Linux-Advocacy Digest #711, Volume #31 Wed, 24 Jan 01 19:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Poor Linux (Steve Mading)
Re: Comparison: Installing W2K and Linux 2.4 (J Sloan)
Re: Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux is crude and inconsistent. (.)
Re: Comparison: Installing W2K and Linux 2.4 (Daniel Tryba)
Re: Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up? ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it does) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: The *BEST* advertising! (Steve Mading)
Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe (Steve Mading)
Re: Uptimes by OS, for the Hot 100. ("Bobby D. Bryant")
Re: Poor Linux ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: The *BEST* advertising! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Poor Linux
Date: 24 Jan 2001 23:07:17 GMT
Kyle Jacobs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Linux does not have the ability to auto-reneice applications based upon
: activity.
Yes it does, but it doesn't because it's a really bad idea. The window
managers *could* be written to do that very easily. But just because
something interactive is going on does not imply that it is the highest
priority. You could be doing a computationally intensive process
in the background that you consider MORE IMPORTANT than the web browsing
you are doing while you pass the idle time - for example. The UNIX
scheduling technique simply gives more time to the programs that
are actually using the CPU more, and less time to the ones that are
just sitting around waiting for a user input interrupt. Xterm, for
example, doesn't need much CPU time to keep up with my typing, so I
would not want it to be automatically reniced to suck CPU time away
from other programs.
: My GIMP process tree doesn't get priority level neicing when
: doing a complicated math operation while the rest of XFree86 sits idle.
It doesn't need to. Programs that do nothing but math for a while
automatically get more CPU attention because of that fact alone.
: It
: gets what it was started at (0) and shares resources with all my other
: programs running at the time.
: So rather than shooting your mouth off about a technology you clearly know
: nothing about (Windows), I suggest you avoid from future embarrassment.
--
-- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
Steven L. Mading at BioMagResBank (BMRB). UW-Madison
Programmer/Analyst/(acting SysAdmin) mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
B1108C, Biochem Addition / 433 Babcock Dr / Madison, WI 53706-1544
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Comparison: Installing W2K and Linux 2.4
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 23:10:23 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Ain't it the truth!
>
> I just printed this out to take to my Windows user group meeting
> tonight. I hope you don't mind?
>
> They are going to howl when they see this :)
Yes, they will howl, unless they have some intelligence,
at which point they will realize that it's all bogus.
jjs
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up?
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:09:16 -0500
"." wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Yes, they do. But it seems that someone is DoSing all their DNS servers, or
> > spoofing them, or something. This has always been a severe weakness of the
> > internet, and has accounted for many problems. I remember a while back
> > someone hijacked Network Solutions DNS and was rerouting people to his own
> > site that were trying to go to NSI.
>
> I see you know all about the problem.
>
> Actually, they have many DNS servers, but in true microsoft style, they
> are all physically located in the same place and are on ONE switched
> segment.
>
> Ahem. Thats *really* stupid.
Well, that's what happens when you put MCSE's in charge of things.
>
> -----.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up?
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:10:30 -0500
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> Too bad CNET doesn't understand the difference between a DNS failure and a
> server being down.
Too bad Erik Funkenbush doesn't realize that Domain Name SERVICES are
provided by Domain Name SERVERS.
>
> "jtnews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up?
> > Maybe they should start using Linux! :-)
> > Hee hee hee! :-)
> >
> >
> http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-4583218.html?tag=st.ne.1002.unkn&tag=un
> kn
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux is crude and inconsistent.
Date: 24 Jan 2001 23:11:59 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Said . in comp.os.linux.advocacy on 24 Jan 2001 05:23:10 GMT;
>>In comp.os.linux.advocacy Ayende Rahien <Please@don't.spam> wrote:
>>
>>> Doesn't matter.
>>> Word will open the document, I'm not sure how it does it, but it doesn't do
>>> it by the extention.
>>
>>Actually, it does in some cases.
>>
>>> If you try to open an RTF document with doc extention in word, it will open
>>> it just right.
>>> Try & you'll see.
>>
>>I understand this.
