Linux-Advocacy Digest #158, Volume #32 Mon, 12 Feb 01 19:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: How will I convert Linux partition to FAT (Glitch)
Re: Interesting article (Dave Martel)
Re: Interesting article (Dave Martel)
Re: Win2K - Minuses outweigh plusses (Peter Hayes)
Re: Answer this if you can... (Glitch)
Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone? (Jim Broughton)
Re: Linux Threat: non-existant ("Mart van de Wege")
Re: Answer this if you can... (Glitch)
Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone? ("Mart van de
Wege")
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (Perry Pip)
Re: Linux reference distro (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Linux fails to deliver on the hype (Aaron Kulkis)
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:30:12 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: How will I convert Linux partition to FAT
Jimmy Navarro wrote:
> How will I reformat Linux partition to FAT or FAT32? I have /dev/hda1
> 2.1GB as M$ Windows 98, /dev/hda5 and /hda6 with Linux Mandrake 7.1. I
> can't reload Windows nor Linux because the CD-ROM drive is not curently
> working.
try posting to a newsgroup that is used to help people, first of all
second, use a dos bootdisk with the fdisk and format commands on them.
And i'd suggest you fix your cdrom
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:19:50 -0700
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 05:21:41 GMT, "Mike Byrns"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Dave Martel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:11:39 GMT, "Mike Byrns"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > Linux implementations
>> >are by definition "amateur" as they are done as a pastime rather than as
>a
>> >profession.
>>
>> Then what's it say about MS's so-called "professional" programmers,
>> that these "amateur" linux programmers stole 30% of MS's Server
>> market? <chortle!>
>
>First of all it "says" nothing because it's patently untrue.
Rubbish. I got the number from your own source (IDC).
>There are two
>server markets -- WWW and LAN/Applications. January 2001 Netcraft report
>says
That's it, keep subdividing the issue until you can find some sliver
where MS actually shows some growth.
>This is particularly interesting since web serving was a completely UNIX
>market in the beginning. Microsoft was a latecomer to the party.
>Microsoft's only been playing the web game in earnest since IIS3.0
>introduced ASP in late 1997. See
>http://windowsitlibrary.com/Content/435/11/1.html. So if you really want to
>talk about who stole who's market I think you need to do your history
>homework :-)
"Of course the increase was dramatic: It's easy to make big gains when
you're starting from scratch." ;->
>If you dig a little deeper into the Netcraft site you'll find that most of
>the big names are running Apache on Solaris or IIS on NT/2000. As a
>platform/server combo Windows beats the pants off Apache on Linux.
Actually I never noticed any Netcraft breakdowns by operating system,
though I can't imagine why they wouldn't have one. Do you have a URL?
>On the LAN/Applications server front the truth is even more in contrast to
>your statements. NT usage has increased pretty steadily since it's
>introduction. Linux' gains have come principally at the expense of Netware
>and commercial Unices.
It doesn't matter where the gains came from, that's still market share
that "written-by-amateurs" linux took and Microsoft didn't.
>"First up is Linux, which International Data Corporation (IDC) says captured
>24 percent of the server market in 1999, a dramatic increase over the
>previous year. Of course the increase was dramatic: It's easy to make big
>gains when you're starting from scratch. Linux advocates note that the
>market share for NT remained steady at 38 percent last year, the first time
>its share didn't rise. But does that figure really represent a loss for
>Windows, or does it simply indicate market maturation?
The server market wasn't "mature" if there was room for a competing OS
to expand to 24% while NT just sat there and stagnated for two years.
>What Linux backers won't tell
>you is that IDC, which produced these figures, believes that Windows 2000
>(the next version of NT), not Linux, will dominate the server market by
>2003.
Heck, NT dominated in 1999 (NT 38%, Linux 25%, Netware 19%, Unix 15%).
2003 is still too close for _any_ OS to overcome that kind of
head-start combined with MS's marketing clout. Try looking a little
farther down the road, say about 2005-2008.
