Linux-Advocacy Digest #449, Volume #32 Sat, 24 Feb 01 11:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: RTFM at M$ (Brent R)
Re: RTFM at M$ (Norman D. Megill)
Re: Something Seemingly Simple. ("Edward Rosten")
Re: RTFM at M$ (Brent R)
Re: It's just too easy (Chris Ahlstrom)
Re: Does anyone know how much computer power we have/ ("Edward Rosten")
Re: State of linux distros ("Edward Rosten")
Re: How much do you *NEED*? (Jeff Cochran)
Re: How much do you *NEED*? ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Does anyone know how much computer power we have/ ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Does anyone know how much computer power we have/ (Brent R)
Re: Does anyone know how much computer power we have/ ("Edward Rosten")
Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited (Donovan Rebbechi)
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From: Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: RTFM at M$
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:10:25 GMT
"Norman D. Megill" wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Shane Phelps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> >Tim Hanson wrote:
> >>
> >> http://www.microsoft.com&[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pub/mskb/Q209354.asp
> >> --
> >
> >Looks like they've been h4x0r3d ;-)
>
> Wow.
>
> And this spite of the fact that they've recently become so paranoid
> they're even blocking pings:
>
> $ ping microsoft.com
> no answer from microsoft.com
>
> I guess this doesn't speak well for their $6000 per CPU enterprise
> firewall software they've just released:
>
> <http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-4819365.html>
>
> "Microsoft uncloaks new security software"
>
> "With network security concerns rising, Microsoft on Wednesday
> released new security software featuring firewall and Web-caching
> technology intended to protect corporate networks."
>
> "The Internet Security and Acceleration (ISA) server marks Microsoft's
> first significant push into the information technology security area and
> is the security piece of the software giant's .Net Enterprise Server
> product line, the company said in a statement."
>
> $ traceroute microsoft.com
> 1 lynn2-br1-fa2-0-0-1.wharf.shore.net (207.244.124.10) 234.475 ms 134.687 ms
>1.670 ms
> 2 lynn2-cr3-f0-0.wharf.shore.net (207.244.95.37) 0.661 ms 0.691 ms 0.533 ms
> 3 cmbr1-br1-s0-0-0.wharf.shore.net (207.244.95.14) 91.571 ms 224.229 ms
>105.516 ms
> 4 209.67.246.205 (209.67.246.205) 2.337 ms 2.251 ms 2.214 ms
> 5 dcr04-p0-0.wlhm01.exodus.net (64.14.70.45) 2.204 ms 3.317 ms 2.717 ms
> 6 bbr01-g1-0.wlhm01.exodus.net (64.14.70.51) 2.508 ms 2.496 ms 2.205 ms
> 7 bbr02-p2-0.okbr01.exodus.net (216.32.132.209) 24.440 ms 24.536 ms 24.622ms
> 8 bbr01-g4-0.okbr01.exodus.net (216.34.183.97) 25.595 ms 24.589 ms 24.649 ms
> 9 bbr02-p3-0.sttl01.exodus.net (216.32.132.89) 70.668 ms 71.385 ms 71.185 ms
> 10 ibr01-g5-0.sttl01.exodus.net (216.32.29.21) 71.675 ms 70.924 ms 70.845 ms
> 11 exodus-px.microsoft.com (209.185.9.238) 71.634 ms 71.953 ms 71.749 ms
> 12 207.46.190.109 (207.46.190.109) 72.108 ms 71.833 ms 72.115 ms
> 13 icpmscomc7503-a0-00-1.cp.msft.net (207.46.129.5) 72.278 ms 73.076 ms 73.179
>ms
> 14 * * * <-- this must be their ping firewall powered by ISA
>
> =======================================================================
>
> (If they have anything on the ball at all, the page will probably be
> gone by the time you read this, so here is a text extract of its
> contents for your amusement:)
>
> [top of page]
> [Microsoft Product Support Services logo]
>
> All Products | Support | Search | microsoft.com Home | Bestiality.Net
>
> Support Home | Self Support | Self Abuse | Assisted Support | Custom
> Support | Worldwide Support |
>
> [main body]
>
> HOWTO: Read the Fucking Manual
>
> The information in this article applies to:
>
> General Lamers
>
> Prerequisites:
>
> The ability to Read
> Basic Brain Function
>
> SUMMARY
>
> This article demonstrates how to read the fucking manual, as
> popularised by the RTFM directive.
