Linux-Advocacy Digest #211, Volume #32 Thu, 15 Feb 01 13:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: This is astonishing (MS/DRM/Hardware Control) (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: I will give MS credit for one thing (pip)
Re: ERIK FUNKENBUSH CAN'T TELL US ***WHAT*** .NET IS (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Security bug in mozilla on multi user system [linux] (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (T. Max Devlin)
Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"! (T. Max Devlin)
Re: User Interfaces in the world of Linux... (T. Max Devlin)
Re: This is astonishing (MS/DRM/Hardware Control) (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Windows ME doesn't BSOD on me (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?) (T. Max Devlin)
Re: The Windows guy. (Aaron Kulkis)
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: This is astonishing (MS/DRM/Hardware Control)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:22:26 -0500
Ian Pulsford wrote:
>
> Flacco wrote:
> >
> > > I think that'll go for many, many people. Just hastens the day the world
> > > becomes Microsoft free.
> >
> > Unfortunately the Linux community thinks this will happen without catering
> > to current MS addicts' needs.
> >
> > A targeted "Windows Migration" distro is really needed in order to
> > capitalize on MS's heavy-handedness here.
>
> Yes, there seems to be a huge gap between reality (the 90%+-
> stranglehold of M$ on your average non-IT person's household PC) and the
> frequent claims of the demise of M$ just around the corner from many
> people in this group. Long way to go before that is likely to happen
> boys. Sorry just looking at the reality of the situation.
The Reality of the situation is that most home systems are dictated
by whatever the adults use at work.
When the workplace goes Linux....the households will soon follow.
>
> IanP
>
> --
> "Dear someone you've never heard of,
> how is so-and-so. Blah blah.
> Yours truly, some bozo." - Homer Simpson
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:18:59 -0500
Dave Martel wrote:
>
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 06:46:29 +0100, "Peter T. Breuer"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >In comp.os.linux.misc Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 04:36:06 GMT, "Peter T. Breuer"
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>>Agreed. It is after all, very difficult to program a computer using
> >>>religious beliefs as a basis for your programming. I tend to view that
> >>>as evidence that scientific belief is qualitatively different, since
> >>>believing in scientific principles like observation, no-interpretation,
> >>>experiment, hypothesiis formation and refutation, does help you program
> >>>a computer.
> >
> >> Computers were designed using science so it's not surprising you need
> >> science to program them. Try using science to make sense of something
> >
> >I don't really think you disagree. Your point is also that the domains in
> >which these thinkings take place are different. (not that I agree that
> >your argument has any bearing :-)
>
> Yep. Just a matter of using the right programming language for the
> job. <g>
>
> >
> >> created using religion or philosophy. Say, the Book of Tao? :-)
> >
> > ... or that talking AI program that imitates a psychologist by taking
> >the words out of whatever sentences you said last, remodelling and
> >repeating them back to you in the form of a question?
> >
> >Peter
>
> A long long time ago I found a "tech support" website that claimed
> there were real people online waiting to help you with your technical
> problems totally for free. It sounded too good to be true so I knew
> something was up. It still took about about five minutes of never
> quite getting anywhere to figure out I was talking a modified version
> of Eliza rather than a real human.
Tooooooo funny.
>
> Unfortunately the site disappeared one day. Too bad, I used to send
> all my friends there. Heh heh!
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I will give MS credit for one thing
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:18:08 +0000
Todd wrote:
[snip]
> If using 2000... here is where you find that stuff...
>
> HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
yes - this is where i looked - but could not see it.
I think my windows is buggered - I was going to re-install it (AGAIN).
> Also, check out a utility called 'started' - start editor. It allows you to
> edit *every* place anything could possibly start up under Windows 2000... I
> believe I got this from either cnet.com or www.sysinternals.com.
Sounds useful - I will thanks!
[snip]
> > I have in fact.
> > It seems OK to me - clear, concise and to the point.
> > Comments are valid (most of the time).
> > Interfaces are clear.
> >
> > Would you beg to differ?
>
> Yes :)
>
> However, given that I have never seen any Win32 kernel code (except for MS
> drivers), I don't have much to compare it with... MS stuff seems damn well
> coded (at least what I have seen).
