Linux-Advocacy Digest #156, Volume #32 Mon, 12 Feb 01 18:13:06 EST
Contents:
Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Does Code Decay (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Does Code Decay (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Does Code Decay (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Does Code Decay (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Laptop and linux. Which one??? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Linux and the 21st Century Boom - Re: Wy Linux will/is failing on (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone? (David Steinberg)
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy,rec.games.frp.dnd
Subject: Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:27:48 -0500
Unknown Poster wrote:
>
> "Steve Hix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Aaron Kulkis
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Unknown Poster wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You must remember that in the Mac world the GUI is the Computer,
> > > > > therefore
> > > > > any ignorant Mac-ite troll won't realise the utter stupidity of that
> > > > > last
> > > > > remark and just what it says about them.
> > > > >
> > > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > > No, according to Larry Ellison, the Network is the computer...
> > >
> > > That was Sun's motto LONG before Ellison was in charge.
> >
> > And Ellison *still* isn't in charge at Sun...
>
> At least one person knows who Ellison is..
Oops...rather fatigued from weekend military exercise.
Ellison is at Oracle...but the point still holds.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Bill Gates and Michael Dell
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:28:48 -0500
Lars Tr�ger wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Lars Tr�ger wrote:
> > >
> > > Peter Seebach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > > Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > >12x ATAPI CD-ROM not detected???
> > > > >I'm not buying THAT load of horse-shit either,
> > > >
> > > > Then you're forgetting one of the most common PC Unix problems; most
> > > > Unix-like systems politely ignore incorrectly jumpered drives - say, a
> > > > slave device on a channel with no master device.
> > >
> > > You are assuming that Kookis knows anything about what he is talking
> > > about - he doesn't. He had a few too many grenades explode in close
> > > proximity.
> > >
> > > Lars T.
> >
> > DUMBASS IDIOT did NOT correctly configure his EASY-AS-PIE
> > ATAPI CD-ROM...and he's blaming the problem on Linux, rather than his
> > own incompetance.
> >
> > This has ZERO to do with grenade explosions.
>
> See what I mean? He's just like the NTrolls, absolutly no help, blaming
> it all on the user.
You're saying that MIS-configuration hardware by putting the jumpers in
the wrong place is the software's fault?
>
> Lars T.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Code Decay
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:31:49 -0500
Matthias Warkus wrote:
>
> It was the Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:18:27 -0500...
> ...and Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Matthias Warkus wrote:
> > >
> > > It was the Fri, 09 Feb 2001 16:40:58 -0500...
> > > ...and Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > [plutonium fission bomb]
> > > > You don't even need that... We're talking about something the size of
> > > > a softball. You can merely make a sphere with a cylinder hollowed out
> > > > of it...and a matching cylinder which drops (by gravity) into the
> > > > hollowed-out space. Then make a time-delay device that gives you a
> > > > two-hour delay.
> > >
> > > ROTFLMAO.
> > >
> > > You think that letting a piece of plutonium drop into a subcritical
> > > mass *by gravity* will give you an explosive chain reaction? Pretty
> > > naive.
> >
> >
> > IF the combine mass of the two pieces exceeds critical mass, then
> > yes...that's all you need.....
> >
> >
> > ...by definition.
>
> No. There have been critical-mass accidents at nuclear waste treatment
> facilites (nearly every facility of that kind has experienced at least
> one such accident).
>
> Surprisingly, none of the facilities have gone up in a mushroom cloud
> ;)
Then, by definition, it wasn't critical mass.
Critical Mass is that mass (in the specified shape and distribution)
needed
to explode. (example the critical mass for a sphere is lower than for
a thin rod with length:diameter ratio of 10:1)
>
> mawa
> --
> Zur�ckl�chler!
> Zungenkussverweigerer!
> Zeltfeger!
> Zweiweckersteller!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Code Decay
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:33:55 -0500
Matthias Warkus wrote:
>
> It was the Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:19:56 -0500...
> ...and Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >You think that letting a piece of plutonium drop into a subcritical
> > > >mass *by gravity* will give you an explosive chain reaction? Pretty
> > > >naive.
> > > >
> > > yeah, trying this with plutonium will simply result in a fizzle,
> > > the reaction will ramp up slowly enough that the heat produced
> > > will disperse the plutonium, thus dropping it below critical mass.
> > > You need the pellet of Pu to to go in the cavity at a great rate
> > > of speed. One of (I think it was the Nagasaki bomb) was a gun-type
> > > device, but used U238.
>
> (U-235, to be correct; 238 is natural uranium and will only work as,
> for example, a tertiary stage in the usual fission-fusion-fission
> bombs.)
>
> > > The Pu bomb, was an implosion type.
