Linux-Advocacy Digest #205, Volume #32 Thu, 15 Feb 01 08:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: WindowsXP - Pay us to solve our bugs ("Todd")
Re: WindowsXP - Pay us to solve our bugs ("Todd")
Re: Peformance Test ("Todd")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (John Hasler)
Re: WindowsXP - Pay us to solve our bugs (Bloody Viking)
Re: How Microsoft Crushes the Hearts of Trolls. (Bloody Viking)
Re: WindowsXP - Pay us to solve our bugs (Nils Zonneveld)
Re: How Microsoft Crushes the Hearts of Trolls. (Bloody Viking)
Re: WindowsXP - Pay us to solve our bugs (pip)
Re: Interesting article (Giuliano Colla)
Re: Interesting article (Giuliano Colla)
Re: WindowsXP - Pay us to solve our bugs (pip)
Re: Ethernet card for UNIX/Linux (janwillem)
Re: I will give MS credit for one thing (pip)
Re: Interesting article (Giuliano Colla)
"Linux Usage Linked to AMD Damage" - MSN R&D Division Customer Alert (BillyG.)
Re: linux is dieing (Peter Hayes)
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From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WindowsXP - Pay us to solve our bugs
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:55:28 +0800
"pip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> Did I read this wrong or do you have to pay for beta software these
> days?
Yup... Where were you for Mac OS X beta? Red Hat betas? Be OS betas?
??
Hell, even IBM *charged* money for OS/2 betas - OS/2 *production* versions
aren't worth the CDs they are put on.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/preview/default.asp
>
> What _is_ the world coming to?
It's been like that for a long time... maybe you ought to go outside once
and a while and get some fresh air.
-Todd
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From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WindowsXP - Pay us to solve our bugs
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:57:47 +0800
"Bloody Viking" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:96f1ta$1r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> pip ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : Did I read this wrong or do you have to pay for beta software these
> : days?
>
> : http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/preview/default.asp
>
> Looks like you read it right. You get to pay for the beta of Windows Pay
Per
> View.
>
> : What _is_ the world coming to?
>
> An end. Won't be fast, like an asteroid hit, but a slow agonising collapse
of
> civilisation as the fossil fuels run out. (see http://www.oilcrisis.com
for
> details)
Sheesh, you buy into that oil crisis crap? Heh.
The 'market' will solve that. As oil prices rise (according to
supply/demand), alternative technologies will become more used, reducing the
dependence on oil.
Don't stress on it - the market will solve that problem.
As for Linux, the mass market has steered clear.
-Todd
>
> --
> FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
> The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
> The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
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From: "Todd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Peformance Test
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 18:02:13 +0800
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Todd wrote:
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:963ql9$i8f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > "Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >> W2k will not work without a Video card and not a keyboard either.
> > >
> > > > Sorry, wrong on both accounts. It's true that NT and W2k won't work
> > without
> > > > a video card *DRIVER*, but there are headless drivers available that
are
> > > > just NO OP's for headless operation. Also, it runs fine without a
> > keyboard.
> > > > You have to make sure your BIOS is configured not to halt on
keyboard
> > errors
> > > > though (one of the funniest errors ever.. "Keyboard missing, hit F1
to
> > > > continue")
> > >
> > > If by funny, you mean "pathetic", youre quite right.
> > >
> > > Also, dont unplug your mouse and then plug it back in and expect it to
> > work.
> >
> > Ummm... I do this all of the time with no problem... I am using a MS
optical
> > mouse though... are other mice a problem?
> >
> > -Todd
> >
> No wonder you seem to know jack shit! If all you do is unplug and plug
> back in a mouse, it's no surprise you're a prat!
Hehe... real funny.
Actually, I use a switch box that let's you connect three PC's up to one
monitor/keyboard/mouse. It is just a simple 'switch box' - and it works
great with 2000 (or any other OS for that matter I guess).
-Todd
> --
> http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 05:12:40 GMT
Peter T. Breuer writes:
> Well, there are issues of sanity involved here. Doubting the evidence of
> your own senses leaves you in a difficult position.
Not quite what I took him to mean, but I _do_ doubt the evidence of my own
senses in that I doubt single observations and try to rely on a
preponderance of evidence. Experience has taught me that my senses are
easily fooled and my memory unreliable. It has also taught me that this
is true of other people, though most deny it.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Subject: Re: WindowsXP - Pay us to solve our bugs
Date: 15 Feb 2001 11:18:10 GMT
Todd ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: The 'market' will solve that. As oil prices rise (according to
: supply/demand), alternative technologies will become more used, reducing the
: dependence on oil.
