Linux-Advocacy Digest #734, Volume #32 Fri, 9 Mar 01 22:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: What does IQ measure? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: What does IQ measure? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: What does IQ measure? (Scott Gardner)
Re: The Double Fucking ala MS... (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: What Linux MUST DO! - Comments anyone? (Gert Elstermann)
Re: What does IQ measure? (Scott Gardner)
Re: What Linux MUST DO! - Comments anyone? (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: definition of "free" for N-millionth time (Paul Colquhoun)
Re: What does IQ measure? (Anonymous)
Re: The GPL if you are curious. (mlw)
Re: What does IQ measure? (Scott Gardner)
Re: What does IQ measure? (Anonymous)
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What does IQ measure?
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 21:27:29 -0500
Steve Mading wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Scott Gardner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : True. Hollywood is one of my almost-pet-peeves. (I only allow myself
> : three or four full-blown pet peeves, so I have to be selective about
> : what I let bother me.)
> : Why is that we (speaking about the American culture here) pay these
> : people millions of dollars, practically worship them as dieties or
> : royalty, pay them to endorse our products, and generally emulate the
> : hell out of them when their only talent that they exercise publicly is
> : their ability to act!?!? I know that some of them have other
> : talents--hell, Kris Kristofferson was a Rhodes scholar, for goodness
> : sakes, but he's not famous for his thinking, he's famous for reciting
> : lines given to him by a writer! I've always wondered if the writers
> : for the show "Friends" get to wash the stars' Porsches as part of
> : their contract!
>
> It seems that the best shows on TV are the ones where the actors also
> participate in the scriptwriting. I don't necessarily think this is
> because they make better scripts, but because it's a litmus test that
> ensures the actor knows more than one aspect of his field, and isn't
> a moron.
It also means that since the script is partially a product of
the actors' own imgainations, then they are far better able
to perform it.
Which ideas are you able to repeat to other people the best
a) those which someone written out and handed to you
b) those which you have developed yourself.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What does IQ measure?
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 21:29:17 -0500
Steve Mading wrote:
>
> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> : Correlation does not imply causation.
>
> : However, Correlation which coresponds with reverse correlation
> : usually does imply causation one way or the other.
>
> Not necessarily. It also leaves open the possiblity of an un-examined
I notice how you explicitly SNIPPED the counter-example to my
own argument which *I* provided.
Why did you do that, Steve?
> third thing that is a cause of the two things being examined, rather
> one of the two being a cause of the other.
>
> For example, I would imagine there is a high correlation between
> people who like Monty Python and people who like Red Dwarf. This
> isn't becuase one causes the other, it's because both are effects
> of the cause "likes British comedy".
Just as my example of two rare symptoms which are both frequent
and prevalent with only one particulare disease...
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Gardner)
Crossposted-To: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What does IQ measure?
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 02:32:23 GMT
On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 15:49:54 -0500, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> There were also questions on the Naval Aviation test that I
>> had a hard time with. They would give you a view out of the cockpit,
>> and you had to match it with the correct birds-eye external view of
>> the plane. The surroundings were comprised of air, water, beach, and
>> the coastline, and the plane could be banking, climbing, diving,
>> inverted, headed out to sea, in towards the land, or paralleling the
>> coast. For all I know, those questions could be the reason I'm a
>> Naval Flight Officer today and not a Pilot!
>
>Ya think?
Honestly, I don't know. I dont know what my scores on that particular
section were, just that I had a hard time with them. For all I know,
I could have gotten them all right, but I was almost sweating blood by
the time I finished the section. Also, the needs of the Navy figured
into the community for which I was eventually selected. At the time I
was commissioned, the Navy had recently been through a large draw-down
of forces, and was in need of more flight officers than pilots. When
I initially put in my package for Officer Candidate School, aviation
wasn't even one of my three choices, but here I am. Clearly, the Navy
had its own ideas as to where I was needed. I'm physically qualified
to be a pilot, so maybe if that's what the Navy had needed at the
time, that's what I'd be now. I'll never know, just like I'll never
know what my score was on those airplane/beach/water problems.
Scott
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The Double Fucking ala MS...
