance ("Conrad Rutherford")
Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe ("Conrad Rutherford")
Re: NT is Most Vulnerable Server Software (The Ghost In The Machine)
Legal status of Tux artwork ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Poor Linux (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: The Server Saga (J Sloan)
Re: The *BEST* advertising! (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: The *BEST* advertising! (J Sloan)
Re: Why "uptime" is important. (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant (Steve Mading)
Re: The *BEST* advertising! (J Sloan)
Re: Windows 2000 (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Windows Has Lost (The Ghost In The Machine)
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Please tell me your motherboard name if it works properly in Linux
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 00:06:22 +0000
From: Mart van deWege <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
J Sloan wrote:
> "T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>
>
>
>
>> Said Bob Hauck in alt.destroy.microsoft on Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:43:55
>
>>
>>> On Sun, 21 Jan 2001 17:23:11 GMT, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>>
>
>>>
>>>> I would expect that Linux has had automount for a number of years. Can
>
>>>> somebody confirm this?
>
>>>
>>> Yes, it has automount. Caldera, at least, sets it up out of the box.
>
>>> If that isn't to your taste, KDE includes a device icon feature that can
>
>>> be set up to mount/unmount by clicking.
>
>>
>> I'm going with RedHat 7, to start out, the Deluxe box, and I plan to try
>
>> GNOME. But thanks. ;-)
>
>
>
> It's a matter of a few lines in /etc/auto.master and /etc/auto.misc anyway.
>
>
>
> jjs
No,
Even better, GNOME has the mount applet like KDE. Really cool,
it's small (I have three mount points taking up about as much
space as a single panel icon), yet it shows very clearly what the
mount status is. Important for floppies because of linux'
asynchrous I/O handling (ie no locking up the desktop because you
happen to be saving somthing to a floppy, like on flatty's
favourite OS).
Mart
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistent.
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:13:13 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on 23 Jan 2001 16:32:47 GMT
<94kbnf$o7q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>In comp.os.linux.advocacy T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Said Kyle Jacobs in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue, 23 Jan 2001 04:35:45
>> [...]
>>>I think distributing PDF format files is an excelent idea. Even if it does
>>>max bandwidth. [...]
>
>> PDF files are generally much smaller than their Word document
>> counterpart.
>
>In this vein, guess what happens to a W2K machine when you use office2000
>to read a document you converted in staroffice from .rtf to .doc?
>
>Thats right kids, it locks up solid. Powercycle nessesary.
>
>What was it exactly that windows does well again?
Um...makes money for Microsoft? :-)
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From: "nuxx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 07:14:09 +0800
>
> So you need to get extra stuff just so you can kill apps. Yeah, really
> great. And how long has UNIX been shipping with the kill command?
>
It's on the W2k CD under support tools. Anyone who admins W2k should know
this.
nuxx
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From: "Conrad Rutherford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe
Date: 23 Jan 2001 17:28:17 -0600
"Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Jan Johanson wrote:
> >
> > While little MiG tries to impress with some brochure sites...
> >
> > MediaWave is deploying over 3,100 windows 2000 advanced servers all over
> > europe to handle multimillions of simultaneous audio and video streams.
>
> Oh, WOW!
>
> Guess what? Computer use in the WORLD is EXPANDING, so people are
> installing NEW servers. Some of them are Win2k, most are not. For these
> 3100 win2K servers installed by these people, there have probably been
> 10,000 others (or fewer of comparable power) installed else where.
"probably?" - I present facts and you come back with "probably" - whew, what
a take down!
>
> Oh, and Media Wave isn't a Brochure site.
get the players right at least eh? Obviously mediawave isn't a brochure
site - but the one mig offered is.
>
> You are a waste of space.
>
> *PLONK*
yea.. right...
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From: "Conrad Rutherford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance
Date: 23 Jan 2001 17:29:19 -0600
"mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Name just one product from Microsoft which is stellar enough to warrant a
good
> review.
Internet Security and Acceleration server
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From: "Conrad Rutherford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux 2.4 Major Advance
Date: 23 Jan 2001 17:29:49 -0600
"mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Chad Myers wrote:
> > > What product is worthy of any favorable press? Seriously, what product
could a
> > > reporter write about in mostly favorable terms?
> > >
> > > Office? No.
> > > 98? No.
> > > NT? No.
> > > 2K? No.
> > > Bob? No.
> > > Dogs? No.
> >
> > Office2K, certainly so. And it has been herralded by almost every
product
> > review outfit. I defy you to show me a product review of Office2K that
> > wasn't favorable, if not stellar.
>
> Oh, please. It crashes, is HUGE! and the annoying paper clip, not to
mention
> that it doesn't produce, by default, documents accessible by previous
version,
> and offers few, if any additional features.