A fun problem is that the alternative energy stuff doesn't work well for
transportation except for sailing ships.
--
FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft Crushes the Hearts of Trolls.
Date: 15 Feb 2001 11:20:50 GMT
Aaron Kulkis ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: LRH .. is that L Ron Hubbard
Yep.
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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:57:37 +0100
From: Nils Zonneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WindowsXP - Pay us to solve our bugs
pip wrote:
>
> Did I read this wrong or do you have to pay for beta software these
> days?
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/preview/default.asp
>
> What _is_ the world coming to?
Microsoft is not the only company that let people pay for Beta software.
Apple dared to ask NLG 100,= (the price you pay for the average
computergame) for their beta of Mac OS X. At least Mac OS X is UNIX
based and has a beautiful and original GUI. Windows XP is just another
Mac OS Look and feel rip off with a Playscool theme.
Nils
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: How Microsoft Crushes the Hearts of Trolls.
Date: 15 Feb 2001 11:22:48 GMT
Chad Myers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: So does every other corporation and large organization. What's your
: point?
"Just becuse everyone else robs banks, so should I"
--
FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WindowsXP - Pay us to solve our bugs
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:35:25 +0000
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "pip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > Did I read this wrong or do you have to pay for beta software these
> > days?
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/preview/default.asp
> >
> > What _is_ the world coming to?
>
> Why is it that everytime this happens, the same response is posted as if
> this is the first time they've ever heard of this?
Because it is STUPID. It just shows the utter CONTEMT M$ has for users.
> MS has had preview programs for Windows 2000, Windows 95, Office (don't
> remember which version), and many products such as SQL Server 2000, etc..
>
> Other companies have been doing this for ages as well. IBM did it with a
> pre Warp 3 version, and I again with "Merlin" version 4. Apple did it with
> OSX, BeOS did it with their Developer versions. Hell, even Red Hat sold a
> preview version 7 with a 2.4 test kernel.
Redhat obviously didn't change anything from beta to full. 7 is crap.
Besides,
you have a CHOICE to choose to download it - doh!
> Stop pretending everything MS does is nefarious, and nobody else does the
> same thing.
Tell me about it! That Linus charged us a fortune for 2.0-test - no
wonder he lives in style.
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From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:38:40 GMT
Mike Byrns wrote:
>
> "Giuliano Colla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 05:21:41 GMT, "Mike Byrns"
> > > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>"Dave Martel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > >>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >>> On Sun, 11 Feb 2001 23:11:39 GMT, "Mike Byrns"
> > > >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > Linux implementations
> > > >>> >are by definition "amateur" as they are done as a pastime rather
> than as
> > > >>a
> > > >>> >profession.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Then what's it say about MS's so-called "professional" programmers,
> > > >>> that these "amateur" linux programmers stole 30% of MS's Server
> > > >>> market? <chortle!>
> > > >>
> > > >>First of all it "says" nothing because it's patently untrue.
> > > >
> > > >Rubbish. I got the number from your own source (IDC).
> > > >
> > > He seems to be selective about what numbers he will accept from IDC.
> > >
> > > >>There are two
> > > >>server markets -- WWW and LAN/Applications. January 2001 Netcraft
> report
> > > >>says
> > > >
> > > >That's it, keep subdividing the issue until you can find some sliver
> > > >where MS actually shows some growth.
> > > >
> > > The Sock Puppets do that every time M$ hands them a new press
> > > release.
> > >
> > > I do not know yet if mike.byrns is one or not but he does show
> > > tendencies.
> > >
> > > >>This is particularly interesting since web serving was a completely
> UNIX
> > > >>market in the beginning. Microsoft was a latecomer to the party.
> > > >>Microsoft's only been playing the web game in earnest since IIS3.0
> > > >>introduced ASP in late 1997. See
> > > >>http://windowsitlibrary.com/Content/435/11/1.html. So if you really
> want to
> > > >>talk about who stole who's market I think you need to do your history
> > > >>homework :-)
> > > >
> > > >"Of course the increase was dramatic: It's easy to make big gains when
> > > >you're starting from scratch." ;->
> > > >
> > > Mike does it disturb you when your own mantra comes back to bite you
> ?