>>
>>> The reason for this is that extention is quite easily changable.
>>> That is why most programs relies on file contents to identify the data
>>> format the document is stored as (document mean here anything that is inside
>>> a file).
>>
>>Changing the extension of a natural .doc file will not change its format or
>>encoding.
>>
>>By your logic, you could change an .mp3 to a .rm and be able to see a movie.
> Not entirely. Ayende is somewhat correct (it doesn't work in all
> situations) that if you change the extension to .doc, that will be
> enough to get Windows to launch Word when you 'open' the file from the
> desktop.
Yes, but I was very clear in saying that I opened up the document from *inside*
word. I know better than to just double click on questionable documents.
> Once Word is opening the file, it will identify the format
> and, hopefully, convert it or suggest a converter. Changing the
> extension does not change the file format, you are correct, but its
> enough to get Word to launch, which is the goal.
Not in my case, word was already running. And I found the error: there were six
control characters at the beginning of the first line that is particular to
staroffice saving a document as W6.0 (possibly under solaris, I havent confirmed
that yet) that makes word flip out, and locks up the entire operating system.
=====.
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From: Daniel Tryba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Comparison: Installing W2K and Linux 2.4
Date: 24 Jan 2001 23:11:02 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Conrad Rutherford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> W2K:
> Insert CD into a CD ROM and turn on computer. It boots and begins to
> install. Enter your CD key, name and answer a few default prompts and
> shortly thereafter you have the a very massively feature packed OS with a
> familiar GUI up and running with all your hardware ready to rock.
^^^^^^^^^^^^ Only if you are used to Windows.
> HTTP, FTP,
> Media Server, Journaling file system, DirectX hardware acceleration of every
> device, OpenGL running at the right refresh for that autodetected monitor
> and video card and the list goes on.
Nope, my Matrox G400 was not supported, needed to install drivers, Linux
supports it natively (framebuffer).
> Browser ready, wordpad ready,
> mediaplayer supporting pretty much every format (and others are a codec
> autodownload away), graphics editor and viewers, handicapped accessiblity,
> communications programs, telnet, ftp, massive network support - the list
> just goes on and you can just sit back and watch it load.
Nope had to replace my 3Com595TX with another networkcard (btw
manufactured somewhere in '95). Hercules (third head to my machine (the
G400 is dualheaded)) doesn't work either, and it is still usefull for
debugging and logging stuff.
BTW what I had to do to make 2000 run is a horror also:
I have an Asus P2B-DS with 2 processors, after installing Windows I
noticed that 50% (one whole processor) is busy doing kernelstuff
(according to taskmanager), the system feels sluggish and response is
terrible. So I try to find out why it behaves this way. Hey, I have no
network...... hmmmm my 3com is not supported..... 10minutes later I find
an ancient dec 21040 that appears to work. After some searching I
stumble across a page at Asus where they mention that the P2B-DS is
broken when used with Windows 2000 and ACPI. But I disabled
powermanagement in the bios......... Hmmmm so I have to make a search at
MS how to disable ACPI on an already installed machine, can't find
anything about this, only how not to install ACPI during initial
install. So I start searching the registry and delete some keys
mentioning ACPI -> reboot and the system will not start again.
No problem since I had to reinstall anyway.... Hmmm forgot to make and
edit one of the _4_ bootfloppys and you can only create them on an
dos/windows system..... So I have to find a system running one of them
and edit the file so it doesn't install ACPI again. So about 1.5 hours
after the initial install I finally have 4 floppies (finding them took
some time since 2 out of 3 floppies I can find have badsectors) and can
try again......
BTW upgrading a linux system to 2.4 only takes about 5 minutes to
download the source, 5 minutes to config the kernel and about 7 to
rebuild and 1 minute to reboot. Maybe that's because I'm more familiar
with Linux then Windows, so I might not be impartial.....
BTW the other way to fix the motherboard problem would be to resolder
C94 to position C95 :( Linux also has the same problem with ACPI and
this mb but at least one can enable/disable it after install.
--
Daniel Tryba
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up?