Are you dense? I love it when windows wannabe's mention the paper clip.
Don't these idiots know it's optional and can be changed to something else?
And you didn't match his claim - can you actually find a negative review of
Office 2000? I bet you can't. I can find 100s for star office
> >
> > Windows 2000 is the same. It's stable,
>
> I would not call a 120 day up time stable.
If the machine has physically been only turned on for 120 days I'd call that
100 % stable. dummy.
<snip>> > and it has a huge application base, more so than
> > any other OS in its class.
>
> The ones that work, of course.
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From: "Conrad Rutherford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe
Date: 23 Jan 2001 17:32:30 -0600
"Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Ayende Rahien wrote:
> >
> > "The Ghost In The Machine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> > message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > > And they *still* can't reliably kill a process. I tried to invoke,
then
> > > kill, Notepad on a very large text file (this on NT4); it took
> > > several *minutes* to finally vanish. I doubt Win2k has improved
> > > noticeably in this regard.
> >
> > Then get kill.exe or pskill.exe
> > kill -f has yet to fail me.
> > kill -f lsass.exe has interesting results when running as admin, btw.
> > Don't try it at home.
>
> So you need to get extra stuff just so you can kill apps. Yeah, really
> great. And how long has UNIX been shipping with the kill command?
>
And you need extra stuff to have a working GUI? How long has windows had a
GUI?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: NT is Most Vulnerable Server Software
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:38:06 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, T. Max Devlin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Tue, 23 Jan 2001 05:10:03 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Said . in alt.destroy.microsoft on 23 Jan 2001 04:15:26 GMT;
>>In comp.os.linux.advocacy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>>> Maybe you need to read "TCP/IP Networking" again.
>>
>>> Your worse than Max. Please don't argue about something in which you are
>>> out of your depth.
>>
>>"you're".
>
>"your". ;-)
You're both worring unnecessarily about your grammar. :-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Legal status of Tux artwork
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:25:47 GMT
What is the legal status of the Tux (Linux penguin) artwork? Is it
public domain, GPL or some other license? The reason that I'm asking is
that I'd like to sell tee shirts incorporating Tux, and want to ensure
that it's legal before spending any money on prototypes.
Please send any private responses to domain acm (at) org, user shmuel.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Poor Linux
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:54:18 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Kyle Jacobs
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Tue, 23 Jan 2001 03:40:47 GMT
<337b6.5721$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>"Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>> If it were hump-head you were fyting, then I'd applaud!
>> But flat-head are much easier to jump over.
>
>Who? What? Did I miss something?
>
>> Beans and cornbread!
>
>?
>
>>
>> To Flatpecker! May he help me convert 10 full people
>> from Windows before his pecker falls off!
>
>I think I have some inclination to who your are refering, and to it, I say
>that this statement is extremely childish.
>
>But then what else would I expect from a child.
Can we please argue over something a little more substantive, like,
perhaps, whether Linux has better paging performance than Win2k? :-)
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Server Saga
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:56:03 GMT
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Pete Goodwin wrote:
> J Sloan wrote:
>
> > I assume you are being deliberately stupid, but I will
> > answer this for the benefit of other readers.
>
> Am I the one being deliberately stupid? You did read my original post that
> started this thread?
>
> > Considering that you destroyed the machine that we
> > were trying to help you fix, yes, you wasted our time.
>
> Yes, and I said that in my original post. So why did you waste your time
> replying?
At the time we thought we were helping you fix whatever
it was you screwed up, and get everything working. It
did not become clear until later that you were just
wasting our time, and had no intention of ever fixing
the problems, if they ever really existed.
jjs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: The *BEST* advertising!
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:59:28 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Tue, 23 Jan 2001 17:09:26 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:48:56 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie
>Ebert) wrote:
>
>
>>He's providing the Linux community with the best advertising they've
>>seen in years! People will read Flatfoosh's messages and immediately
>>read the counter responses.
>
>The best advertising for Linux is Linux itself.
You mean against Linux.
Or have you become a convert? :-) In which case, welcome!
(Side issue. Once I got past Debian's initial bootup, which was
a little tricky [although partially because it has so many options
from which to get software: floppies, hard drive, NFS, network],
and got a basic booted system, it knew about networking pretty much
from the word go and I could load things using dselect. Slick! :-) )
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Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The *BEST* advertising!
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 00:07:22 GMT
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 03:56:20 GMT, "Kyle Jacobs"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Great post Kyle and from what you have written, it is obvious that you
> have seen Linux in action.
Right on cue, the other sock puppet chimes in -
> Trying Linux is the absolute best advertisement for NOT using Linux
> there can be.