>
> SYMPTOMS
>
> After asking a truly pathetic question, you are instructed to RTFM:-
>
> *** Lamer (~[EMAIL PROTECTED]) has joined #visualbasic
>
> [10:24] <Lamer> How do i [Your obvious/lame question]?
> [10:25] <@oper> RTFM bitch
>
> *** Lamer was kicked by @oper (fuckwit)
> [10:27] <VBg0d> i made a irc client!!!!!!
> *** assmaster83 (~[EMAIL PROTECTED]) invites you
> to join #animalsex
> [10:27] <Guest50468> VBg0d, c00l, i made a webbrowser!!
>
> CAUSE
>
> Lameness
>
> MORE INFORMATION
>
> Step-by-Step Procedures
>
> Locate a Manual, either in printed form or on your MSDN CD's, if
> you're a punk/bitch/h4x0r and don't have the MSDN collection on
> disk, view the online version at msdn.microsoft.com/library/
>
> Using either the Index or Search feature, locate a keyword
> relating to you're question/problem
>
> If you're using a printed manual, flip to the page(s) as detailed in
> your search of the index, alternatively, if you're using the MSDN
> library, click the link(s) in the search results window.
>
> Read the information. If you have problems understanding the
> information, read it again. Repeat until enlightenment is
> achieved.
>
> REFERENCES
>
> For additional information, please see the following articles in the
> Microsoft Knowledge Base:
>
> Q166392 HOWTO: Read
>
> Q147875 HOWTO: Apply for employment with McDonalds
> [link to http://www.mcdonalds.com/corporate/careers/index.html]
>
> Q171146 HOWTO: Convert absolutely everything to XML
>
> Q181290 HOWTO: Add a #, + or .Net to your old software
> to keep it cutting edge
>
> Q102496 INFO: How to use the HOWTO's HOWTO
> document
>
> Additional query words: XML l33t fool dumbass lamer monkey semen
> bigAl[work] Lurve god
>
> Version : 1.6�
> Platform : Thing to stand on
> Issue type : Type of Issue
> Technology : Limited
>
> Last Reviewed: February 23, 2000
> � 2000 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Terms of Use.
> New: The CorporateWarfare.net SDK for win64/Itanium
>
> [In the right-hand column:]
> Article ID: Q209354
>
> Last Reviewed:
> February 23, 2000
>
> Send to a friend
>
> Provided by
> Microsoft Product Support
> Services
>
> Send us email
> [link to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> Did the information in this
> article help answer your
> question?
>
> o I see the light!
> o Not even close
> o I can't read
>
> Please provide some more
> information we can ignore
>
> [Text input form]
> [Submit button]
>
> =======================================================================
>
> --Norm
Everything you put in a URL before the '@' symbol is ignore by the
browser! Take this URL for example:
http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
this link goes to my home page.
http://www.hwnd.net/pub/mskb/Q209354.asp is where the article really is.
It's just some little kiddies playing around (notice the #VB IRC
channel).
That's all that happened, MS was not hacked (at least not this time).
--
Happy Trails
-Brent
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Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: RTFM at M$
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Norman D. Megill)
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:19:38 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Norman D. Megill" wrote:
>>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Shane Phelps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >Tim Hanson wrote:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.microsoft.com&[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pub/mskb/Q209354.asp
>> >> --
>> >
>> >Looks like they've been h4x0r3d ;-)
>>
[snip]
>
>Everything you put in a URL before the '@' symbol is ignore by the
>browser! Take this URL for example:
>
>http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>this link goes to my home page.
>
>http://www.hwnd.net/pub/mskb/Q209354.asp is where the article really is.
>It's just some little kiddies playing around (notice the #VB IRC
>channel).
>
>That's all that happened, MS was not hacked (at least not this time).
You're right, the joke's on me.
Thanks for pointing this out.
--Norm
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: Something Seemingly Simple.
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:23:55 +0000
In article <978a64$r1q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bloody Viking"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Edward Rosten ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : Those are perfectly normal errors: you have no cos function. You need
> to
> : link against the maths library as well as #including the header.
>
> : gcc -lm ...
>
> The "0lm" trick sure did it. Just tested it on another virtual console.
> Thanks! Fun easier quesation. Why isn't it in degrees as is the
> standard?
Radians are a much more natural measure (and are standard in a lot of
mathematics).