>> >If you could
>> >"until all available memory has been used" then you are doing two things
>> >wrong -- you've turned off virtual memory and your implementation caches
>> >everything in memory regardless of it's size instead of implementing a
>spool
>> >or diff file or using memory mapped files. Perhaps a call to
>> >GlobalMemoryStatusEx could be used to determine the right amount of cache
>> >:-) You also didn't specify what OS this is either, nor what allocation
>> >mechanism your implementation is using -- new/delete, malloc/free or the
>> >heap functions. In fact you've said nothing to make anyone who has done
>any
>> >serious Windows programming believe a word you've said let alone be able
>to
>> >blame the OS for your ineptitude.
>> >
>>
>> *REAL* OS's aren't brought to their knees by an applications
>> programmer's ineptitude.
>
>Then there aren't any real OSs. Everything from funky floppies
>http://security-archive.merton.ox.ac.uk/bugtraq-199803/0182.html to ldap
>application software
>http://www.openldap.org/lists/openldap-software/200008/msg00306.html can
>crash linux. My favorite "user app crashes kernel" story is
>http://cthulhu.ale.org/ale-archive/ale-1996-08/msg00139.html and how linux
>crashes when it runs out of RAM
>http://thaigate.rd.nacsis.ac.jp/list/th.pubnet.linux/msg11240.html.
>
No matter how much you quibble, you can't possibly win the stability
issue. Linux is legendary in that department.
So is Windows, but in a different sort of way. <g>
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:20:21 -0700
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 02:16:28 GMT, "Chad Myers"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>"Dave Martel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:11:39 GMT, "Mike Byrns"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> > Linux implementations
>> >are by definition "amateur" as they are done as a pastime rather than as a
>> >profession.
>>
>> Then what's it say about MS's so-called "professional" programmers,
>> that these "amateur" linux programmers stole 30% of MS's Server
>> market? <chortle!>
>
>Even though I know you're just being facetious, to be completely
>accurate, Linux stole market share from other Unixes. Windows'
>market share hasn't declined, in fact continues to rise.
I could argue with that - but it's more fun pointing out that you're
saying that "professionally written" Windows NT wasn't able to grab
that percentage of the market away from Unix, while "non-professional"
linux was. :-)
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Win2K - Minuses outweigh plusses
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:28:14 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 8 Feb 2001 23:01:13 -0600, "Conrad Rutherford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> I love the lies - this is really hilarious.
>
> There are SOOOO many items in this post that make it perfectly obvious that
> the writer is either lying or so completely idiotic that I refuse to believe
> he could spell linux let alone run it.
>
> This "Pfaffenberger" is a total fucking moron.
Try http://www.eh.net/bhc/Conference/fud.html
<snip CR's clueless re-posting of the original article - total fucking
moron>
Peter
--
In the 19th century surveyors measured the height of Everest
from 500 miles away in India.
This cannot be done today. Everest is no longer visible from
the survey location due to increased atmospheric pollution.
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 18:43:02 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Answer this if you can...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 18:13:37 +0100, John Muir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>
>> <Tirade>
>>
>> Now please don't get me wrong, I WANT to like Linux, I want to tell
>> everyone how good it is, that they are silly to stay with Windows,
>> that Linux is faster and better, but...
>
>
> Linux isn't faster.
> Linux isn't better.
> Linux stinks.
> Stick with your instincts.
>
>
>
>
>> I have been using Linux off and on for about three years. Every now
>> and again I get the urge to use it constantly and at first find it
>> wonderful and open and fast and non-Windows, but then comes the
>> STOPPER...
>
>
> Yea, like trying to do anything truly useful with it.
>
>
>
>> <Examples>
>>
>> I install some RPM package or other and at the end of the
>> install...NOTHING... where is the bloody thing? How do I start it?