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 21:34:37 -0500
Steve Mading wrote:
>
> Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : On 7 Mar 2001 08:48:05 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking) wrote:
>
> :>
> :> Michael Vester ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> :> : snoopygates wrote:
> :>
> :> : > w2k just came out and they haven't sat down to fix the bugs. Now they are
> :> : > forcing the new windows on us. When will it ever stop?
> :>
> :> : Not as long as the can make piles of money.
> :>
> :> Actually a stop sign is in sight. The minute that Intel can no longer deliver
> :> on faster chips to run the more bloated software, the upgrade-go-round will
> :> collapse, and like yeast in a jug of fermenting grape juice swimming in their
> :> own excrement, Microsoft will have to die off.
>
> : M$ will rewrite their bloatware more efficiently. More efficient routines
> : and tighter code in general will produce a faster more reliable product
> : which they'll market as something new. Benchmarks will encourage the
> : unknowing to re-invest in what they already have, or more accurately what
> : they should have been sold in the first place. I wouldn't be surprised if
> : this was already part of M$'s game plan. Maybe they write tight code and
> : bloat it up so they've ensured a fall back position for when things go
> : wrong.
>
> But taking bad code and just trying to tighten it up is damn near
> impossible. Efficient tight running has to be a goal from day 1,
> it can't be added in later.
But you can take good code, and introduce crap into it, for
the purpose of removing it later as an "improvement".
IBM used to do this shit with their hardware on a routine basis.
They would install circuits to pull the DMA line periodically
(like, say, every couple thousandths of a second). When you
wanted your IBM upgraded to a faster model, the technician
would come and REMOVE the bus-bandwidth-hog circuit card.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: Gert Elstermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What Linux MUST DO! - Comments anyone?
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 03:31:29 +0100
Charlie Ebert wrote:
>
> http://www.netslaves.com/comments/983976069.shtml
An outstanding text on Linux' real situation! THX for the URL!
CU - Gert Elstermann.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Gardner)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What does IQ measure?
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 02:36:18 GMT
On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 11:08:41 -0500, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Scott Gardner wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:05:46 -0800, Brock Hannibal
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >> >It may be an advantage in many situations but if I can get further in a
>> >> >problem than someone who thinks more quickly, who is the most intelligent?
>> >>
>> >> Or, if the more one thinks about something, the clearer it becomes, rather
>> >> than muddying up pretty accurate instantaneous responses.
>> >
>> >Huh? (tm)
>> >
>> >--
>> >Brock
>>
>> I know what he's talking about--in the Navy, we call it "Nuking
>> Something Out", named for those in the Naval Nuclear Power field that
>> are prone to such behavior, or simply "Trick-Fucking Yourself". It
>> happens when you throw away a perfectly good first impression, hunch,
>> or educated guess in favor of deep introspection, consideration of
>> multiple possiblities, and leading to an invariable f**king-up of the
>> answer. An example would be a person who, when asked how far a fired
>> projectile will travel, decides to be slick and try to account for the
>> curvature of the earth and the air resistance in his answer. Well, an
>> hour or so down the road, he's used a sine function where he meant to
>> use cosine, or dropped a unit in the air density, and his answer is
>> off by several orders of magnitude. Was he intelligent in realizing
>> that the curvature of the earth and air density would play a factor in
>> his answer? Absolutely. But he got himself in over his head with the
>> calculations and ended up with an answer that was poorer than if he
>> had just used the one-line algebraic solution in the first place.
>>
>
>These are two SEPERATE problems
>
>One is "what is an approximate answer", which is what the "first
>impression" result is.
>
>The other problem is "what is the PRECISE answer", which, as you
>have alluded, requires precise, error-prone calculations.
>
>this has NOTHING to do with intelligence, and everything to
>do with the fact that without a computer, finding the answer
>is exceedingly errorprone.
>
>Tell me...how many boatswain's mates could even tell you
>all of the factors which influence "air resistance", let
>alone build plausible mathematical models for how it varies
>over the flight path of a 16-inch projectile traveling
>a couple-dozen miles downrange?
>
>
You absolutely right, but I would still say that a person who is
intelligent enough to understand all of the factors surrounding a
problem might not be precise or fastidious enough to work those
factors correctly into a solution, and would be more likely to give a
wrong answer (possibly VERY wrong), than a less-intelligent person
that understands a simple solution that gives a very good
approximation to the true answer. Which person is the better
problem-solver?
Scott
------------------------------
From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What Linux MUST DO! - Comments anyone?