> > >
> > > >>If you dig a little deeper into the Netcraft site you'll find that
> most of
> > > >>the big names are running Apache on Solaris or IIS on NT/2000. As a
> > > >>platform/server combo Windows beats the pants off Apache on Linux.
> > > >
> > > >Actually I never noticed any Netcraft breakdowns by operating system,
> > > >though I can't imagine why they wouldn't have one. Do you have a URL?
> > > >
> > > They sell reports like that for hefty change. Its how they support
> > > themselves.
> > >
> > > Mike has good connections it seems.
> > >
> > > Of course he knows we have no chance to check whatever he says but
> > > remember how he quotes IDC selectively and ignores the number he
> > > doesn't like.
> > >
> > > >>On the LAN/Applications server front the truth is even more in
> contrast to
> > > >>your statements. NT usage has increased pretty steadily since it's
> > > >>introduction. Linux' gains have come principally at the expense of
> Netware
> > > >>and commercial Unices.
> > > >
> > > >It doesn't matter where the gains came from, that's still market share
> > > >that "written-by-amateurs" linux took and Microsoft didn't.
> > > >
> > > Good point Dave although I still think he is making that part about
> > > only being from Unix and Novell up.
> > >
> > > >>"First up is Linux, which International Data Corporation (IDC) says
> captured
> > > >>24 percent of the server market in 1999, a dramatic increase over the
> > > >>previous year. Of course the increase was dramatic: It's easy to make
> big
> > > >>gains when you're starting from scratch. Linux advocates note that the
> > > >>market share for NT remained steady at 38 percent last year, the first
> time
> > > >>its share didn't rise. But does that figure really represent a loss
> for
> > > >>Windows, or does it simply indicate market maturation?
> > > >
> > > >The server market wasn't "mature" if there was room for a competing OS
> > > >to expand to 24% while NT just sat there and stagnated for two years.
> > > >
> > > >>What Linux backers won't tell
> > > >>you is that IDC, which produced these figures, believes that Windows
> 2000
> > > >>(the next version of NT), not Linux, will dominate the server market
> by
> > > >>2003.
> > > >
> > > >Heck, NT dominated in 1999 (NT 38%, Linux 25%, Netware 19%, Unix 15%).
> > > >2003 is still too close for _any_ OS to overcome that kind of
> > > >head-start combined with MS's marketing clout. Try looking a little
> > > >farther down the road, say about 2005-2008.
> > > >
> > > That is not what the CEO of IBM said they told him:
> > >
> > > According to IDC, Linux is he fastest growing operating system at 28
> > > percent; Windows is at 21.4 percent. Linux will have 38 percent of the
> > > market by the year 2004 -- and will be the largest operating system in
> > > the server environment that year. And that is one of the reasons why
> > > IBM got behind Linux: these adoption rates were so impressive. They are
> > > a phenomenally powerful statement. It's growth is huge. Its momentum is
> > > building. Its like the Internet: it is moving that fast.
> > > Sam Palmisano IBM president and CEO at LinuxWorld 2001
> > > http://www.ibm.com/news/2001/02/conference_trans.phtml
> > >
> > > See what I mean about mike.byrns spouting numbers that do not seem
> to
> > > come from where he claims ?
> > >
> >
> > To put it bluntly, Mike's numbers appear to come out from the wrong
> > orifice. (Wrong as far as numbers are concerned, I mean)
>
> The numbers had links that were free for you to go to. If you choose to
> ignore or refute them that's fine with me. This group is a waste of time
> anyway.
When I quote a site, I also cut and paste relevant information, in order
to show exactly what I'm speaking of.
It's quite easy to provide links which don't tell anything, or tell a
different story, and pretend that they prove your point.
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From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:44:13 GMT
Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>
[...]
>
> "Asshole" is reserved for people like Goodwin and Myers who constantly
> post all kinds of lies.
>
> The remaining Windows admins are merely idiots.
>
> [Idiots because only an idiot would work for 1/5 the pay of a Unix
> admin while doing 10x as much labor to accomplish 1/10 as much]
>
Sorry, but I disagree. If they can only point and click, what should
they do? Apply for a Unix admin position?
They're just taking advantage of a situation where being competent or
not doesn't make any real difference. Or they've just been unlucky. In
that case they use Linux at home.
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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WindowsXP - Pay us to solve our bugs
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 11:48:26 +0000
Nils Zonneveld wrote:
>
> pip wrote:
> >
> > Did I read this wrong or do you have to pay for beta software these
> > days?
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/preview/default.asp
> >
> > What _is_ the world coming to?
