Linux-Advocacy Digest #704, Volume #31 Wed, 24 Jan 01 15:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe (The Ghost In The Machine)
Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up? (jtnews)
Re: So much for Linux being more Difficult than Windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up? ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: M$ websites down again ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: A salutary lesson about open source ("Chad Myers")
Re: Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up? (jtnews)
Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe ("Chad Myers")
Re: Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: M$ websites down again ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe ("Chad Myers")
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why "uptime" is important. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe ("Conrad Rutherford")
Re: Games? Who cares about games? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: New Microsoft Ad :-) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:12:28 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Mig
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
on Tue, 23 Jan 2001 23:58:22 +0100
<94l2ib$t3j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>Conrad Rutherford wrote:
>> > Sour grapes from a Lemming.
>> >
>> > ...how pathetic.
>>
>> realvideo? ahahahaaa
>
>This is your best post so far. Why do you even bother when you dont have
>anything to contributte?
No, he's correct; Microsoft's video format is in fact superior
in video quality and in compression, as I understand it.
It's not portable beyond Microsoft, unfortunately.
>
>
>--
>Cheers
--
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here
EAC code #191 1d:22h:43m actually running Linux.
Linux. The choice of a GNU generation.
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:14:51 -0500
From: jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up?
Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up?
Maybe they should start using Linux! :-)
Hee hee hee! :-)
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-4583218.html?tag=st.ne.1002.unkn&tag=unkn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: So much for Linux being more Difficult than Windows
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:29:12 GMT
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 03:21:44 -0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
>
> ...wait for Win2K to dial the phone and waste quite a bit
> of time fetching the local "approved" ISP list for your
> area.
>
> Then go to step D.
Huhh?
What are you talking about?
Do you make this stuff up as you go along?
Flatfish
Why do they call it a flatfish?
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up?
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:42:48 -0600
Too bad CNET doesn't understand the difference between a DNS failure and a
server being down.
"jtnews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up?
> Maybe they should start using Linux! :-)
> Hee hee hee! :-)
>
>
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-4583218.html?tag=st.ne.1002.unkn&tag=un
kn
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: M$ websites down again
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:45:49 -0600
Did you read the article? It clearly states that the web servers are not
down, and gives you a link to them in IP format.
"Milton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/16321.html
>
> Gee, all the winvocates keep telling me how robust NTW2K is!
> --
> ���������������������������������������������������
> Milton B. Hewitt
> CAUCE Member - http://www.cauce.org
> Proud supporter of the Microsoft Boycott Campaign
> http://www.vcnet.com/bms/
> ���������������������������������������������������
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Reply-To: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: A salutary lesson about open source
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:24:27 GMT
"Salvador Peralta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Chad Myers wrote:
>
> > If you really would've looked, which I know is a stretch for you,
> > you would've seen that that site keeps statistics for several hundred
> > other sites. I realize that this may not be a scientific sample, but
> > it's at least in the ball park +/- 5% I would say. So, giving Linux
> > the benefit of the doubt, Linux is still 5%, so what?
>
> Exactly. So what? Windows has been shipping installed on pc's in
> stores for as long as it has been available as a product, and we already
> know that Linux is ususally bought and installed as a server OS.
I don't get you guys some time.
We argue and argue
Chad: X is Y!
Penguinista: You're an idiot! X is Z!
Chad: No X is Y!
Penguinista: Of course X is Y, but R is S! So HAH!
Chad: <sigh>
Can't you guys follow a thread for more than 1 post?
People on your side have been claiming that Linux is taking over
the Desktop market and that MS should be scared, which, as you know,
is a big pile of BS. You just reiterated my statement, for the most
part.
-Chad
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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:42:35 -0500
From: jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up?
Doesn't Microsoft have their own DNS server?
You'd think they have redundant DNS servers!
I have my own DNS server and I never have
any problems!
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> Too bad CNET doesn't understand the difference between a DNS failure and a
> server being down.
>
> "jtnews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up?