Here is an illustration of why they are more `natural'. If you were to
work out a McLaurin series for the purposes of, say calculating a cosine:
cos(x) = 1 - x^2 /2! + x^4/4! - x^6/6! + ...
it works correctly if you put in radians. Degrees are a unit invented
to make it easier to visualise.
Try defining a macro
#define dcos(X) cos(X*180/ M_PIl)
etc.
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From: Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: RTFM at M$
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:29:41 GMT
"Norman D. Megill" wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >"Norman D. Megill" wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> Shane Phelps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Tim Hanson wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.microsoft.com&[EMAIL PROTECTED]/pub/mskb/Q209354.asp
> >> >> --
> >> >
> >> >Looks like they've been h4x0r3d ;-)
> >>
> [snip]
> >
> >Everything you put in a URL before the '@' symbol is ignore by the
> >browser! Take this URL for example:
> >
> >http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >this link goes to my home page.
> >
> >http://www.hwnd.net/pub/mskb/Q209354.asp is where the article really is.
> >It's just some little kiddies playing around (notice the #VB IRC
> >channel).
> >
> >That's all that happened, MS was not hacked (at least not this time).
>
> You're right, the joke's on me.
> Thanks for pointing this out.
>
> --Norm
SPAMMERS use that trick a lot. There's also some way to enter in URL as
octal, hex, and binary numbers but I forget how; and there's a way to
'comment out' characters in the middle of addresses.
Why browsers allow this is beyond me.
--
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-Brent
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From: Chris Ahlstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: It's just too easy
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:29:41 GMT
Jeff, Cochran wrote:
>
> I have. Building a system to work as a NAT/Router. Redhat 6.1. New
> install, new system, all supported hardware. Two Intel Pro/100 NIC's.
> For the life of me, could not get Redhat to recognize the second NIC,
> even with tech support from Redhat and numerous newgroup suggestions.
> Blew away the Linux setup I'd been fustrated with for six days,
> dropped a W2K Adv. Server CD in the drive, turned the system on and 45
> minutes later it was routing and NAT'ing just fine, with no software
> other than what was on the Microsoft CD and all I had to do was enter
> IP addressing and routing information.
With RedHat 6.2, I was able to do what you tried, very easily.
Chris
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does anyone know how much computer power we have/
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:30:25 +0000
> These numbers were assigned within the industry to prevent confusion for
> electrical engineers. By merely looking at the first two digits of a
> chip, you can tell which manufacturer is the "authoritative source" for
> the logical function of any chip.
>
> 65 - Mostek
> 68 - Motorola
> 74 - Fairchild
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 80 - Intel
That was true, but after a while every man and his dog were making 74xx
series chips, which were pin compatible with the origional ones (the 74xx
series was the TTL general purpose logic chip series wasn't it?)
-Ed
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: State of linux distros
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:32:18 +0000
In article <TSOl6.929$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Reefer"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Aaron Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> skrev i meddelandet
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
>> Only an idiot relegates perfectly good hardware to the dustbin just
>> because some Asshole in Redmond, Washington decrees it so
>
>
>
> hardware from the late 80's is not "perfectly good hardware"
If it does what you need it to, then it is perfectly good. Late 80s
hardware is perfect for low end jobs such as fire walls, routers,
print/mail servers etc. Why shell out �1000 for a new print server when
you have a good one hanging around?
-Ed
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From: Jeff Cochran
Subject: Re: How much do you *NEED*?
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 10:35:54 -0500
>How many more examples are going to have to appear and go by to
>convince you that Linux is the right choice for your business
>and personal needs?
>If your a Windows user you face the following things.
>#1. You have to pay for your software.
> The price of your software is going up all the time.
I can afford to and am willing to pay for software. Free isn't an
issue. Yes, I'd like to not pay for licensing, or not pay as much,
but overall the licensing of the OS is a very small part of my budget.
Apps licensing, Microsoft Office, Exchange, etc. is a much larger
part. So far I don't see a viable option there. And no, Star Office
doesn't cut it.
Proprietary software also often dictates my spending. I have apps we
need which require MS-SQL on NT. So we buy MS-SQL on NT. With a half
million invested in apps such as these, switching isn't an option, and
the cost of NT/SQL is a minimal protion of the overall application.
>#2. Your Windows OS is unreliable.
> You can break Windows by installing a driver which
> isn't ready for prime time. Or how about just
> running your favorite app for too long a period of time.
