Linux-Advocacy Digest #545, Volume #32 Tue, 27 Feb 01 23:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: [OT] .sig (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Something Seemingly Simple. (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: [OT] .sig (Michael Vester)
Re: Mircosoft Tax (Ed Allen)
Re: Mircosoft Tax (Ed Allen)
I say we BAN "Innovation" ("Flacco")
Re: What the hell is MS thinking? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: NT vs *nix performance ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: [OT] .sig (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: I say we BAN "Innovation" (mlw)
Re: NT vs *nix performance ("Jan Johanson")
Re: NT vs *nix performance ("Jan Johanson")
Re: NT vs *nix performance ("Jan Johanson")
Re: [OT] .sig (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: "mcse" in small letters! ;) (Aaron Kulkis)
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: [OT] .sig
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:57:54 -0500
Brent R wrote:
>
> chrisv wrote:
> >
> > Robert Stankowic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >Man,
> > >obviously you are too stupid to understand that usenet is an
> > >_international_ medium. Your stupid posts arrive at _my_ computer in
> > >_my_ country and I feel offended.
> >
> > Then
> > don't
> > read
> > them.
> >
> > >*plonk*
> >
> > Hey, you finally figured it out!
> >
> > Now, isn't that better than having everyone's right suppressed and
> > speech censored, just so you never have to exercise YOUR right to use
> > your head and delete the post or change the channel or whatever?
>
> What in nine hells are you talking about? They just asked him to tin-can
> the sig.
>
> God I'm getting really sick of this thread.
Than stop wasting bandwidth on it.
> --
> Happy Trails!
>
> -Brent
>
> http://rotten168.home.att.net
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: Something Seemingly Simple.
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:59:27 -0500
Chris Torek wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >Can I, or can I not write my own printf() which behaves utterly and
> >completely differently than the printf() in the standard library?
>
> You can try. Whether it will work, and under what conditions,
> depends on your implementation. Tell me enough about these and I
> can give you a yes or no answer.
Thank you for conceding my point.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Michael Vester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [OT] .sig
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 20:37:34 -0700
Dave Vandervies wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Richard Heathfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Dave Vandervies wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> Richard Heathfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >In Usenet, it's not difficult to spot clueless Americans.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure I agree with this. Clueless people in general are easy to
> >> spot, but often it's difficult to tell whether someone (clueless or not)
> >> is American or not unless they're obnoxiously proud of it one way or
> >> the other.
> >>
> >> (After all, I've been mistaken for an American...)
> >
> >You mean you're not one?
>
> No, I'm Canadian, and the only thing I have in common with a lot of
> Americans is that I'm forced to share a continent with them. (No,
> I don't speak the same language; it may have the same name, but it's
> a very different dialect at the very least.)
> (I'd've thought it was obvious from the .ca in my email address, but...)
>
^^^^^^^^^
That is not a Canadian word. I am a Canadian too. They never
taught us that one in school. It is quite difficult to
differentiate between English speaking western Canadians and
Americans from the west and north. I thought the Usenet
elevates us beyond geographical and political boundaries. The
only price of admission is a computer and a reasonable command
of the English language.
There has to be a universal language and why not English? It
has a big lead right now. If you don't speak English natively,
what language is the one you are most likely learn, English of
course.
I have never had any problem communicating with any American.
Their flavor on English is quite close. There are are few
notable exceptions;
American -- Canadian
dollar -- loony
pissed -- angry
drunk == pissed
The last two have caused some confusion.
> ><snip>
> >
> >> Never offend with style when you can offend with substance.
> >
> >:-)
>
> 'Tis very good advice, actually. I try to follow it whenever possible.
> (I'm not quite sure whether quoting it was intended to be a comment on
> your comment about me being American, though, so I might as well err on
> the side of caution and set the record straight.)
>
> dave
>
> --
> Dave Vandervies
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by ignorance.