>
> Microsoft is not the only company that let people pay for Beta software.
> Apple dared to ask NLG 100,= (the price you pay for the average
> computergame) for their beta of Mac OS X. At least Mac OS X is UNIX
> based and has a beautiful and original GUI. Windows XP is just another
> Mac OS Look and feel rip off with a Playscool theme.
Yup, I am aware of all these other companies and they are all terrible
ways to operate. As a software company you just don't say:
"Hey - we have a program that's full of bugs - help us test it and let
us charge you while you do it and then when that's done let us sell it
to you"
Any software company that does that sucks - period! M$, Apple (they just
need to get potential revenue's figures - explains the low price) and
IBM are all criminals in this.
Am I the only one who feels like this?
Beta/preview/pre means that it is NOT properly tested. Why should anyone
contribute to a closed system that behaves like this when you can
contribute to a wonderful open system where you directly see any
benefits
AND so does the community, in an open transparent fashion?
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From: janwillem <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux
Subject: Re: Ethernet card for UNIX/Linux
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 13:00:08 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Martin Eden wrote:
> Hi everybody.
>
> I need an ethernet card for my new system. I'll dual boot Linux and FreeBSD.
> Any advice on which one to get?
>
> Thanks in advance.
Hi.
ethernet cards are easy 3com 509 or any ne2000 .
these are well supported
Gfaerie
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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I will give MS credit for one thing
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:18:53 +0000
Well, let me say that I agree with OP - Windows media
player _is_ a nice piece of software - reliable, simple
and usable. It is very - how can I phrase - Un-M$like.
Credit to them.
Does not made mp3 play lists (or it's not intuitive
as I can't do it - while in Linux (xms - or something like that) it's
a breeze)
Todd wrote:
[snip]
> Or maybe MS simply improved it. Haven't you seen the Linux kernel source
> code? Now THAT is a hack in itself.
ARE YOU MAD?
If you are saying that Linux code is bad then just ask
yourself why it is more reliable?
> > Also note that with
> > all these undocumented APIs,
>
> Name *one* undocumented API that WMP uses... I'd be very curious since the
> codebase is exactly the same as that used on Windows 2000...
...fair challenge...
> > WM player probably has all kinds of priority
> > hacks to the scheduler to make it better.
I doubt it.
> > But, I'd like to think of unix as
> > the best possible ALL-AROUND, general-purpose OS, while Windows, pretty
> much,
> > is only good for games and video, and other multimedia crap.
>
> The reasons most people use personal computers.
why am I agreeing with you?
Yes - media is WHAT LINUX should kick arse at.
> > Please don't get me wrong here, I'm a unix lover and MS hater.
>
> Why are you an MS hater? You acknowledge that they do some things better,
> but you still hate them?? Are you a hypocrite?
Now a general Unix-Guru "typical" attitude rant:
M$ sometimes does good things - many Linux people do not acknowledge
this.
M$ ideas are in **our** system - Gnome corba model was inspired DIRECTLY
from
the com object model.
An idea - is an idea - steal the best, dump the rest. It's source
matters not.
Many people are active in getting things improved and you may be
surprised
at their attitudes - have a listen:
http://www.technetcast.com/tnc_play.m3u?stream_id=314
Some people want to do things "right", not just do things
because M$ has done them a different way. This attitude SUCKS
and we'll stick with a 25 year old lame way of working- the world has
moved on.
We now think about "users", not just people like us who
don't mind lots of reading. "Users" use - most don't care - nor
should they!
And from the users perspective - it is junk. Does not matter
how "clever" it _can_ be if you know what you are doing. It
needs a good old shake up.
Note that I am _not_ talking about the kernel (it is a marvel), just the
unix way of programming support - which so needs the gnome solutions.
Printing, communication, code-reuse - all the issues that Gnome
addresses
are crying out for people to develop. Look at all the fuss of Kylix
(delphi
on Linux) and then ask why? Gnome is my pet love - I think it will
revolutionise the
way Linux can reach people and Linux will spread and become a tool
of enablement. Not just for us geeks.
> > But, I try to
> > call the shots as I see them. Windows Media Player may be bloated, but
> it's
> > a damn good app for mpeg video.
>
> It's a lot more than that... probably why you call it 'bloated'. It has a
> ton of features...
I don't think it's bloated - why? It plays my media and I don't need
10 million programs and converters. Converters are dynamic plug-ins
so I don't worry about a huge program - only when I _need_ it.