If they were coded well then Win95 would not have had a timer overflow.
That is dumb. I am sure there are many other examples.
> It ain't perfect, but I thought it the structure was better than the Linux
> source code that I have looked at.
Well I have never seen win32 kernel code so I can't comment. What
I do know is that it is less reliable than Linux. That tells
me directly that the source code is poor under win32 - does not
matter how it "looks".
> Given that Linux is free, and it is stable for the most part, it must be a
> testiment to the code... it just didn't *look* good.
quite so
> > > BTW, Linux *has* crashed on me or forced me to reboot... either way,
> that is
> > > undesirable.
> >
> > Linux has _never_ crashed on me. Maybe I am lucky.
>
> You don't run Netscape? :)
Oh yes - Netscape crashes with regularity - but Linux does not.
> DX 8 has come a long way since DX 3.0 when D3D was a mess... it is so easy
> to program for it is actually *fun* now... more so than OpenGL with regards
> to 3D programming. DirectSound ROCKS when taken full advantage of, and
> works for every sound card... very nice.
I have done a bit of Direct X programming and I have liked it.
> I would LOVE to see Linux get DX... that would be a great MS contribution.
> (And keep the drivers as close as possible too so that 3rd parties can
> easily create them).
Yes.
> > For me cross-platform source compatibility is a _really- big deal.
> > I am currently looking at QT because of this.
>
> If you aren't using multi-media, is Java a good choice then? Seems that
> Java runs on most platforms these days, and it has matured fairly nicely.
> Since I don't need to do cross platform stuff, I mostly write in Win32 or
> back-end Javascript (now possible as it is one of W2k's native scripting
> languages - very nice).
>
Well, I am primarily a Java programmer so yes it is a good choice. But I
am
also a realist and for many applications it is not suitable. As a
language,
Java (IMHO) is far better than C or C++. I am of course biased.
------------------------------
From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: ERIK FUNKENBUSH CAN'T TELL US ***WHAT*** .NET IS
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:32:38 GMT
Said Chad Myers in alt.destroy.microsoft on Tue, 13 Feb 2001 02:00:22
>"chrisv" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >> To you, sir, I say, "wake up and smell the coffee".
>> >
>> >BLACK HELIOCOPTERS! HERE THEY COME, RUN FOR COVER!
>>
>> Yep, we're all paranoid. Microsoft doesn't really want to monopolize
>> things. They don't want to maximize the amount of money they make.
>
>You make it to seem like they have a secret army that will invade
>your house if you don't buy their products.
>
>Give me a break. Go back to the looney bin where you came from.
Bwah-ha-ha-ha.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Security bug in mozilla on multi user system [linux]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:32:40 GMT
Said Thorsten Moellers in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon, 12 Feb 2001
21:05:06 +0100;
>At Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:53:52 GMT T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote in comp.os.linux.advocacy:
>
>> Precisely. So like I said, you need to get the environment, not just
>> the permissions, of the new user. So use 'su - user' instead of 'su
>> user', and see if it works. If so, its a work-around, even if its
>> inconvenient or even simply annoying.
>>
>> >If I forgot any other possibility wich might lead to this result, I
>> >would be very interested to hear about...
>>
>> TBH, I'm not really following the details you're posting, but I think I
>> understand the basic issue you're describing, and it does seem odd
>> behavior. Its just that, based on a few years experience with Unix, I'd
>> try 'su -' in this situation. Let me know if it works.
>I already triead
>'su - peek',
>'telnet -l peek localhost'.
>
>I even tried
>'su -l peek',
>all with the same result.
>
>And the last thing to mention about the behavior is:
>If another user can access my read-protected bookmarks just by
>setting up his environment like mine is, it is a security
>hole also.
Well, apparently they don't; they gain access simply by running on the
same host, from what you describe, right? Sounds like a pretty grievous
problem for Netscape; thanks for the heads-up. What's "-l", btw?
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
------------------------------
From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:32:41 GMT
Said Pete Goodwin in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:44:49
>T. Max Devlin wrote:
>
>> >Which has got nothing to do with what I was talking about.