--
Michael Vester
A credible Linux advocate
"The avalanche has started, it is
too late for the pebbles to vote"
Kosh, Vorlon Ambassador to Babylon 5
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Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Mircosoft Tax
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Allen)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 04:01:02 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Giuliano Colla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"." wrote:
>>
>> > > (BTW, Office 95 was significantly better than Office 2000)
>> > >
>> > Care to elaborate Giuliano? Interesting point. Or anyone else have
>> > any opinions on this?
>> >
>>
>> Office 95 - a couple of Y2K patches, occasionally crashes for no apparent
>> reason, no office assistant, unobtrusive and optional office sidebar (I
>> hated it, but I loved that fact that it would fucking STAY GONE, not like
>> the bloody paperclip)
>>
>> Office 97 - two NON-cumulative service packs, still unreliable, office
>> assiSATANt, slower, often can't even INSTALL without introducing a couple
>> of screwups into the registry (regclean sometimes picks these up)
>>
>> Office 2000 - I don't even want to start on this, IMO it is pure evil,
>> but let's just say 'compulsory registration' and leave it at that.
>
>That's more or less my experience, with minor differences, because
>localized versions suffer from MS inability to tell apart code from text
>messages. After Office 95 (not good but bearable) we got Office 97 for
>free, bundled in a few PC we bought, and found it slow, dramatically
>more unstable than Office 95 we had. After some time all the Office 97
>versions have been uninstalled, and reverted (with some pain and
>StarOffice help) to Office 95 for which we had a site license.
>Compulsory registration of Office 2000 rules it out for our use: we
>frequently wipe clean computers and reinstall everything, and usually
>those registration gimmicks fail painfully. However I haven't seen any
>useful feature added since Office 95, I've seen the product becoming
>bloated, unsecure and more and more unstable. When a text editor decides
>to correct the name of your customer because it thinks you misspelled
>it, and replaces it with a word you'd better not use in a polite letter,
>you understand that the added "features" are really idiotic. If you're
>writing in a hurry, you may not notice it. If the customer gets the
>letter, this significantly increases the Total Cost of Ownership, if you
>understand what I mean. For that reason the only place where you may
>find Office 97 at our company is in a number CD's neatly piled up in a
>corner. Sometimes they are used to get clip art cartoons.
Thank you Giuliano for that great example of what crapware is like after
it gets off the showroom floor.
--
How much do we need to pay you to screw Netscape?
- BILL GATES, to AOL in a 1996 meeting
------------------------------
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Mircosoft Tax
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ed Allen)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 04:01:03 GMT
In article <lOFm6.465$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Giuliano Colla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Yes, of course. In order to provide a significant performance
>> improvement. Otherwise why to make a new release?
>
>The 2.4 kernel only provides significant improvement on SMP systems, not on
>typical ones. Even then, this was more of fixing a deficiency rather than
>improving.
>
Not subtle enough Erik. It is too easy to see that you are hiding
your private definition of "improvement" to be able to say "I never
said that" after a few more posts.
--
How much do we need to pay you to screw Netscape?
- BILL GATES, to AOL in a 1996 meeting
------------------------------
From: "Flacco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: I say we BAN "Innovation"
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2001 04:02:14 GMT
Not the concept - the word. It's seriously getting over-used.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What the hell is MS thinking?
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:03:47 -0500
Johannes Bauer wrote:
>
> >Why ?
> Because you can prove to the world that Windows is the "superior" OS
> thus increasing the number of people who buy it thus increasing the
> money MS earns thus increasing the support Windows will get by
> Microsoft. "Make a better world"
>
> >I don't need to visit a website to know how well our W2k terminal server is
> >working.
> But maybe you'd need one to show you the clear facts: For every one
> Windows-server that runs stable (high uptime) there are dozens (if not
> hundreds) of Linux-servers (well, Linux, Unix, BSD, etc.) that run
> stable. Point proven?