> > >
> >
> > Those bombs were NOT pressure-assisted.
>
> Wrong. Fat Man *was* pressure-assisted as it was an implosion-type
> bomb.
>
> > The only purpose for the explosives was to make sure that the
> > sub-critical mass elements were properly pushed together so that
> > they would exceed critical mass.
>
> No. Their purpose was to make sure that the sub-critical mass elements
> were compressed into one critical mass that rested together in one
> piece despite of the energy that was ramping up inside.
>
> As long as the pressure generated by the gunshot or the implosion was
> not completely balanced by the pressure generated from the increasing
> heat inside, the bombs continued to yield energy. The moment the
> density of the fissile block dropped below the initial density, the
> chain reaction stopped.
Actually not. The chain reaction puts a LOT more sub-atomic particles
flying around. Once the chain reaction goes "run away", the material
stays "run away" at a lower density.
It's simply a matter of the density of free neutrons, etc. flying about.
>
> The higher the initial compression is, the longer the reaction will
> run and the higher the relative yield.
>
> mawa
> --
> Zur�ckl�chler!
> Zungenkussverweigerer!
> Zeltfeger!
> Zweiweckersteller!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Code Decay
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:35:05 -0500
Matthias Warkus wrote:
>
> It was the Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:25:07 -0500...
> ...and Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Matthias Warkus wrote:
> > >
> > > It was the Fri, 09 Feb 2001 16:43:28 -0500...
> > > ...and Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Get enough fissionable material, and you merely have to drop plug-B
> > > > into hollowed-out-part-A, and the thing goes off...in a foolproof
> > > > manner.
> > >
> > > And in a pretty useless manner, as the triggered chain reaction will
> > > be rather weak and end as soon as the mass has molten or such.
> > >
> > > Yeah, it'll surely produce some cool blue light and a lot of
> > > radiation. But no explosion.
> >
> > If you have critical mass, it will explode.
> >
> > That's the DEFINITION of critical mass.
>
> No. You're wrong.
>
> The definition of critical mass for a certain mixture of fissile mass
> in a certain environment is simply that mass where there is, in
> average, more than one secondary neutron generated from every primary
> neutron, which will lead the neutron flux to ramp up, but not
> necessarily to explosion.
>
> At the Manhattan Project, they had a bench where two U-235 hemispheres
> were mounted at a certain distance. A scientist did critical-mass
> experiments there, approaching one hemisphere to the other by slowly
> turning a screw. One day, an accident happened, and the hemispheres
> touched.
Feynman said that it was dropping a cylinder of material through
a hollowed out passage in another piece.
>
> If a nuclear explosion had happened in that moment, the world would
> know it as it would have destroyed about one third of all the
> weapon-grade fissile material available in the world at that time ;).
> In reality, the result was just a blue flash, lots of radiation, and a
> severely burnt scientist.
>
> mawa
> --
> Stand at ease.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does Code Decay
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:35:39 -0500
Peter Hayes wrote:
>
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:25:07 -0500, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Matthias Warkus wrote:
> > >
> > > It was the Fri, 09 Feb 2001 16:43:28 -0500...
> > > ...and Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Get enough fissionable material, and you merely have to drop plug-B
> > > > into hollowed-out-part-A, and the thing goes off...in a foolproof
> > > > manner.
> > >
> > > And in a pretty useless manner, as the triggered chain reaction will
> > > be rather weak and end as soon as the mass has molten or such.
> > >
> > > Yeah, it'll surely produce some cool blue light and a lot of
> > > radiation. But no explosion.
> >
> > If you have critical mass, it will explode.
> >
> > That's the DEFINITION of critical mass.
>
> As soon as the bomb starts to explode the component parts will fly apart
> and drop below critical mass. The explosion will last maybe nanoseconds
> before the bomb self destructs as it were. No explosion bigger than a
> firecracker.
>
> Didn't Fatboy consist of many small components forced together
> simultaneously, the timing being the difficult bit?
>
> Echelon must be having a field day...
>
Good. Overwhelm them with useless bullshit.
> Peter
> --
>
> In the 19th century surveyors measured the height of Everest
> from 500 miles away in India.
> This cannot be done today. Everest is no longer visible from
> the survey location due to increased atmospheric pollution.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Laptop and linux. Which one???
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 22:41:36 GMT
What an asshole........
On 12 Feb 2001 22:10:51 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Likewise
>
>Nuh uh! YOU are!
>
>Wit like bales of cotton, that claire.
>
>
>
>
>-----.
Flatfish
Why do they call it a flatfish?