I feel much better now. After logging into a Sun with no BASH
and a STUPID window manager, I just needed a Unix rant.
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From: Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:31:40 GMT
David Brown wrote:
>
> Giuliano Colla wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >David Brown wrote:
> >>
> >> Giuliano Colla wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >[...]
> >> >
> >> >Tomorrow I'm going to attend a seminar on Kylix, the Linux version of
> >> >Delphi. The participation has been so high that they've been obliged to
> >> >split it in two days. Three more seminars in other italian towns.
> >> >For Windows CE one seminar in Italy was enough. Good attendance, but
> >> >many empty places (good to put documentation in the nearby seat).
> >>
> >> Can you let us know how Kylix is doing? I use Delphi a lot on NT, so the
> >> thought of running it on Linux is definitely interesting.
> >
> >I figure you're not asking general information such as you may find at
> >http://www.borland.com/kylix/
> >My impressions from the seminar have been quite good, and the audience
> >in general seemed favorably impressed.
> >Basically you have the same IDE, the same editor, much the same objects,
> >etc. At the beginning the guy asked the audience how many were already
> >Delphi users, and seeing almost all hands up said "Well, in that case
> >the seminar may end just here. If you're using Delphi, Kylix is the
> >same." What was shown after proved him almost right.
> >If you have some specific question, I'll be glad to answer (if I can, of
> >course). Otherwise, I hope in a few weeks to start using it, and then
> >I'll be able to give first hand impressions.
>
> Sounds good. I have been interested in Kylix for a while, but I don't have
> the time to go into real depths or try it out right now. But it is good to
> hear positive opinions from an independant source. When you start using it,
> you can let us know how it works in practice, and how it compares to other
> IDEs on Linux. Thanks!
You're welcome.
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From: BillyG. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "Linux Usage Linked to AMD Damage" - MSN R&D Division Customer Alert
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 04:47:43 -0800
Customer Alert:
As Chief Architect for MSN R&D, I must finally answer, clarify and perhaps
offer appropriate solutions to the dangers involved in running Linux on AMD
processors. Many concerned customers have written statements similar to
the following: "Lately, I have heard many [... censored ...] things about
linux in the news. But, is it true that Linux can cause damage to AMD
Athlon chips?"
Yes, this certainly is the case. That's why care and vigilance must be
applied to the maintenance of AMD chips. Go to
http://rd.msn.com/linux-shortcomings/amd/default.asp and purchase the
latest version of WinCoolant.exe and install. WinCoolant.exe will help you
monitor your CPU's coolant level. If low, WinCoolant will notify you via
MSN email. The authorized way to check for leaks is to place a piece of
MSN-Certified Cardboard (#MSN-9735674cb) under your computer and wait
overnight. Then, look for reddish wet spots. To replace lost coolant,
carefully mix a 30-40-30% solution of purified water - ethylenstugel* -
butilpharol phenuxum*. Use only XP-HygroGauge Ver2.4 (#MSN-7725943hg) to
verify concentration ratio. Refill the heat-exchanger through the nozzle**
located on back of motherboard. Check the level again with XPDipstick
Ver4.6 or WinCoolant and refill if needed.
-Billy G
Chief Architect, MSN R&D
*Proprietary Coolant Solution distributed solely by MSN R&D - a Division of
Microsoft Corp, Redmond WA (Only available to MSN customers on 5-year
service agreement).
**Coolant Nozzle on CPU may be locked. See your nearest MSN dealer for
purchase of nozzle-key. (Update: Nozzle-keys are only available when
bundled with XPW2K1-SE; server edition. Financing available.)
As you can see, this MSN R&D patented heat exchanger system is not only a
CPU Cooling System upgrade; it's a Lifestyle Upgrade.
+++This press-release in no way acknowledges the existence of leaky
MSN-CPU-Cooler gaskets. In case of MSN-Lab-Verified leaky gaskets, we will
work quickly to make available the necessary Service-Package within six
months. Pricing on the Service-Package will be determined at time of
release.
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux is dieing
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:49:12 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:58:01 -0500, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But those who are ignorant of
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> economics are surprised when the same thing happens in
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> California in the 21st century that happened in the Roman
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Empire a couple of thousand years ago.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Did the Romans have price controls?
Just curious.
Peter
--
In the 19th century surveyors measured the height of Everest
from 500 miles away in India.
This cannot be done today. Everest is no longer visible from
the survey location due to increased atmospheric pollution.
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