>>
>> Then why did you make it the subject line of your post?
>
>Ah, I see what you mean now. You know, I lump Linux together with The Gimp
>as a complete package. I could make it a series of discrete packages but it
>seems easier not to.
That's so asinine as to be unbelievable. You knew the program you used
was Gimp. Find me a real user who doesn't know what a program is.
>Ah but I keep forgetting. Linux isn't a large amorphous, it's the base
>system. On top of which you have, The Gimp, KDE, GNOME, etc. All pulling in
>different directions, all following their own thing...
Yea, kind of like every other computer system. See how that works.
>> >Are all your posts just so much noise?
>>
>> Are all your posts so vapid?
>
>Are all yours so stupid?
Dufus.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
------------------------------
From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:32:43 GMT
Said [EMAIL PROTECTED] in comp.os.linux.advocacy on 12 Feb 2001
22:15:02 GMT;
>Pete Goodwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>> Ive been posting to COLA for yea unto 4 years, you pasty
>>> bitch.
>>>
>>> YOU go away.
>
>> You've had your proof. Now, you could be gracious about it and concede, or
>> you could be a complete prick and continue as you are.
>
>Concede what? I forgot what we were arguing about. Reminders are due.
Pete said "I'm not the only one commenting on troubles about Mandrake
here." You said "you and flatfish." He posted urls (now unfortunately
useless) to deja articles by others; I don't know what newsgroup they
were, or whether they were trolls.
>> Which is it?
>
>Remind me about what we were arguing about and ill tell you.
As usual, Pete is technically correct, in that he is not the only person
to complain about Mandrake, while being trivially mistaken in his point
that he and flatfish and most probably the author of the posts he cited
are just trolling.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
------------------------------
From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:32:44 GMT
Said Pete Goodwin in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Mon, 12 Feb 2001 21:51:58
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> And you then sent the Epson's command language to a queue that expects
>> Postscript. And it didn't work. Big surprise!
>
>Then I would expect garbage, not a picture with red lines on it.
That's really pretty funny.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
------------------------------
From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Another Linux "Oopsie"!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:32:45 GMT
Said [EMAIL PROTECTED] in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue, 13 Feb 2001
>On Mon, 12 Feb 2001 23:59:46 +0100, Mig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Do you know how Epsons command language works?
>>Nope i dont thin so.
>
>He doesn't have to.
>He runs Windows and selects "Epson" from a menu and it works.
In theory. Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha! Because we know it FAILS MORE THAN ANY
OTHER PUTATIVELY COMPETITIVE OPERATING SYSTEM EVER MADE! Bwah-ha-ha-ha!
>>Face it Pete... you cannot save yourself out of this one. You made a
>>beginners error and are stuck with it !!
>
>Yea, running Linux in the first place :)
Wow, you're a funny guy.
Oops, sorry, I meant "dull".
Bwah-ha-ha-ha-ha!
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
------------------------------
From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: User Interfaces in the world of Linux...
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:32:46 GMT
Said [EMAIL PROTECTED] in comp.os.linux.advocacy on Tue, 13 Feb
2001 01:50:37 +0100;
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> To each his own, that's why X windows leaves the
>> choice up to you - I prefer focus follows mouse and
>> autoraise, I hate having to explicitly click on a window
>> to make it active.
>
>I presume you are referring to Microsoft Windows here. If you use
>focus follows mouse or sloppy focus under X you don't have to
>raise a window to make it active. Personally I hate autoraise
>but that is just my opinion. At least we have the choice as usual.
If you have focus follows mouse on, but autoraise off, does clicking on
the window raise the window?
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: This is astonishing (MS/DRM/Hardware Control)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:33:54 -0500
Tom Wilson wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Flacco"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> >> I think that'll go for many, many people. Just hastens the day the
> >> world becomes Microsoft free.
> >
> > Unfortunately the Linux community thinks this will happen without
> > catering to current MS addicts' needs.
> >
> > A targeted "Windows Migration" distro is really needed in order to
> > capitalize on MS's heavy-handedness here.
>
> Sounds like a twelve-step program of some kind is in order...