>> Where is the new menu entry. Nuffin' doing kid. Now for some REAL fun
>> 'find -i / -iname mozilla' ... and then work out if it's a binary or
>> script. If it's a script then './blahblah' ... Yes, you arrogant
>> bastard, I know Linux is so bloody clever that this will stop baddies
>> usurping ... and so on. But it doesn't make anyone actually want to use
>> Linux instead of Windows, does it?
>
>
> Exactly.
> Linux is written by geeks, for geeks and that is why it remains a
> curiosity to normal users. Much like the bearded lady in a carnival.
>
>
>
>
>> I want to copy a line of text from my xterm window (or browser window)
>> to another app ... forget it! EVERY Windows app can cut & paste to
>> another app, why not Linux? This is CRIMINAL!
>
>
>
> I've already been through this for 100's of posts.
> They deny it.
>
>
>
>> I can't get the delete key to delete the character to the RIGHT of the
>> insertion cursor in X. (Please don't even try to tell me that
>> 'historic' reasons related to teletypes and punched tape have any
>> rele-vance to today). In spite of almost a whole day spent reading
>> HOWTO's and searching Google et al, if I enter <ctrl>-v then the
>> 'delete' key is STILL COMES BACK WITH '^?' INSTEAD OF '[[3~' although
>> outside of X it works fine. That I should even have to know such
>> arcane crap in 2001 is a total mystery to me.
>
>
> You can fix this in Mandrake during install time, but you'll never
> figure out how because the instructions are buried.
>
>
>
>> </Examples>
>>
>> I now understand that there really is a good reason why Microsoft
>> spends so much effort on usability labs and such. Why do I seem always
>> to have to fight Linux. Why doesn't it even TRY to help me? The
>> arrogant attitude of some Linux 'gurus' is really childish..."REAL
>> programmers enjoy wasting whole days trying to get Delete and
>> Backspace working in all apps."
>
>
> Microsoft cares about it's users and understands the home market.
that's why their software is so insecure right? B/c they think people
getting viruses and having their data erased is a good thing and shows
they care about their users?
> Linux cares about it's geeks and that is why it is in the skeletal,
> dis-oriented, build it yourself state it is in now.
>
>
>
>> For all the 'holier than thou' attitude of so many Linux advocates,
>> Linux is simply 'spaghetti code' gone wild. Has no one in the Linux
>> community read Parnas (1972) "On the Criteria to be used Decom-posing
>> Systems into Modules?" If so, then why are whole web sites devoted to
>> trying to help poor idi-ots like myself get the bloody 'delete' key to
>> delete the character to the right of the insertion cur-sor? Have you
>> lot never heard of encapsulation?
>
>
> Because Linux sucks.
> There are entire web sites devoted to making Fonts look decent also.
> Entire web sites devoted to making Samba work.
> Entire web sites devoted to security.
> Entire web sites devoted to making a SBLive work under Linsux.
> And so forth.....
>
>
i guess Flat doesn't even know that there is a HUGE KB on microsoft.com.
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From: Jim Broughton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:37:57 GMT
Zsolt Zsoldos wrote:
> Hi All,
>
(BIG SNIP)
> Now my rant:
> A lot of RPM packages, that I could download from the net were packaged
> with a newer version of RPM and the one included in Mandrake 7.1 could not
> handle them. Funny, that even the new version of 'rpm' was packed with
> that, so I've seen no way to get around this problem other than upgrade
> to 7.2 which had a newer rpm in it. OK, I bought Mandrake "COMPLETE"
> the 4CD version from Macmillan Software. Compared to my previous 2CD
> version 7.1. it is rather incomplete!
I too ran into the RPM upgrade problem with my server box and redhat 6.1.
Luckily my personal box runs slackware 7.1. Rpm and linuxconf are the reasons
I went to slackware.
> 1. Upgrade from 7.1 to 7.2 via the install CD 'upgrade' option does not work.
snip
> 2. Installing 'on top' of 7.1 without that being wiped out gets into an
snip
> 3. OK, usable state, package manager crazy, basic things (like terminals)
snip
> 4. Fortunately, some of these are on the CDs, so I could install them AFTER
snip
> 5. Some of the missing packages are not even on the CDs, e.g. cvs does not
> come
snip
Sorry I know nothing of this. Although recent complaints from mandrake users on
this and other NG's would make me think real hard before taking on one of their
distro's.