> > Maybe they should start using Linux! :-)
> > Hee hee hee! :-)
> >
> >
> http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-4583218.html?tag=st.ne.1002.unkn&tag=un
> kn
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Reply-To: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:27:44 GMT
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:40:19 GMT, Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 06:20:40 +0200, Ayende Rahien <Please@don't.spam>
wrote:
> >> >
> >> >"Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> >> Jan Johanson wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > While little MiG tries to impress with some brochure sites...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > MediaWave is deploying over 3,100 windows 2000 advanced servers all
over
> >> >> > europe to handle multimillions of simultaneous audio and video
streams.
> >> >>
> >> >> And your point is?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Talk about demanding! Is there even a streaming server available for
> >> >linux?
> >> >>
> >> >> Unix would do the same capacity with 300 servers.
> >> >
> >> >Prove it.
> >>
> >> Unix supports considerably larger hardware than NT does.
> >>
> >> It has to do severe shared nothing clustering to achieve
> >> database thruput in the same league with single machines
> >> AS/400 or Unix machines.
> >>
> >> As the machines that run DOS have scaled up, so have the
> >> machines that everyone thought DOS had obsoleted.
> >
> >Well, Win2K Datacenter could do it in 300 or less servers with
> >a 32-way Compaq, NEC, or Unisys, but you would significantly
> >increase your costs.
> >
> >Those 3100 servers would cost a fraction of the Unix or
> >Win2K DC servers.
>
> No they wouldn't. A serious PC based server doesn't
> cost any less than more powerful RISC based hardware.
> Unix servers have been price competitive for quite
> some time.
Please show me one that's cost competitive with a
Compaq Proliant or a Dell Poweredge.
>Also, remember, one of the points of the main servers was
> >not concern of load, but regional traffic. I guess Europe
> >doesn't have as good a network infrastructure, so rather
>
> IOW, you're going to be spreading windows boxes
> to the four winds. You can have that pager
> thankyouvery much.
Do you know of a better way, given Europe's wiring situation?
>than putting servers all in one place (which would've
> >taken significantly less), they had to place them all
> >over Europe to get better regional performance.
> >
> >Those 300 Unix servers wouldn't do very well in this
> >scenario, unless you could split them in a few pieces.
>
> Why not? Do you really think they are spreading
> them across more than 300 locations?
Who knows. For some reason, they decided they would buy 3100
servers, which would serve way more than the internet-fairing
population of Europe, so the only answer I can see is that
they needed to spread them out to account for Europe's
wiring situation.
-Chad
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:43:36 GMT
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:42:48 -0600, "Erik Funkenbusch"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Too bad CNET doesn't understand the difference between a DNS failure and a
>server being down.
It wouldn't matter to the Penguinista's anyhow.
Have you ever tried looking at the CNET web site using Netscape under
Linsux?
The text is either way too small or way too large depending on how you
set the fonts in NutScrape.
Maybe that's why they have all those editors for Linsux, so they can
copy the text into their editor, massage it a little so they can read
it?
Flatfish
Why do they call it a flatfish?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: M$ websites down again
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:44:15 GMT
On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 13:45:49 -0600, "Erik Funkenbusch"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Did you read the article? It clearly states that the web servers are not
>down, and gives you a link to them in IP format.
Probably not.
See my previous post :)
Flatfish
Why do they call it a flatfish?
Remove the ++++ to reply.
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Reply-To: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 19:29:21 GMT
"Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > "Steve Mading" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:94kpnb$13e0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > : Not only would they have less performance, less reliability, and
> > > : less remote management capability (Win2K terminal services rocks),
> > >
> > > Anyone who thinks Windows has better remotability than UNIX is
> > > either ignorant or lying.
> >
> > Have you seen Windows terminal services?
> >
> > Didn't think so. You would agree with me if you had.
>
> I have.
>
> Don't use them over a high-latency line.
Hmm, I've done it before, it isn't too bad. Perhaps you're
thinking of PCAnywhere or RemotelyPossible (aka ConnectIT)
WTS is pretty good over slow and highly latent connections.
Telnetting over highly latent connections isn't a ball either.
