Linux-Advocacy Digest #256, Volume #32 Sat, 17 Feb 01 02:13:04 EST
Contents:
Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: ReiserFS (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Interesting article (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Interesting article (Charlie Ebert)
Re: Wy Linux will/is failing on the desktop (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else) (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Interesting article (J Sloan)
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Whistler/.NET will Help Linux
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 01:39:41 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Flacco wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > The market will speak on this. MS can't force people.
> >> >>
> >> >> ...unless they manage to outlaw open source software.
> >>
> >> > That's impossible in the US.
> >>
> >> > First Amendment.
> >>
> >> McCarthy hearings.
> >>
> >> Not only is it possible, but it has happened, is happening,
> >> and will happen again.
>
> > McCarthy never abridged free speech.
>
> No he didnt. But if you associated with people who were known
> to talk about communism in public, your career was over, and very
> often you were sent to prison.
Good.
Communism is the most EVIL philosophy ever conjured up in history.
Worldwide, Communist governments have slaughtered over 120 MILLION
of their own citizens (that we know of) in a mere 8 decades.
No other political philosophy comes close to this level of barbarism.
>
> So you could SAY what you wanted, you would simply be imprisoned
> for it.
Anybody advocating the overthrow of the US constitution should
be locked up....And if it's wartime, I fully support death by
being drawn and quartered for such slime.
>
> > By the way...not only was McCarthy right about communist
> > infiltration of the State Department....he under-stated
> > the problem by nearly an order of magnitude.
>
> Really? Did he have to kill the careers of 800 hollywood personalities
> who did nothing more than TALK to communists to do it?
>
> Fascism is ugly whether its american or not.
FALSE DICHOTOMY.
TYPICAL COMMUNIST BULLSHIT...anybody who opposed the radical
left must be a fascist.
This is like saying that anything that isn't on fire must
be freezing in liquid nitrogen.
The lesser of two evils is still EVIL...
Pull your goddamned head out of your ass and quit supporting
evil of ANY sort.
There *ARE* alternatives between fascism and communism.
One of them is called FREEDOM...which, if you and your
socialist asshole friends would shut up....would flourish
once again in America.
>
> -----.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ReiserFS
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 01:40:27 -0500
Tim wrote:
>
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:49:12 -0500, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Well, I tried it. It is interesting, but no thanks. It seems slower than ext2
> >for most everything I do.
>
> Duh!
>
> http://www.moelabs.com/jfs_faq.html
>
> [...]
> Q: How fast is JFS compared to ext2?
>
> A: Folks, there is no way around it: journaling is slower inherently
> compared to
> non-journaling file systems. Some code has to make for the added
> security and
> that code slows down I/O operations. The good news is that not even
> ext2fs is
> as fast as it could be theoretically, so JFS tries to improve things
> by being fast
> at basic I/O operations, be they for journaling or for data.
> [...]
Plus additional disk activity to maintain the journal.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 01:44:24 -0500
Chad Myers wrote:
>
> "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:96jg3p$9hn$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:MEaj6.27470$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > < Perm bits
> > > are ancient, a poor design, and are really unsecure.
> >
> > Describ a way to get over permissions in any *nix that implement perm bits
> > (all of them).
>
> You're not understanding what I'm saying...
>
> It's the mentality. Permission bits are extremely limiting, as they
> only allow one owner, one group, and everyone else.
>
> Secondly, permissions are not applied pervasively. That is, they're
> only applied to files and file/devices. You can't set an ACL on
> whether or not someone can access a specific porition of a file,
> you can't set permissions on whether or not a particular process
> can perform specific functions with the OS.
>
> Secondly, this is a little off of perm bits, but related, there's
> almost no auditing, or not serious auditing in Linux, for example
> and in many Unixes. The Unixes that have DAC have a full auditing
> scheme. In fact, that's a requirement of DAC is to verify that
> permissions are applied properly and that users are not circumventing
> the intent of the permissions.
>
> Perm bits, as agreed by anyone who has a basic understanding of
> secure OS implementations, are kindergarten-level, and are insecure
> by nature.
As opposed to MS-DOS, Windows 3.1, Windows3.11, Windows95, Windows98,
and WindowsME
>
> -Chad
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Reply-To: Charlie Ebert:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 06:47:50 GMT
In article <96l491$2td$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Todd wrote:
>
>The bottom line is this: The guys running the shops who need to make a
>living *know* that consumers would balk at Linux... heck, Linux doesn't even
>have a decent browser!
>
>Don't blame Linux' problems on MS. Linux is an open system and its problems
>are not in anyway MS' fault.
>
>-Todd
>
>
No I won't Todd. And you can tell Microsoft they can't blame their
fucking problems on Linux nor OPEN SOURCE as they've been mouthing
off in the media the last 2 weeks about.
But I will say your totally full of shit on your OS comments about
CANNED DRIVES. Microsoft currently has a commission on every hard
drive built today such that, even if you ordered it with NO OS installed,
they get a percentage of the sale of that drive. THUS - their OS is FREE!
And some stores even have the balls enough to charge for 2000 - ME beyond
this! And that's a double take my freinds!