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 21:36:26 -0500
Bloody Viking wrote:
>
> Edward Rosten ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> : The thing is, it doesn't matter if you have thousande of file formats as
> : long as they are all open. If they're open, then anyone can write a
> : converter to from one to the other.
>
> Certainly an improvement to have the million formats open for all than the
> present case. But I think a case of "keep it simple, stupid" being in order.
>
> If you don't mind, I'll weigh in with my own file format. The specification is
> utterly simple, the data must be in plaintext and in the simplest style
> possible. Control character sequences are allowed. Unnecessary complexity is
> not.
>
> Example:
>
> A formletter list whereby each recipient had 5 lines for the fields of data
> for the snailspamware to read. The maddening obvious case is a spammer with a
> list of email addresses. The spamlist falls under the .dta specification.
>
> A row/column style is permitted and encouraged for things like spreadsheets,
> or the hex of picture files.
>
> The .dta format is meant to be "formatless" and always plaintext, such that
> anyone can get the idea of how the data is put into the file easally. In the
> case of the matrix of hex, the hex must be documented. Same with a markup
> system like .HTML is now.
>
> What is NEVER allowed is any binary crap that obfusactes the data in the file.
>
> History shows that such ultrasimple formatting does work, with .HTML being a
> real life example. In that case, you have a file format that is plaintext and
> with a markup system that follows a standard that is readily knowable. The
> .HTML standard is about the most open file format ever invented.
>
> The beauty of simple open file formats is that ANYONE can code a util for it
> without undue hardship.
Which is PRECISELY why Microsoft hates open file formats.
>
> --
> FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
> The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
> The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Colquhoun)
Crossposted-To: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,misc.int-property
Subject: Re: definition of "free" for N-millionth time
Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 02:48:14 GMT
On Sat, 10 Mar 2001 02:12:38 +0200, Ayende Rahien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|
|"Steve Mading" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
|news:98bes2$f5a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
|
|
|> Embrace-and-extend is a working way to make the original less useful.
|> Consider HTML. MS originally opposed the internet and web browsing,
|> preferring an AOL/Prodigy/Compuserve type of model for their MSN. When
|> it became clear that it wouldn't work, they instead embraced and
|> extended the technology, so that now there are some websites out there
|> that don't work worth a damn if don't use Internet Explorer. They
|> did this by glomming onto a fairly open protocol (HTML) and adding things
|> that didn't improve it one bit, they merely made it incompatable.
|
|Yes, MS embraced & extended this attidue from Netscape.
|<BLINK>, anyone?
Including a <blink> tak in your page didn't stop people being able to view it
with IE (or Lynx, etc.)
|IE 5.5 was the most standard compliant browser when it was released, but you
|don't bother to mention that.
|The reason so many things works on IE only is Netscape's fault. The long
|history of 4.XX drove people away from the platfrom.
Netscape is forcing people to use IE-only "features"?
How does that work?
--
Reverend Paul Colquhoun, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Universal Life Church http://andor.dropbear.id.au/~paulcol
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xenaphobia: The fear of being beaten to a pulp by
a leather-clad, New Zealand woman.
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Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:40:36 -0700
From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What does IQ measure?
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
aaron wrote:
> Anonymous wrote:
> >
> > aaron wrote:
> > > If you were to follow around one IQ-100 person all day, you would
> > > be appalled by the vast number of incredibly stupid things they do
> > > in the course of a day, and how many completely fucking obvious
> > > connections they miss, how many winning opportunities they pass
> > > up (because they either don't understand them, or they fail to
> > > even recognize that the opportunity exists in the first place).
> >
> > now you know why i usually don't read your messages
> > jackie 'anakin' tokeman
> >
> > p.s. windows is a pretty cool operating system
> >
>
> Only in comparison to DOS.
>
> Compared to anything else, Windows is comparable to a Formula-1 body
> slapped on top of a Ford Pinto with a sand-injection oil system
> and water-contaminated brake-lines.
amiga: dead
beos: fringe
mac: fringe
os2: dead
next: dead
unix: user hostile
windows: mainstream user friendly
you were sayink?
jackie 'anakin' tokeman
men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
more even than death
- bertrand russell
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From: mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: The GPL if you are curious.
Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 21:47:32 -0500
Mike wrote:
>
> "Donovan Rebbechi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Tue, 06 Mar 2001 06:28:22 GMT, Mike wrote:
> > >
> > >"mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > >GPL is only a few pages long. I suggest that anyone who says something
> like,
> > >"GPL states that..." also publish the paragraph where it says "that".
> That
> > >would end half the speculation.
> >
> > I more or less agree with this sentiment, though where interpretation is
> > possible, I would also consider a quote from RMS as an authoritative
> > source on the *intended* meaning.
>
> I disagree. Intended meaning carries little weight in a courtroom. It's a
> legal document, and it has to stand on its own.
There are actually two issues here:
A contract will be interpreted in the "environment" in which is agreed. The
environment is defined by the available public information about the terms used
in a contract. There is no legal definition, that I know of, about "computer
source code," but it is defined by the common language of the time, i.e.
environment.
The GPL references a web site. This web site contains much documentation which
can be used to settle ambiguity in contract interpretation. RMS standing on a
stand saying what he intended is meaningless. Documentation publicly available,
prior to your accepting the contract, is relevant.
The second issue is litigation. Do you want to risk litigation?
Someone should work on a license that is a pragmatic interpretation of the GPL.
On the surface, I love the GPL, when examined in the context of published RMS
arbitration of ambiguity, it is frightening.
--
I'm not offering myself as an example; every life evolves by its own laws.
========================
http://www.mohawksoft.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Gardner)
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: What does IQ measure?
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 02:51:21 GMT
On Fri, 09 Mar 2001 09:59:46 -0500, Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Define BEST.
>
>
>You see, if the problem is "develop an algorithm to sort data",
>then all solution are equal. Quick Sort vs Bubble Sort vs Merge
>Sort vs Heap Sort, etc.
I disagree. Even with no external conditions or qualifications, one
solution can be obviously better than another. Let's discuss another
sorting algorithm, one that was described to me as "Bogo-sort". It
doesn't run as O(N), or even O(N^2), it runs as O(N!). If you wanted
to sort a deck of cards using Bogosort, you would do the following:
1) Throw the deck of cards in the air, and then gather them up.
2) Run through the deck to see if they're sorted
3) If not, repeat steps 1) and 2).
Will this eventually sort the cards? Yes, but even given its
simplicity, it's a lousy sort. But, it is "an algorithm to sort
data", so by your definition, it would be equal to bubble-sort, merge
sort, or any as-yet undeveloped sorting algorithm. I, on the other
hand, see it for what it is--the crudest, most brute-force solution
imaginable, and I wouldn't view the person that employed it as being
as intelligent as someone that developed some other method--ANY other
method.
Scott
>
>However, if the problem is "develop an algorith to sort data
>EFFICIENTLY" then, and ONLY THEN is one sort better than another sort.
>
>It all depends upon what qualifications you put in the problem.
>> Scott Gardner
>
>You need to spend less time soaking in the propaganda of various
>socialists and other closet-dictator egalitarians and more time
>investigating the discoveries made by the people who actually DO
>intelligence research.
>
>Start with "The Bell Curve" by Murray and Hernstein.
>
>
Well, I think *that* was kind of out of left field... I have read
"The Bell Curve", and based on my engineering education and
experience, I have some serious problems with some of their methods.
There are plenty of people more experienced and more intelligent than
I that feel the same way, so I don't think I'm standing alone on this
one. I hold quite a few beliefs that would be viewed as controversial
by a lot of mainstream thinkers, so I'm not discounting any part of
Murray and Hernstein's work just because I'm afraid of the
implications of "thinking against the grain", either.
Scott
>--
>Aaron R. Kulkis
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Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:57:36 -0700
From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What does IQ measure?
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,soc.singles
aaron wrote:
> Anonymous wrote:
> >
> > aaron wrote:
> > > If you were to follow around one IQ-100 person all day, you would
> > > be appalled by the vast number of incredibly stupid things they do
> > > in the course of a day, and how many completely fucking obvious
> > > connections they miss, how many winning opportunities they pass
> > > up (because they either don't understand them, or they fail to
> > > even recognize that the opportunity exists in the first place).
> >
> > now you know why i usually don't read your messages
>
> ....must be why you read this one.....
what's your iq?
jackie 'anakin' tokeman
men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth - more than ruin,
more even than death
- bertrand russell
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