Remove the ++++ to reply.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:38:52 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Only partially true. People seem to forget that Linux (while great) is
> only a small piece of the picture. Most of "Linux" is really GNU which
> has been around for quite awhile, I won't pretent to remember the exact
> date but that was the brain child of RMS.
>
True...but most of GNU has no purpose without a Linux-like kernal...
> Carson
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> jtnews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Who cares about politics or government?
> > As far as I'm concerned most of the world
> > governments impose high taxes and do much
> > more than they should do "for the people".
> > Everything except law enforcement and the military
> > should be privatized and out of government
> > hands. Then maybe things will get better.
> >
> > Science and technology really doesn't "belong"
> > to one country or another, to suggest otherwise
> > is rather silly. The perceived inequities
> > of today can be really fleeting. All it takes
> > is a few key employees to move from one country
> > to another and to setup a corporation and, bang,
> > the balance of power has changed.
> >
> > Steve Withers wrote:
> > >
> > > G'day
> > >
> > > I've been following developments closely on this.
> > >
> > > It appears that sometime this year all new Microsot software will need
> > > to be registered....or it will cease to function.
> > >
> > > This may offer OS alternatives like Linux a huge toe in the desktop
> > > door. With more and more homes being networked and having multiple PCs,
> > > how many home and small business users are going to be forced to pay up
> > > and stop using the "One CD fits all" approach they use today?
> > >
> > > In my own case.....I would have to upgrade 7 home PCs every year for
> > > both Windows and MS Office.....to the tune of lots of dosh per annum. As
> > > it is, I now have 3 of those systems on Linux...and quite happily.
> > >
> > > But some of my family members are reluctant to give up Windows. I may
> > > have to suggest to them that they pay for it in future....as I will only
> > > be paying for Linux software from 2001 onward.
> > >
> > > It is intersting that the US produced Windows......the country with
> > > one-party (two faction) politics has also given us no choice on the
> > > desktop. While politically diverse Europe with multi-party, proportional
> > > systems as the politcal norm, has given us Open Software and Linux....
> > >
> > > Sort of the illusion of freedom (US politics) vs the reality of freedom
> > > (European politics - outside Britain).
> > >
> > > There is an underlying cultural thing operating here somewhere...... :-)
> > >
> > > Steve
> >
>
> --
> Carson R. Wilcox
> Senior Architect
> DMR Consulting Group
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Linux and the 21st Century Boom - Re: Wy Linux will/is failing on
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 17:41:05 -0500
J Sloan wrote:
>
> Lloyd Llewellyn wrote:
>
> > That said, I think a lot of people who give up on Linux the first time
> > eventually return to it. When I first tried it, I did have a "Windows"
> > mind-set, and when Linux didn't conform to it, I was discouraged. But I
> > remained intrigued, and a couple months later went back and tried it again. Now
> > I only grudgingly boot into Win2K when I have to. If there were a version of
> > pcAnywhere for Linux I'd probably never boot into Windows.
>
> How about ssh + X11?
>
> works for me....
He means something that runs on Linux that would allow him access
to his Lose2K stuff.
>
> jjs
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Steinberg)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone?
Date: 12 Feb 2001 22:48:15 GMT
Zsolt Zsoldos ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: Is this a new trend or I just picked the wrong distribution ?
: Anybody care to comment on RedHat 7.x or other distribution's newest
: versions from the developer's pont of view ? Are they also stripped
: down?
Have you taken a look at Debian yet? I would have guessed that a Linux
old-timer such as yourself <grin> would have. It so, did you not like
it? I recently switched from Mandrake, and I am most impressed.
Like you said Mandrake is flashy, but it's not really all that well put
together. Everything doesn't always work correctly, and like you said, it
seems like it's geared towards non-developers. I was also frustrated
that, in 7.1 (the last version I used) the C++ standard libraries weren't
even on the first CD! There are some decidedly unuseful packages
included on the first CD, but no C++ standard libraries?!
Anyways, Debian is built by the community for the community...and that
means that developers and more advanced users matter. There's no push to
have pointy-clicky configuration tools, but configuration is usually
easier, anyway, consisting of a few questions asked in a package's
post-install script. And package management is, of course, superb. To
keep up to date, you just need to run "apt-get update; apt-get upgrade",
and any package updates are applied. To install a new package foo,
"apt-get install foo" takes care of the package and all of its
dependencies. I almost cried the first time I saw it work, it was so
beautiful. :)
People have complained that the installation is difficult, but for someone
with the experience you've had, it should be a breeze. Just remember to
start small with package selection, and then "apt-get" whatever you need,
as you need it.
Enough of my gushing: check out www.debian.org for more information.
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David Steinberg -o)
Computer Engineering Undergrad, UBC / \
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