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:11:12 -0500
jtnews wrote:
>
> Doesn't Microsoft have their own DNS server?
> You'd think they have redundant DNS servers!
> I have my own DNS server and I never have
> any problems!
They put them ALL on the same ethernet segment.
This is what happens when you let an MCSE make an important decision.
>
> Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> >
> > Too bad CNET doesn't understand the difference between a DNS failure and a
> > server being down.
> >
> > "jtnews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Why can't Microsoft keep their web servers up?
> > > Maybe they should start using Linux! :-)
> > > Hee hee hee! :-)
> > >
> > >
> > http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-4583218.html?tag=st.ne.1002.unkn&tag=un
> > kn
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:15:23 -0500
Peter K�hlmann wrote:
>
> Chad Myers wrote:
> >
> > Do you know of a better way, given Europe's wiring situation?
> >
> As usual, Chad doesn't know what he's talking about.
> The "wiring situation" as Chad put's it so masterly after bringing it up
> as a guess before (had to unkillfile this jerk to do that) is, to put it
> mildly, slightly better than in the states (except perhaps some very high
> speed interconnects). Germany for example is COMPLETELY on
> digital phone lines (even those who do not have ISDN at home are
> digitized shortly afterwards). DSL is very big already, I have my DSL
> connection nearly a year already after 5 years of ISDN. Same is true for
> several other countries in europe. Chad should at least TRY to get his
> facts straight before making such sweeping statements. His 3100
> Wintendo2000 servers are at best stationed at 200 - 300 sites,
> probably less, if the remote capabilities of Wintendo(tm) are taken into
> account. No one in his right mind would station such servers more than
> 20 meters away from a squadron of MCSE's to keep them running.
Nah, that would be WAAAAAAAAAAY too expensive (several HUNDRED offices)
No...they probably have only a couple of sites/country, with a few
hundred Lose2000 boxes stuck in one room, barely doing the work of
one good Sun E10k box.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux does NOT suck (oh yes it does)
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:16:33 -0500
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
>
> Oh yes, replacing /etc with a virtually linked, remote file source. This is
> a terrible idea unless every workstation is running the EXACT same version
> of the EXACT same Linux on the EXACT same hardware with the EXACT same
> revisions of every component in perpetuity.
>
> That's uniformity to the extreme.
>
> With policy, restrictions can be set independent of what hardware, version
> of components, OR revision of Windows is being used. Policy is still
> policy, unrecognized policy is ignored.
You really don't have the slightest clue of how NIS works, do you, shithead.
>
> "Mario Lang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "Kyle Jacobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > Under Linux, the /etc directory makes centralized administration
> > > IMPOSSIBLE.
> > You just dont get the concept. With the principle of all your
> configuration
> > files in a single directory structure, you can even administer
> > hundreds of workstations centralized (e.g. diskless clients).
> > When you show me how to setup Windows 98 or ME or even NT in a way that
> > all required datafiles are on one powerful server and all
> > workstation dont even have a disk-drive, I
> > will believe that MS has a superior system design.
> >
> > > Editing that "line of text" is, like every administrative action, not as
> > > simple as it sounds.
> > For people dumb enough to rely on GUIs.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Mario Lang
> >
> > Technical University Graz mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Department Computing Services http://www.ZID.TUGraz.at/lang/
> > Phone: +43 (0) 316 / 873 - 8508 ICQ: 69372257
> >
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: The *BEST* advertising!
Date: 24 Jan 2001 23:10:12 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy ono <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> It's pretty clear that flatfish is beside himself because Linux
:> is threatening windows - why this should bother anyboy is not clear,
:> unless they own ms stock, or getting paid to poison usenet forums.
: It bothers me because there are always 'managers' asking us why we build
: industrial robots using w2k instead of linux. Of course they heard that
: linux is free and stable where w2k is too expensive and unreliable.
: We mostly respond that it is theoretically possible but if they want to find
: out, they have to hire new programmers.
Why, are you incapable of learning something a bit different? Despite
the BS buzzword-complaince attitude of Human Resources departments,
a good programmer can switch to a new OS without too much trouble.