> In conclusion: Mandrake 7.2 provides a very flashy install and boot system,
This seems to echo what most mandrake users have to say. Install is a breeze
until you actualy try to do something. Try debian first if that does not do the
trick get slackware 7.1 or 7.2 if 7.2 is out yet.
> Is this a new trend or I just picked the wrong distribution ?
>
Seems as though you just may have picked a bad distro for development.
Stay far away from redhat these days. At least till they get there act together
which at this point seems like it may take them to 7.2 to get it right.
I like others perfer a more classic style system which is why I chose
slackware.
I do not mind getting my hands dirty with the configuration files. (in fact with
slackware its just too damn easy. All the configuration files are commented up
the wazoo making it easy to make changes.) The init files are in bsd style.
Debian has the apt-get thingy for easy upgrades going for it although they tend
to use older kernels (they call it their stable branch) I call it behind the
times. (you can use a devel branch if you wish which has a newer though still
not the most recent kernel)
> Have a good day,
You too. Sorry your having problems.
--
Jim Broughton slackware gnu/linux user.
(The AmigaOS now there was an OS!)
If Sense were common everyone would have it!
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From: "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Threat: non-existant
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:36:39 +0100
In article <huRh6.29592$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chad
Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yes, there is a question. If I switched to Linux right now, I
> would see an instant 100% drop in productivity. Why? Not
> because of the learning curve. I'll even give you a bone and
> forget about that part for now. Why else, then? Because there
> are no good development IDEs on Linux. I use Visual J++ on
> Windows to develop java, and then compile the Sun JDK 1.3
> compiler to get 100% pure java classes. The VJ++ IDE is awesome
> though because of pop-up method/field lists, the pop-up
> function references with javadoc comments included, among many
> other features. The only closest editor that's this good is
> JEdit that I've found at least. EMacs has too steep a learning
> curve and I'd be fighting my editor, which I don't want to do.
> I want my editor to work for me, not the other way around.
>
Chad,
Sorry I just can't resist: the German magazine Linux Magazin mad
the following comment on IDEs: "They are great, any idiot can
click together a program. A side effect of course is that one
has to live with programs clicked together by idiots...".
Apologies for the blatant flame, but you've been asking for it.
Mart
--
Happily running Debian, posting with Pan
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:04:26 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Answer this if you can...
>
> I would like to take the opportunity of thanking the few souls who
> kept a level head and even tried to help and to damn the others who
> were simply abusive. They do no good to the name of Linux.
you don't do any good either
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From: "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Downgrading to Mandrake 7.2 - did Linux become a windoze clone?
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 00:49:41 +0100
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Well,
It has been pointed out by various people that LM 7.2, while
cutting edge, is rather flaky. Also the McMillan version has
always been incomplete (your type of complaints were raised about 7.0 as
well). As several other people have pointed out, If you are an
experienced user, try Debian! It won't autodetect anything on
install, but that's just about it's only weakness. If you choose
to upgrade to testing or unstable, you will sacrifice some (or a
lot of) stability, but will be as cutting edge as LM7.2, and it
does come with just about everything you need.
Mart
--
Happily running Debian, posting with Pan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perry Pip)
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Date: 13 Feb 2001 00:01:52 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:48:15 +0000,
Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Which brings up one of my pet peeves --- how *do* you print a postscript
>> file to a postscript printer under Windows? Note: Under *Windows*. Not
>> under DOS.
>
>Unless your printer understands postscript, you can't.
Even if your printer does understand postscript, you can't, except
thru a dos box.
>Pete Goodwin, running Linux Mandrake 7.2
sed "s/running/misconfiguring and whining about/"
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux reference distro
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:07:09 -0500
Mike wrote:
>
> "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Mike wrote:
> > >
> > > "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Now that various Linux companies are having money issues, as with most
> > > tech
> > > > companies in the U.S.A, this might be a perfect time to reassert the
> > > notion of
> > > > a standard linux configuration.