That's funny, seeing Linux in action is what got most
Linux users to dump windows. Your perceptions, as always,
are most bizzare and disconnected from reality.
> Yes trying Linux is all that it takes to spawn another Windows
> advocate, who most likely never even thought of advocating an
> operating system before.
Trying Linux is best done by bringing your system
to the local lugfest and having it set up.
> I won't even go into what happens when a Mac user tries Linux.
I know mac users who "love Linux", to quote them.
<silly flatfish rant snipped>
jjs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Why "uptime" is important.
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 00:10:04 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Tom Wilson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:40:23 GMT
<Hzab6.767$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On 22 Jan 2001 14:45:23 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce Scott TOK) wrote:
>>
>> >I only use <pre></pre> tage for stuff like author contact lists, or
>> >formulae and very simple tables, for example, these ones on fusion
>> >reaction energies:
>> >
>> > http://www.rzg.mpg.de/~bds/phys/fusion-energies.html
>>
>> Is that why your page looks like crap?
>
>It's a scientific presentation for crying out loud. It's meant to convey
>information, not titilate surfers with RealAudio, ShockWave, and other bells
>and whistles. What the hell is wrong with you?
Nothing that a good case of W3 (www.w3c.org) won't cure. :-)
>
>> >I just checked that in Lynx so it's OK.
>>
>> Oh now I see why ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Some of us prefer to load pages of that sort quickly as we're not interested
>in the aforementioned bells and whistles. Lynx is excellent for that purpose
>and is blindingly fast...even on slow connections.
It also allows one to actually *read* the text. (Gosh, what
a concept!) Granted, there are some issues, such as viewing
pictures (usually, this is handled via an external pic viewer).
And I'm not sure how well it handles math expressions -- in fact,
I'm not sure any browser currently out there handles math
expressions more complicated than x<sub>j</sub><sup>2</sup>
very well.... :-)
>
>--
>Tom Wilson
>Sunbelt Software Solutions
>
>
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant
Date: 24 Jan 2001 00:01:46 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: In article <94knip$13e0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> Kyle Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>
:> : Do you see America driving down the highway in a stock car? They
: don't BUY
:> : stock cars. They buy gas guzzeling monster SUV's because of one,
: simple
:> : factor; They like how they LOOK. But most importantly, they love
: how they
:> : look in them.
:>
:> Bull. I got an SUV becuase I wanted the high ground clearance for
:> snowy weather.
: As a colorado native, I can say with certainty that SUV's are about the
: worst cold weather cars to own BECAUSE they have high ground clearance
: and a high center of gravity and in part because most of the people who
: own them *THINK* they are great cars to drive in the snow and drive at
: the same speed in the snow as they do in good weather. ( this may not
: be true in wisconsin where I understand that there is a reasonably low
: ratio of californian and texan drivers in proportion to the total
: population )
The psychology of the drivers is irrelevant to the question of
how inherently safe the vehicle is. It's not my fault that others
drive SUV's badly, thinking them better than they are, and it has
no bering on how safe the car is for ME.
The point is that with a lower ground clearance, it is irrelevant
how good your traction might be if your bottom starts touching
the snow with only a few inches of cover on the ground. If the
bottom rests on the snow, the weight isn't on the wheels and you
lose friction. This is the problem I had in my previous car and
it's what prompted me to get the Jeep Cherokee I currently own.
Had I been shopping today for a car I'd consider the Subaru Outback
because it has the same large tires and good ground clearance, but
without the tall topheavy body. But that wasn't an option back
when I got this car.
Top-heaviness, while a problem of SUV's, is actually somewhat
*more* of a problem in dry weather than in slippery weather. If
there is less friction between the tires and the road, then
instead of a roll you might just slide sideways. (Consider,
a block of wood being shoved sideways on a rubber mat will
tend to roll more than a block of wood being shoved sideways on
ice.)
For winter driving, the ability to impart forward power (4wheel
drive) can be used to help turn the vehicle as well as make it
accellerate, and that's what is really important. (If you can
keep all 4 wheels "pulling", you can navigate a turn that
would otherwise be too tight, even if you have to go so far
as to fishtail and turn "asteroids" style (aim the butt of the
car to the outside of the turn and accellerate, then fishtail the
opposite direction at the end to straighten out.) Of course,
I'm not adovcating doing that on PURPOSE to make tight turns,
just that it works as an emergency measure if you have no other
choice. All an SUV gives you is extra forward accelleration,
and ground clearance. In every other way it's just as bad
as any other car in the snow. But the experienced winter
driver knows how to take that extra available delta-V, and
make use of it when necessary, even if they don't think of it
in those terms. The problem is that inexperienced winter
drivers don't realize this and assume the SUV magically grants
them the ability to maneuver without obeying the laws of physics.