More effective is the following observation:
For every Linux server that is stable, you need a small fleet
of W2k servers to obtain equivalent functionality.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,alt.linux.sux,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT vs *nix performance
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 22:13:56 -0600
"." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Every source that claims that MS tried multiple conversions of Hotmail
to NT
> > all reference the same *SINGLE* story published on less than credible
news
> > site with "unnamed" sources.
>
> Cnet - Sun->NT
> http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-344896.html
This (and it's related links) talk about MS having plans to convert, but not
actually doing so.
> ZDNet - BSD->NT
> http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/2000/30/ns-17071.html
This is the story about their only conversion in July of last year, where
they converted to Win2k.
> True to form with the Microsoft web site, searching for something doesn't
> turn it up. Do you have a link to microsoft.com with their most recent
> official statement?
Same place it's always been. A search from the main Microsoft page for
"Hotmail NT" shows the second link as:
http://www.microsoft.com/NTServer/web/news/msnw/Hotmail.asp
Why do you people have such a hard time using search engines?
> > Meanwhile, MS themselves stated specifically that no conversion was ever
> > attempted. Further, the claim was that MS tried to convert to NT within
> > weeks of purchasing Hotmail. It would have taken them months just to
> > familiarize themselves with the system enough to even begin such a task,
let
> > alone complete and fail within weeks.
>
> That's based on a false premise... MS would be quite capable of fucking
> up the conversion in just a couple of weeks. A sane programmer wouldn't
> attempt it without reading and understanding the source code, but sanity
> is a bit short in some areas.
Do you really think MS would be that stupid?
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.c
Subject: Re: [OT] .sig
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:05:34 -0500
Donovan Rebbechi wrote:
>
> On Tue, 27 Feb 2001 21:33:59 +0000, Edward Rosten wrote:
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Donovan Rebbechi"
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
>
> >W: Joona tried to infringe on my constsiutional rights because he is a
> >**** comunist **** **** **** *****. And if he tries again then I'll get my
> >gun and shoot him in to little pieces, because he is a Nazi *********. Oh
> >and don't anyone bother to mention Goodwin because you can go an
> >************* Goodwin.
>
> That's more like it (btw, it's "Godwin". Not to be confused with the guy
> "Goodwin" who hangs out here)
FUCK GOODWIN!
>
> --
> Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
> elflord at panix dot com
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I say we BAN "Innovation"
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:10:02 -0500
Flacco wrote:
>
> Not the concept - the word. It's seriously getting over-used.
I agree. It has become a square on "buzz word bingo." Depending on your point
of view, it is arguable that there is no innovation.
--
The majority of the stupid is invincible and guaranteed for all time.
The terror of their tyranny, however, is alleviated by their lack of
consistency.
-- Albert Einstein
========================
http://www.mohawksoft.com
------------------------------
From: "Jan Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,alt.linux.sux,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT vs *nix performance
Date: 27 Feb 2001 22:06:06 -0600
"." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > 4200 requests per second, if we assume about 512 bytes per request and
> > > the server is serving up 2k static pages, could easily be done over a
> > > single 100Mbit connection.
> > >
> > > 4200 * 512 + 4200 * 2048 = 10752000 bytes per second
> > >
> > > 10752000 * 8 = 86016000 bits per second, easily doable with 100Mb.
> >
> > Sure... assuming that a 100 mb/s ethernet connection has no problem with
86%
> > effeciency.
>
> What makes you think there would be a problem? Let's assume for the
> moment that his hardware is up to the test.
Dude... he's running a pentium pro 200 - it CANNOT generate that much data.
Hell, the bus he's on can't generate that much bandwidth.
------------------------------
From: "Jan Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,alt.linux.sux,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT vs *nix performance
Date: 27 Feb 2001 22:06:12 -0600
Your test is NOT equal to the specweb test - how can you compare the two?
"J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Jan Johanson wrote:
------------------------------
From: "Jan Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,alt.linux.sux,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: NT vs *nix performance
Date: 27 Feb 2001 22:07:13 -0600
"J Sloan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Jan Johanson wrote:
>
> > "Aaron Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > Exactly - microsoft's "bet the farm", "benchmark buster"
> > > > > configuration with the special web cache in front of iis
> > > > > is badly outperformed by AIX, and can't even match the
> > > > > performance of the free Red Hat Linux system.