> Just forgetting to reboot your machine every couple of days
> will cause it to crash. And your paying for this insult
> to your intelligence.. That is a shame.
This has not been our experience. It may be true for others, but it
doesn't work as an argument when it just isn't true in our instance.
Besides, you're justifying Linux on the desktop with this, and it just
isn't a desktop OS. Sorry.
>#3. If your a developer for Windows, you end up having to join
> the Microsoft Slave trade. You have to certify and then
> re-certify for your certificate every time Windows comes
> out with a new OS or new application. Microsoft can
> DEEM your re-certification at *THEIR* whim! And *YOU* have
> to *PAY* or loose your certification. And even if you *PAY*
> and you *PASS* you can still be denyed your certification
> as Microsoft has the final right to revoke it without reason
> or cause.
And I'd have 95% of the world's market available, as opposed to a few
companies exploring the waters of a new OS in the shop and millions of
Open Source junkies who wouldn't buy my application anyway.
>#4. Viruses in the form of VB scripts non-the-less! Isn't it
> amazing that Microsoft Windows has been sucessfully attacked
> by over 100 different types of VB script viruses sent in thru
> E-mails and *YET TODAY* Microsoft Corp has yet to admit a fix
> needs to be installed to help prevent the damage. They haven't
> even admitted it's a problem! How incredible. And your the
> stupid shit who's forking out the bucks for *THEIR* system...
I have yet to be hit by a VBS virus. In the real world, you protect
your systems. Except for the occasional rogue user who tries to
install their kid's school project on their system, we don't get
viruses.
>#5. .NET --- .NET means that every peice of software you install
> on your machine from here on out will be reported and enabled
> via Microsoft HQ. They will know everything you know on your
> machine with Windows XP and beyond. I don't know a soul in
> North America who hasn't stolen Microsoft Applications at
> one time or another. Some people have many stolen Microsoft
> Applications they borrowed from a freind, school pals, rich
> business millionaires who are too cheap to pay for licenses...
> All these kind people will end up getting a dick rammed up
> their butts so hard it will just make their heads pop off.
> What an incredible assfucking/jail time scenerio they are
> all headed for. This is worse than cop killer rap.
Wow! No coffee yet? That's a strong statement about an OS/Initiative
that has simply been announced and isn't anywhere near implementation.
It's also somewhat misinformed as well. Personally, if a user is
forced to pay for a product instead of stealing it, it doesn't really
bother me.
>#6. Your OS is totally insecure. If communist Chineese can
> steal all the source code from Microsoft HQ in Redmond,
> right under their fucking noses, then why on earth do
> you think your checkbook is safe? I mean, they stole
> code from Microsoft for 4-6 weeks and were never discovered.
> This is because Microsoft Windows Security is so lame, hacking
> it is like stealing candy from a baby. I hear people boast
> about how secure Windows products are every day. I'd like
> to say that they are all dumbasses and don't know their asshole
> from a hole in the ground.
> Explain Why Redmond got ripped off for over a month and nobody
> heard a single alarm bell go off? Microsoft HQ in Redmond...
> Why.... Do you think your better then they are? If you are
> why aren't you writing a fucking OS?
Nice try. No OS is secure. The administration of it is secure. If
that's your argument, I'd be using BSD instead of Linux.
>Linux is the exact opposite. It's GPL'd so you can copy those CD's on every
>machine you have including work without fear of being thrown in some prison
>and owning somebody a 1/4 million dollars in fines. It's uptimes have
>been measured in years not days. When an application dies in Linux the OS
>doesn't crash, just the application. Linux will run on hardware sucessfully
>and for long durations where Windows 2000 can't even get installed. Linux
>is an extremely secure OS with patches for known security problems released
>in timely fashions, ususally well within 2 weeks of being reported.
>
>You do not have to pay dues or be licensed to write code for Linux.
>No one can steal Linux as it's the property of the world so it's less of
>a target to attackers.
>
>And you are a total fool for continuing to use Windows.
>Pull your head out of your butt today and use Linux.
>
>Because it's stupid to use Windows ---- ANYWHERE ------
You have the same useless rhetoric I've heard for years. Linux is
free, it's stable and it's secure, so you have to use it or or you're
stupid. I choose to use what I use based on real-world decisions, not
ranting of some fanatic. In the real-world, no OS is free, because
the licensing of the OS is a minimal part of the budget, and the
choice of OS affects many other parts of the system, all of which may
increase or reduce the overall budget. In the real world, no OS is
stable or instable. It's the applications that have this distinction.