-Chad
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistant
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:43:27 -0500
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> > If you call crashing at 3:00 and losing all the work you've done since
> > lunchtime "good productivity", then you're OBVIOUSLY not speaking the
> > same dielect of English as the rest of us.
>
> Then why are you using Windows 98 to post your reply?
I recompiled Netscape to disguise what platform I'm *actually* using.
Security through obfuscation.
>
> --
> Pete, running KDE2 on Linux Mandrake 7.2
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why "uptime" is important.
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:45:45 -0500
Mark Styles wrote:
>
> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 04:09:15 -0500, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Mark Styles wrote:
> >>
> >> On Wed, 24 Jan 2001 01:51:22 -0000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] () wrote:
> >> [big snip]
> >> > I'm also curious what exactly you do to make Applix crash.
> >>
> >> Converting MS Office files (excel spreadsheets) into Applix format,
> >> failed every time, sometimes dumping core, sometimes just sitting
> >> there doing nothing.
> >
> >Liar.
> >
> >By definition, Converting files is NOT "doing nothing"
>
> You don't seem to have very much constructive to say.
>
> Converting files means taking a file of one format and putting it into
> another format. Applix failed to do that. Applix was not clocking up
> CPU time. The Applix conversion screen told me it was 'Converting
> file', but didn't do anything. By any sane person's definition, that
> is 'doing nothing'.
In otherwords, it was supposed to be ENGAGED IN THE ***WORK*** of
format conversion.
Question: Did you send a bug report to Applix, or are you merely making
up nonsense for the purpose of making pointless arguments here
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Conrad Rutherford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe
Date: 24 Jan 2001 13:54:09 -0600
"Ayende Rahien" <Please@don't.spam> wrote in message
news:94n73g$5oe$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Conrad Rutherford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:3a6ec814$0$45740$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "Ayende Rahien" <Please@don't.spam> wrote in message
> > news:94lg5j$rm0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > "nuxx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:Vfqb6.5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > >
> > > > > Ehhh, actually that's not quite true when you say that Terminal
> > Services
> > > > > are slow, the protocol (RDP (I know nothing about ICA)) actually
> uses
> > > less
> > > > > bandwidth then X, especially trafic from the client to the
> > > > > TerminalServer is kept to the minimum. The result is that TS is
> faster
> > > > > than X on slow connections, on a 10+ Mbps network X feels much
> faster
> > > > > than TS. Ofcource telnet/ssh requires even less overhead if it was
> > > > > possible to do anything on NT in a CLI.
> > > > >
> > > > You can do most admin tasks in a Telnet session to a W2k server.
Use
> > the
> > > > supplied support tools, W2k server resource kit utilities and WSH
> > (Windows
> > > > 2000 Server Resource Kit should be required reading for any serious
> W2k
> > > > administrator). WTS or VNC and the RPC utilities do the job for the
> few
> > > > things you can't do from the CLI. I _very_ rarely touch any of my
> > > servers,
> > > > some are a long distance away :-)
> > > >
> > > > I'm not trying to argue that W2k is as good as Unix for remote admin
> > from
> > > > the CLI, because it isn't by a fair distance. MS have recognised
this
> > as
> > > a
> > > > serious weakness (finally) and are working towards fixing it. I
> believe
> > > > that you will be able to unload the GUI in Whistler(?) so they are
> > > hopefully
> > > > improving the CLI.
> > >
> > > How?
> > > Now this is something that I would like to know how it can be done.
> > > I've Whistler beta 1, pro. How do I unload the GUI?
> > > How much overhead does this remove? (Now this is interesting
question.)
> >
> > IT's a server only option called "Headless Server" - it boots the server
> up
> > without the GUI and you manage through Telnet and HTTP.
>
> I'll be getting the server version soon, I'll be sure to check it out.
> Any improvement with CLI?
>
Yes, they've added CLI commands for pretty much every configuration option
you can name.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Games? Who cares about games?
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:52:52 -0500
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> > I thought about that...that's why I specify NAMED PIPES appearing in
> > the filesystem....each process has just ONE "input" pipe...any process
> > sending a message to it starts with a preamble.