I would hazard a guess that the majority of SUV-"caused" accidents
like the type you are thinking of are psychology-induced rather
than being because of a physical problem with the SUV's.
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Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The *BEST* advertising!
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 00:10:59 GMT
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The best advertising for Linux is Linux itself.
and Linux is "microsoft's biggest threat"?
It's pretty clear that flatfish is beside himself because Linux
is threatening windows - why this should bother anyboy is not clear,
unless they own ms stock, or getting paid to poison usenet forums.
Of course, flatfish could simply be one sick puppy.
jjs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: Windows 2000
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 00:15:46 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, T. Max Devlin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:52:21 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Said Ed Allen in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue, 23 Jan 2001 06:00:40
[snip]
>> [Microsoft's] clever hacks do not cross over to other platforms
>> well. I suspect that is why it took them ten years to go from
>> 16 to 32 bits and why Linux which does things simply and
>> logically outperforms both WinDOS and NT.
>>
>> This may also explain why they have been unable to merge WinDOS and
>> NT after so many years of claiming that they are trying.
>
>Also, why the 64 bit Windows is far behind schedule, being beaten to
>Itanium by every other OS on the planet, just about.
Including -- gasp -- Linux?
Oh the horror!
Now Microsoft won't be able to say it was the first operating system
to support the newest Intel hardware!
Gosh I feel sorry for them.
Not.
:-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Subject: Re: Windows Has Lost
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 00:19:15 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Charlie Ebert
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Tue, 23 Jan 2001 02:13:48 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Craig Kelley wrote:
>>Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snip]
>>> But will Linux on the PC gain that market or will it just shift towards
>>> devices instead of PC's?
>>
>>They only way they'll be able to keep linux outside will be through
>>DMCA/legal challenges.
>>
>>--
>>The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
>>Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
>
>
>I like the title "X box".
As long as it's spelled "Ex-box". :-) (Doesn't that remind one
of a laxative formulation? Seems oddly appropriate...)
[snip]
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant.
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:30:41 -0500
Martin Eden wrote:
>
> Charlie Ebert wrote:
> > Debian is BSD based
>
> Where on earth did you come up with that?
>
> BSD is a family of Operating Systems which does not include Debian. I am
> sure all the people who have worked so hard to develop Debian from
> scratch will enjoy hearing that their product is a knockoff of something
> else.
>
> It's not "based on" BSD any more than Solaris is "based on" BSD.
Actually....
Solaris is a descendant of SunOS, which is a direct descentant of BSD.
Bill Joy was in charge of BSD until he graduated and founded Sun.
SunOS 1.0 was basically 4.3BSD ported to M68010.
On the other hand...Debian has NOTHING to do with BSD.
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H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 19:35:02 -0500
Lewis Miller wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis was heard ranting about <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in
> alt.linux.sux on 22 Jan 2001
>
> >Lewis Miller wrote:
> >>
> >> Aaron R. Kulkis was heard ranting about <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> in alt.linux.sux on 19 Jan 2001
> >>
> >> >Lewis Miller wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Aaron R. Kulkis was heard ranting about
> >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> in alt.linux.sux on 16 Jan 2001
> >> >>
> >> >> >Kyle Jacobs wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> Besides forget NT get 2000 if you're going to run a Windows box.
> >> >
> >> >Why would i want to do something as stupid as that?
> >>
> >> Um, because 2000 supports a hell of a lot more hardware than NT. 2000
> >> is a lot more stable than NT. 2000 has more tools than NT.
> >
> >Pfffffl! Tallest midget at the circus.
>
> Then the question is not why use 2000 over NT, but why use windows. Duh
> for a workstation.
^^^^^
You misspelled "crashstation"
> Windoze makes for a pretty disposable easily replaceable
> box.
Why would you want to treat perfectly good equipment as "disposable" ????
> That's what a workstation is all about. The server does all the real
> work.
Reaaaaaally. So, like, when a designer at GM is sitting at his workstation
using UniGraphics or SDRC I-DEAS, the workstation is merely a front-end
for the server???
Not even close...dipshit.
>
> --
> l8r
> -LJM
>
> a.k.a. Jaster Mereel
> a.k.a. MrBobaFett
>
> "Little things used to mean so much to Shelly. I used to think
> they were kind of trivial. Believe me, nothing's trivial. "
> -- Eric Draven, The Crow
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: Please tell me your motherboard name if it works properly in Linux
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 00:41:25 +0000
Jerry Wong wrote:
>
> I want to gather information on the compatibility of Motherboards on
> Linux.
I don't recall the actual name but it has a VIA chipset, socket 7, and
is about 2.5 years old
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