In my personal experience, stability has a lot to do with the admins
running the system and far less to do with the OS programmers.
Finally, security. In our region, the FBI division handling breakins
of systems lists Linux as the OS of choice for the breakin. At a
whopping 72% of the systems, compared to 24% for Microsoft OS's. This
is most likely due to innefective admins and the vast abundance of
scripts for hacking Linux boxes, coupled with Linux being the OS of
choice for most systems outside corporate firewalls. Security is not
a function of the OS, it's a function of the admin.
I'm not anti-Linux or pro-Microsoft. I run the best OS for the
particular situation. Which means Microsoft on the desktop
exclusively, with servers being a range of Linux, BSD, Solaris, NT,
W2K and OS/400. When Linux offers better options than NT, I'll switch
in a heartbeat. While it's getting closer, it ain't there yet. No
matter what diatribes I see posted.
You want me to switch? Give me options that make sense in my
environment.
Jeff
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How much do you *NEED*?
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:36:03 +0000
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Brent R"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Pete Goodwin wrote:
> <snip>
>> Because Linux's desktop has not caught up to Windows.
>
> Well, the Linux desktop is a lot cooler than Windows. It's a lot more
> configurable, but that's IMO of course.
>
> My main problem with the Linux console is that it's not as attractive as
> the Window's desktop. Reading aliased font all the time feels like I'm
> back in the Windows 3.x era. GNOME/Enlightment is a little better than
> KDE, and I heard they're in development for anti-aliasing. Until that
> happens I'll stick with Windows for gaming/browsing and Linux for real
> productivity.
IIRC there's an anti aliased font extension for X (I don't know how well
its working yet).
Also, on a >= 1280x1024 >=17" moniter, antialiased fonts don't matter
nearly as much.
-ed
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,demon.local
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:41:14 +0000
> http://www.legislation.hmso.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm section 53
>
> (4) A person who makes a disclosure to any other person of anything that
> he
> is required by a section 49 notice to keep secret shall be guilty of an
> offence and liable-
>
> (a) on conviction on indictment, to imprisonment for a term not
> exceeding
> five years or to a fine, or to both
I think that these are some of the worst laws that have ever been passed.
-Ed
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Does anyone know how much computer power we have/
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 25 Feb 2001 00:47:50 +1100
"Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>What's next? More transistors. More power. More speed. At this year's ISSCC,
>Patrick Gelsinger predicted that the processor of 2010 will contain 1B
>transistors, run at 20-30GHz, and perform over 1T operations per second (it
>will also consume in excess of 10kW of power).
That last part makes me doubt his predictions. I simply cannot see much of
a market for processors that require industrial power to be connected to
the back of the machine.... At least not a mass-market.
Bernie
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From: Brent R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does anyone know how much computer power we have/
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:44:27 GMT
Aaron Kulkis wrote:
<snip>
> One would think...but Microsoft actually achieves this low-level
> of performance through high-school mentality spaghetti code and
> good old across-the-board incompetance.
<snip>
No offense, but misspelling incompetence probably won't do your argument
any good.
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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Does anyone know how much computer power we have/
Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2001 15:48:43 +0000
In article <978e26$v59$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> "Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>What's next? More transistors. More power. More speed. At this year's
>>ISSCC, Patrick Gelsinger predicted that the processor of 2010 will
>>contain 1B transistors, run at 20-30GHz, and perform over 1T operations
>>per second (it will also consume in excess of 10kW of power).
>
> That last part makes me doubt his predictions. I simply cannot see much
> of a market for processors that require industrial power to be connected
> to the back of the machine.... At least not a mass-market.
I can. Starting from the home computers of the early 80's, the amount of
power required has steadily increased. Bear in mind, thet the faster you
want to switch a silicon junctio, the more power you need to switch it.
-Ed
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To:
comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.next.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Information wants to be free, Revisited
Date: 24 Feb 2001 15:53:36 GMT
On Sat, 24 Feb 2001 04:32:05 -0500, Aaron Kulkis wrote:
>
>> Duh! I suppose it's because you want to force people to download that
>> sorry BS thousands of times over ?
>
>People are lazy. If you want people to be aware of something,
>then it's necessary to put it in a place where they cannot
>avoid finding it.
I see. So you want to force everyone to download and read your
drivel.
Sorry, no thanks.
*plonk*
--
Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
elflord at panix dot com
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