> >
> > a) identity of calling process
> > b) number of bytes of data in (C)
> > c) "message" plus ctrl-W (ETB = End Transmission Block)
> >
> > As long as (a) + (b) + (c) are all put into one write(2) call, then
> > there shouldn't be any problems with collisions, as any write(2) to
> > an fd is supposed to be completed before anothere write(2) to the same fd.
>
> That could work, although You'd have to do a lot of opening and closing
> of pipes all the time, which is slow.
No big deal...it will never hit the disk, and the whole system should be
bottlenecked by user input, not CPU-bound.
> I still think that for an
> essentially message based system, message passing would be more
> workable.
Tons and tons and tons of shared memory buffers for message-passing.
Geometric growth of storage space.
UGH!
I want something that scales linearly, not geometrically.
This way, a system can be tested with, say, a 20 piece game,
and then a 1,000 piece game can CONFIDENTLY be implemented
by merely writing the data files for all of the units.
>
> -Ed
>
> --
> Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
> weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
> - The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
> |eng.ox.ac.uk
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:53:18 -0500
Jan Johanson wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > Lose98 can NOT stay up 216 hours continously, especially not IN USE 24x7.
>
> Four of our NT4 boxes are running SQL server 7 and run continuously 24x7 and
> sometimes running near 90-100% for days on end. We replaced a hotswap hard
> drive during that time - THAT is how reliable we've found NT4 to be. How
> long? Nearly 8 months now - since these are not public facing servers we do
> not need to apply security patches so we have no planned reboots. We haven't
> upgraded these four boxes because they have been running non-stop for 8
> months now (and the reason for that reboot was updating SCSI BIOS and
> drivers).
>
> Our two W2K boxes that have never been rebooted since Feb 20th and, although
> I'm sure it's coincidence, not even had a hard drive pop yet. We haven't
> applied SP1 or security patches cause these are internal servers.
>
> Our three external facing W2K boxes we reboot when a security patch requires
> it so looking at their "uptime" report in netcraft would make them appear
> unreliable when in fact they stay up without fail. Period. Our solaris box
> we've retired and I can say not soon enough, we were tired of it crashing
> all the time.
Liar.
> The only copies of linux in this shop are those tucked safely
> away in VMWare virtual machines and most definately not attached to the net.
> Thankfully when linux pukes we can just recycle the virtual machine.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: New Microsoft Ad :-)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 14:54:19 -0500
Shane Phelps wrote:
>
> Jan Johanson wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > Lose98 can NOT stay up 216 hours continously, especially not IN USE 24x7.
> >
> > Four of our NT4 boxes are running SQL server 7 and run continuously 24x7 and
> > sometimes running near 90-100% for days on end. We replaced a hotswap hard
> > drive during that time - THAT is how reliable we've found NT4 to be. How
> > long? Nearly 8 months now - since these are not public facing servers we do
> > not need to apply security patches so we have no planned reboots. We haven't
> > upgraded these four boxes because they have been running non-stop for 8
> > months now (and the reason for that reboot was updating SCSI BIOS and
> > drivers).
> >
>
> Congratulations. You're reporting *far* better NT stability than the figures
> Microsoft is now using in it's advertising
>
> > Our two W2K boxes that have never been rebooted since Feb 20th and, although
> > I'm sure it's coincidence, not even had a hard drive pop yet. We haven't
> > applied SP1 or security patches cause these are internal servers.
> >
>
> ... and much better figures for W2K as well (though not proportionately
> as good
> as your NT 4 figures)
>
> > Our three external facing W2K boxes we reboot when a security patch requires
> > it so looking at their "uptime" report in netcraft would make them appear
> > unreliable when in fact they stay up without fail. Period. Our solaris box
> > we've retired and I can say not soon enough, we were tired of it crashing
> > all the time. The only copies of linux in this shop are those tucked safely
> > away in VMWare virtual machines and most definately not attached to the net.
> > Thankfully when linux pukes we can just recycle the virtual machine.
>
> .. so what are you doing right with NT and wrong with Solaris?
Well, it doesn't say to NOT dump a pot of coffee on the Sun server every morning....
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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