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From: Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: 3100 W2K Adv Servers deployed accross Europe
Date: 24 Jan 2001 23:13:20 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Steve Mading" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
: news:94kpnb$13e0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
:> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:>
:> : Not only would they have less performance, less reliability, and
:> : less remote management capability (Win2K terminal services rocks),
:>
:> Anyone who thinks Windows has better remotability than UNIX is
:> either ignorant or lying.
: Have you seen Windows terminal services?
: Didn't think so. You would agree with me if you had.
I don't need to see it. It isn't possible to get better than 100%.
EVERYTHING in Unix is remotable. The best anyone can do is to match
that, but it isn't physically possible to actually beat it.
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From: "Bobby D. Bryant" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Uptimes by OS, for the Hot 100.
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 17:24:42 -0600
Kevin Ford wrote:
> what's the url again?
If you're asking about the Hot 100, it's
http://www.100hot.com/directory/100hot/index.html
Bobby
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Poor Linux
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:24:55 -0500
Kyle Jacobs wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> > > Oh, definitively Windows 2000. Linux used to make my hard drive do a
> tap
> > > dance when performing high-memory operations (creating big pictures
> under
> > > GIMP), yet Windows 2000, similar software, similar application sizes.
> > > Windows 2000 loaded a majority of the program into psychical memory,
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > Are Diana Ross and the Psychic Friends Network a part of this
> configuration?
>
> No, but my terrible spelling is.
>
> > > removing what seemed to have been my other programs (even the ones I had
> > > been working in) to VRam.
> >
> > Kyle, you don't have the faintest fucking clue about how virtual memory
> works.
>
> I don't think you have a clue how Windows 2000 deals with virtual memory.
> Windows 2000 Professional doesn't use "sleep" (to put it into UNIX
> terminology) definitions to transfer programs, it uses the UI focus to
> denote priority, or when changed to "background process" priority mode, uses
> the old style of "load first" to load applications into memory, in priority
> going to real, and then virtual.
Translation: When a process becomes idle, and and active process needs more
physical memory, the system starts paging to swap out physical memory
being used by the idle processes, just like every other virtual memory
scheme on the fucking planet.
>
> Pity Win2k doesn't have a "sleep timer".
>
> > > Chalk it up to dynamic process resource reallocation under 2000!
> >
> > moron. ALL virtual memory systems work like that, you ignorant fucking
> twit.
>
> Linux does not have the ability to auto-reneice applications based upon
> activity.
Actually, the Unix scheduler has done task dynamic re-prioritization since
the very beginning (i.e. late 1960's), shit for brains.
> My GIMP process tree doesn't get priority level neicing when
> doing a complicated math operation while the rest of XFree86 sits idle. It
> gets what it was started at (0) and shares resources with all my other
> programs running at the time.
There's more to Unix process scheduling than the Nice value.
>
> So rather than shooting your mouth off about a technology you clearly know
> nothing about (Windows), I suggest you avoid from future embarrassment.
Rather than shooting off your mouth about technology you clearly don't
understand (virtual memory and process schedulers), I suggest you attend
a world-class university, get a degree in Computer Systems Engineering, and
write the kernal for a multi-user, multi-tasking operating system, and
thus save yourself from future embarassment.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: The *BEST* advertising!
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 18:28:34 -0500
ono wrote:
>
> > It's pretty clear that flatfish is beside himself because Linux
> > is threatening windows - why this should bother anyboy is not clear,
> > unless they own ms stock, or getting paid to poison usenet forums.
>
> It bothers me because there are always 'managers' asking us why we build
> industrial robots using w2k instead of linux.
Pretty good question.
Why are we paying so much for equipment that is built on an expensive,
buggy, proprietary system when you could get better results using a
free, stable, open system....
> Of course they heard that
> linux is free and stable where w2k is too expensive and unreliable.
All of which is true.
> We mostly respond that it is theoretically possible but if they want to find
> out, they have to hire new programmers.
Translation: We're too lazy to replace our shit-head LoseDOS programmers
with people intelligent enough to invest their time learning
how to program reliable, efficient Unix/Linux systems.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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