> > > >
> > > > An open standard about package format, configuration files, and
> compliance
> > > > versions, anyone remember this?
> > > >
> > > > I see, in the near future, if SuSE or RedHat goes under, that
> corporations
> > > may
> > > > have an issue with support. A set of standards, created by and adhered
> to,
> > > will
> > > > make any one company failure irrelevant. This is the power of open
> source.
> > >
> > > But they also make any one company irrelevant. It seems to me that there
> are
> > > only two ways for an open source company to distinguish itself from the
> > > competition: differentiate the product, and offer services. In selecting
> a
> > > distribution, if the only difference between a Red Hat distribution and
> any
> > > other is the label on the CD, then there's little reason to select Red
> Hat.
> > > I'd argue that Red Hat has to differentiate to survive.
> >
> > I disagree entirely. Were RedHat, SuSE, and whom ever, identical, the
> value
> > added would be the support of the distribution. If licensed RedHat users
> were
> > e-mailed the patches in an encrypted tar-ball, wouldn't that be a huge
> draw to
> > license RedHat? How about if they were e-mailed update alerts?
>
> A good point, but that can happen whether there's a standard or not.
>
> > There are many things an open source vendor can do to make money and a
> name for
> > themselves. The problem is that most do not understand that they can not
> > operate like a closed source software company.
> >
> > Open source companies are 'VARs' not ISVs or software OEMs. The people
> that
> > want to sell open source software as if they are an ISV or a software OEM
> will
> > fail because the business model does not work. There is no secret code
> which
> > makes you better than others.
> >
> > It is a tough business, but it is less tough because you don't have to
> write
> > your write your software, and there are thousands of people improving the
> > software you service.
>
> Red Hat is on track to be profitable some time in 2002. To be honest, I'm
> not sure whether they look like a VAR or an ISV, or even an OEM. I think the
> folks at Red Hat would argue that there is a difference in their
> distribution, and that customers want what theirs has to offer, even if it
> can only be described in vague terms. What is clear is that they have
> changed their business model as time has evolved. They originally talked
> about becoming a web portal, and generating web advertising revenue. Today,
> they point to the growing parts of their business and say they're going to
> do more of that. I think the business model is simple: do what people want
> to pay for.
This is where Microsoft is losing it...
By allowing themselves lower standards (due to their illegal monopoly),
they have finally sunk to the level where NOBODY wants to *pay* for
their
fuckedup buggy crap.
>
> -- Mike --
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux fails to deliver on the hype
Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:09:16 -0500
Tim Hanson wrote:
>
> "T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> >
> > Said Pete Goodwin in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:10:36
> > GMT;
> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > >>...and the troll comes from under the bridge, shakes his fist,
> > >>snickers, and slinks back under.
> > >
> > >Oh I dunno. I was thinking about trying the SuSe distro after all the fun
> > >of Mandrake.
> >
> > To be honest, this announcement would lead to be believe that it isn't
> > just hype that SuSE is the Linux distro for "serious" users. Though I
> > do think they have a more 'industrial' attitude than an average PC user
> > would be happy with; maybe that's just my biased description of what
> > I've picked up from references, though, as I haven't ever actually seen
> > their product.
> >
> > --
> > T. Max Devlin
> > *** The best way to convince another is
> > to state your case moderately and
> > accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
>
> As a happy SuSE user I can tell you their distribution is plenty
> friendly to casual users, and has gotten more so with the last two
> versions. They haven't marketed well in the United States, in my
> opinion.
>
> SuSE's strengths are meticulous care in testing and tweaking, their
> install/admin program (YaST and YaST2), and brute force bang for the
> buck. No other distribution even comes close to the sheer volume of
> software included with each version, all of it tested.
Very true.
>
> --
> Test-tube babies shouldn't throw stones.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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