>
> "Hi, I'm Bill, and I'm a Windowholic"
>
> "Hi Bill"
>
> The last time I brought this up I got my ass reamed, but here goes...
> There has to be a simpler, dumbed down Windows-like GUI system for these
> people or it ain't gonna happen.
They already exist.
There's no requirement to duplicate Windows' inconsistancies.
>
> --
> Tom Wilson
> Sunbelt Software Solutions
> Presently lurking in his Linux Partition
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy,comp.unix.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: KULKIS IS A MISERABLE PIECE OF SHIT
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:34:17 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Aaron R. Kulkis writes:
>
> > Tholen, David
> > 1505 Alexander St,
> > Honolulu, HI 96822-4978
> > (808)941-3552
> >
> > Tholen, David
> > Alexander St Apt 406, Honolulu, HI
> > 96822
>
> Of what relevance is that, Kulkis?
Proof of your existance, Volcano food.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows ME doesn't BSOD on me
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:36:30 -0500
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> Simply amazing. Rather than believe that MS could possibly improve the
> quality of it's code, you'd rather believe it to be some kind of "trick".
>
It's not question of whether it is "possible" or not...it's a question
of whether it HAS or HAS NOT been improved.
Given Microsoft's past performance, I'm betting on the latter.
> You can't just remove exception handling. An exception happens for a
> reason. Divide by zero could handled, but things like access violations are
> simply meaningless. You start executing nonsense code and it has nowhere to
> go.
>
> "Donn Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > You know, this is pretty funny. I never had a BSOD since I installed
> Windows
> > ME. I was thinking "Damn, what did MS do to make this thing more stable
> > than Win 98?" Then, it occurred to me: what do you want to bet that MS
> just
> > removed some or all of the code that causes a BSOD to occur? LOL, this is
> > the equivalent of removing all the panic() calls in a unix system.
> >
> > So, I suppose that's one way to prevent an unstable OS from crashing:
> just
> > remove all the exception handling, and let the OS screw up your system
> > naturally or lock up on its own.
> >
> > Anyone else notice this? And here, I thought NE truly WAS more stable.
> Like
> > David Copperfield, MS pulled an illusion. And does anyone else here think
> > Bill Gates is a lot like P. T. Barnum? Think about that.
> >
> >
> > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =-----
> > http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!
> > -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NTFS Limitations (Was: RE: Red hat becoming illegal?)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 17:37:39 GMT
Said Chad Myers in alt.destroy.microsoft on Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:02:53
[...]
>You'll also remember that Corel has decided to back off from the
>Linux business for awhile and has started working with Microsoft
>to build WordPerfect.NET and several other .NET applications.
>The report was that 5 or 6 Corel developers were working on the
>.NET CLR for Linux.
You'll also remember that Microsoft owns a fairly large portion of
Corel. Guffaw.
>> >> Your rosy view of .NET assumes that they will be able to overcome all of
>> >> the same problems Java faces, but because they are Microsoft it'll all
>> >> be a cakewalk. That they will play fair and not try to use their
>> >> control of the platform to favor their own interests. Basically, nobody
>> >> but die-hard MS-lovers believes either one of those things any more.
>> >
>> >Java's problem was Sun. They killed it with their management.
>>
>> It's dead now?
>
>It's floundering, lost in a sea of misdirection, at least.
Yea, right. Guffaw.
--
T. Max Devlin
*** The best way to convince another is
to state your case moderately and
accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Windows guy.
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:38:05 -0500
Donn Miller wrote:
>
> Brent R wrote:
>
> > Let's not forget re-direction, a very useful UNIX attribute!
>
> Re-direction is a property of the unix shell, not the kernel. For
> example, stderr & stdout redirection behave identically under the WinDOS
> version of bash as well as the unix version. In fact, I was able to
> redirect output to /dev/null under the Cygwin port of bash, although
> there was no /dev/null physically present! Damn, there must be a hack
> under Windows such that any output directed to /dev/null is
> automatically sent to NULL:, or whatever Windows uses for the "null
> device". Well, not in general, but just the bash port, I meant.
It's easier to just make it a "built in" pseudo-file that redirects
back to the shell, which just disposes of it.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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