> > > >
> > > > Special cache? You mean some software anyone can buy and run outta
the
> > box?
> > >
> > > If it's not part of the base OS, nor part of the web server, then yes,
> > > it is a "special cache"....
> >
> > You mean like tux?
>
> Nope, wrong again - Tux is not a cache, it's a web server.
>
> Can you spot the difference?
I sure can. but, so what. Tux is a custom benchmark busting web server. SWC
is a web cache, a retail product available to anyone. It improves the
performance of any IIS server it's put in front of. I hardly consider that
"custom"
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [OT] .sig
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:07:18 -0500
Michael Vester wrote:
>
> It is appropriate for an advocacy group. If offended, feel
> free not to come into this group. Bandwidth whining is
> nonsense. A single porno jpg eats more bandwidth than a week
> of Aaron posting. Aaron is much more interesting than
> Microsoft endorsed product speak from Chad Myers. My only
> complaint is that the sig should be more current.
>
> Looks like the "losedos" advocates are really losing. Can't
> attack Linux on a technical level (Linux is superior in every
> way), then attack the more obvious Linux advocates. An act of
> desperation.
>
> Come on you "losedos" advocates. Try explaining what .NET is.
> Tell us how wonderful the future will be with a Microsoft only
> world. Explain how a subscription based OS will benefit
> humanity.
>
> And where is Flatfish++++. I miss her.
Allchin revoked her troll-duty pay.
Word on the street is that she's trying to get Drestin Black
to start pimping her out, too.
>
> --
> Michael Vester
> A credible Linux advocate
>
> "The avalanche has started, it is
> too late for the pebbles to vote"
> Kosh, Vorlon Ambassador to Babylon 5
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc,alt.unix.alt.unix.geeks,comp.unix.sys5,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.solaris,alt.solaris.x86,comp.unix.aix,csu.unix.aix,comp.unix.sco,comp.unix.advocacy
Subject: Re: "mcse" in small letters! ;)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:08:53 -0500
"Bryant Charleston, MCSE" wrote:
>
> >
> > First step to freedom is to put the mcse in small letters ;)
>
> One of these days, I will! ;-)
> But for now I need that MCSE go get me into a mixed Unix/NT networking
> environment. I see that there are apparently a LOT of those around these
> days, which is good for me. Once I'm in, and well-versed in either Linux or
> FreeBSD, I can use the knowledge that I've gained to earn the respect of the
> Unix guys and continue moving in the Unix direction.
>
> One thing that's REALLY starting to get on my nerves (since I'm already
> perparing for the Windows 2000 MCSE conversion, which I MUST complete by
> this year) is the idea of having to re-certify myself as an MCSE every few
> years. I don't mind staying up on technology... but to HAVE to go out and do
> this over and over again is going to get old real quick. I know others
> who've taken MCSE classes (I studied and then took the exams on my own and
> saved between $5000-$8000, depending on where you go). These folks did all
> their NT studies, paid their $5000+, then got discouraged when they found
> that they'd have to re-certify to W2K by the end of this year (or, worse
> yet, NEVER finished taking the exams to begin with).
Now you know why Unix people at Microsoft.
>
> I definitely want that Windows 2000 MCSE, but I'm not interested in
> "Whistler" and whatever else is coming after it -- at least not at THIS
> time. That's another reason why I'm looking into getting a Unix background.
> I want to get to the point to where my EXPERIENCE gets me the job, rather
> than my certifications.
>
> Thanks a mil for the advice!
>
> >
> > --
> > The majority of the stupid is invincible and guaranteed for all time.
> > The terror of their tyranny, however, is alleviated by their lack of
> > consistency.
> > -- Albert Einstein
> > ------------------------
> > http://www.mohawksoft.com
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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