--
Charlie
**DEBIAN** **GNU**
/ / __ __ __ __ __ __ __
/ /__ / / / \/ / / /_/ / \ \/ /
/_____/ /_/ /_/\__/ /_____/ /_/\_\
http://www.debian.org
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wy Linux will/is failing on the desktop
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 01:47:56 -0500
Todd wrote:
>
> "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:96kd2o$3gf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <ox7j6.28893$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Paul
> > Dossett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > "Mike Martinet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> > > message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> Before I spent much time in this NG, I would have agreed with you. But
> > >> just yesterday I read something that's near and dear to my heart -
> > >> Linux can play several MP3's at once. I had just assumed that the
> > >> inability of Windows to output a ding-dong sound when something went
> > >> wrong while I was listening to a WAV or an MP3 was a hardware
> > >> limitation. It's not. The OS is simply not flexible enough to handle
> > >> two inputs to the same piece of hardware simultaneously. Someone then
> > >> posted a pretty funny question - "Why would you want to run several
> > >> MP3's at once? The din must be horrible" - and I had to laugh. But, I
> > >> love to seque songs. One of the main things I do with my Windows OS is
> > >> compilation recording. To date, all I've used my Linux machine for is
> > >> server tasks; mail, firewall, gateway, etc. But now I'm going to have
> > >> to take some time and fool around with the desktop just so I can look
> > >> into these claims.
> > >
> > > Um, my Windows box plays several MP3s at once without any problem.
> > > Perhaps your hardware is not up to the task? Most modern soundcards
> > > will mix up to
> > > 64 streams of audio IN HARDWARE, and yes, Windows does allow it.
> > >
> > > Unless of course my Windows box is MAGICAL.
> >
> >
> > Why do you play several MP3s at once? It must sound truly awful. Please
> > explain this to me.
>
> Duh. It's not that he *does*, it's that he *can*. Or more importantly,
> that Windows 2000 can. Easily.
>
Big fucking deal. Playing an MP3 is a trivial task....pushing 16-bit
numbers at a rate of 44kHz is something even a low-end 386 machine
should
be able to handle SEVERAL TIMES OVER with ease.
That's like getting all excited that a baby can swallow food.
> -Todd
>
> >
> > -Ed
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Did you know that the reason that windows steam up in cold|Edward Rosten
> > weather is because of all the fish in the atmosphere? |u98ejr
> > - The Hackenthorpe Book of lies |@
> > |eng.ox.ac.uk
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Politics (was Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else)
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 01:51:39 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 16:05:39 -0500, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> On Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:45:14 -0500, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Bloody Viking wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Walt wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> : In Los Angeles, thousands of illegal immigrants, along with people in
> >> >> : local cemeteries, registered and voted in recent elections. And of
> >> >> : course, they voted overwhelmingly Democratic.
> >> >>
> >> >> And in Florida, the GOP does the same crap. And we all know about
> >> >> the election debacle that ensued.
> >> >
> >> >So why did Gore only challenge the counts in DEMONCROOK-controlled
> >> >counties?
> >>
> >> Republican dominated counties probably didn't have hordes
> >> of upset republicans demanding a recount. If there's no
> >> uproar, there really isn't any point to Gore serving as
> >> champion.
> >>
> >> >
> >> >Is that a sign that not even a Democrat candidate can trust
> >> >a Democrat election board to do things properly?
> >> [deletia]
> >>
> >> No, you just can't see past your GOP reality filters.
> >>
> >
> >What part of LIBERTARIAN do you not understand?
>
> I understand well enough to know that the label is quite
> often total bullshit. I wasn't just hatched yesterday.
> Many Libertarians and Federalists are nothing more than
> Republicans going by a different name.
Actually, it's the other way around...a lot of people with a
Libertarian outlook call themselves Republicans.
Republicans would sooner sign up with the Jackass party before
associating with known Libertarians.
>
> [deletia]
>
> --
>
> >
> > ...then there's that NSA version of Linux...
>
> This would explain the Mars polar lander problem.
>
> Kyle Jacobs, COLA
>
> |||
> / | \
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 01:53:05 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On 16 Feb 2001 23:36:41 GMT, Steve Mading <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >In comp.os.linux.advocacy Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >: That's why Materialism is hopelessly flawed. We all know that JFK
> >: was shot, but can't repeat the experiment. How do we go about
> >: proving a historical event.
> >
> >WTF does that have to do with materialism?
>
> Whether or not JFK was shot or not is a question of history.
Nope...
the only question is...AFTER JFK was shot...how much did they pay
Oswald to keep his mouth shut after Ruby shot him with blood-packet
blanks?
>
> The techniques of historians are not the subject of this discussion.
>
> --
>
> Freedom != Anarchy.
>
> Some must be "opressed" in order for their
> actions not to oppress the rest of us.
>
> |||
> / | \
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
------------------------------
From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Interesting article
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 06:56:13 GMT
Todd wrote:
> "JamesW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > says...
> >
> > > Microsoft has already started promoting the next
> > > one (Whistler, or PX or whatever) with the promise that it
> > > will be better. They're copying Linux KDE login screen and
> > > Desktop, in order to make it at least *look* better.
> >
> > Have you seen a screenshot? XP is truly hideous.
>
> I thought it looked great. Of course, you will be able to choose which
> interface you want to use under XP, so it shouldn't matter too much...
Even if they ape some of the look and feel of Unix,
the problem is, at the end of the day, it's still just a
windows pc.
Color me skeptical, but I'm just not impressed.
jjs
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