Linux-Advocacy Digest #215, Volume #33 Sat, 31 Mar 01 04:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Arrrrgh! Hoist the Jolly Roger! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Windows, Linux and evolutionary models ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Mircosoft Tax (Donovan Rebbechi)
Re: Here is the response from Microsoft regarding Linux and Piracy: ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
More "user friendly" behavior from Mafia$oft windows ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Fun With Parallel Ports. ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Earn some money with Linux ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Arrrrgh! Hoist the Jolly Roger! ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Earn some money with Linux ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Arrrrgh! Hoist the Jolly Roger!
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 02:56:23 -0500
JS PL wrote:
>
> "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > JS PL wrote:
> > >
> > > "Andy Walker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >
> > > > The only new concept Microsoft have
> > > > introduced is the acceptability of unfinished and buggy code!
> > >
> > > That's strange. According to the United States Patent Office, Microsoft
> has
> > > introduced MANY more concepts than your one example.
> > >
> > >
> http://164.195.100.11/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&u=%2Fnetaht
> > > ml%2Fsearch-adv.htm&r=0&p=1&f=S&l=50&Query=microsoft&d=pall
> > >
> > > And a search for Microsoft at http://www.delphion.com/ turned up about
> 3500
> > > results. That's about one new patent every three days since 1975. If I
> had
> > > no life like the MS bashing regulars here, I might even peruse some of
> > > Microsoft's innovative concepts in more depth. But why would I? Their
> > > immense success with consumers and developers the least 26 years is
> proof
> > > enough that they provide excellent products at competitive prices. The
> fact
> > > that linux is struggling to maintain a 3 to 1000 computer ratio is proof
> > > enough that nobody want's anything to do with it on the desktop.
> >
> > One could argue that if party A has created a concept and that concept
> > was stolen and then taken to the patent office by party B, that patent
> > doesn't necessarily mean its a new concept... just a new patent.
> >
> > I disagree on the desktop argument. By serving install fests in our
> > local mall, our organization has made it public that there is an
> > alternative to microsofts o/s. Many people aren't aware of Linux
> > because no one has enough money to advertise Linux during prime time
> > TV. Many people that had actually took a test drive of Linux at the
> > mall were really impressed and wanted to know how much it cost. We tell
> > them they even have another alternative in Linux: download it for free
> > or purchase at low cost a distribution. We have shown RedHat, Suse,
> > Caldera, Mandrake, and Slackware as the various distributions.
> >
> > One person wanted to know if he can get a refund from Microsoft if they
> > return the software unused and disagree with the license terms. The End
> > User License Agreement states that one can, but Microsoft won't honor
> > that agreement. Hence the monopoly lawsuits.
>
> I would be willing to bet money that a similar "install fest" at the same
> mall where you put up a booth giving out the latest build of Linux and
> Microsoft showed up giving out WindowsXP when it's released, the XP line
> would be around the block, and the Linux line would be about 1 guy deep and
> 4 guys wide.
Of course...a Microsoft OS that doesn't crash would TRULY be an oddity.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Windows, Linux and evolutionary models
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 02:57:52 -0500
Andy Walker wrote:
>
> Karel Jansens wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> >Andy Walker wrote:
> >>
> >> Natural selection partly relies on the ability to adapt to the future. As
> >> the future almost certainly involves multiuser, multitasking and
> >> multiplatform not to mention stability, I can't see Windows making the
> >> decade out. Whereas Linux is already being ported to 64 bit architecture,
> >> Windows still relies on 16 bit DOS in parts and is very badly supported
> in
> >> the types of processors it runs on.
> >> Scalabilty is also an important issue. Linux can be used, as has already
> >> been seen, in anything from embedded set top boxes up to large network
> >> servers. With the inevitable integration of electrical consumer goods and
> >> audio visual systems, Linux is perfectly suited to being at the forefront
> of
> >> this revolution.
> >
> >Natural selection can only take the past into account, it most certainly
> >does not "adapt to the future" (how would that be possible, unless the
> >"entity" controlling the evolution has a way of looking into the
> >future?)
> >
> >IMHO this whole analogy between biological evolution and
> >electronic/algorithmic evolution sucks big time: Natural selection is
> >not controlled by some kind of intelligence, while it is evident that
> >the electronic evolution is (albeit often a very limited form of
> >intelligence, also known as "management"); natural selection is not
> >striving to achieve some kind of utopian goal, it is just the way
> >biological organisms happen to react to a changing environment; natural
> >selection is not interested in the best possible solution, it will be
> >more than satisfied with one that works.
> >
> >It seems to me that the only thing biological and electronic evolution
> >have in common is that they change over time.
> >
> >Well duh...
> >
> >--
>
> A few companies are experimenting with organic memory. The theory is that
> the organic system has considerably greater capacity than semiconductors for
> said size.
> This could be the dawn of a new era of organic computers and you may find
> that biological and electronic evolution have a great deal in common in the
> future!
Take such claims with a HUGE grain of salt.
Lots of papers and hot air about "organic computing"...but after 20 YEARS,
not a single working prototype of anything...not even something as simple
as memory or logic gates.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Donovan Rebbechi)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux.sux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Mircosoft Tax
Date: 31 Mar 2001 08:24:46 GMT
On 27 Mar 2001 18:22:19 GMT, Perry Pip wrote:
>On 27 Mar 2001 07:32:17 GMT,
>Donovan Rebbechi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On 26 Mar 2001 21:08:28 GMT, Perry Pip wrote:
>>Did it get "proven" ? What do you mean by "proof" anyway ? This is not a
>>criminal case, which substantially lowers the standards regarding what
>>constitutes "proof", (actually it's not necessary for the plaintiff to "prove"
>>anything to win a civil suit). And the decisions were made unilaterally by
>>Jackson. The legal system allows for a due process and peer review that has
>>not as yet run its course.
>
>Until it's reversed on appeal, it's legally factual. And even so, you
>certainly can't call it in your words 'unsubstantiated nonsense'
>considering it's the evidence based on MS's own internal documents.
The "unsubstantiated nonsense" remark was in response to a fairly sloppy
argument. (namely hardware is getting cheaper therefore WIndows should also)
I suppose there may be some evidence to point to this, I have
not followed the case that closely, and I've yet to hear a convincing
argument. (and no, Max ignorantly quacking econ 101 slogans does not
convince me at all)
>IMHO you've used a considerable amount of sloppy reasoning yourself,
>including your stereotyping of people, which only makes reasonable
>people sceptical of you.
Stereotyping ? Not at all. I didn't call you a ranting zealot. I did
allude to the idea that you may be willing to accept or endorse fairly
weak claims against MS. For example, you claimed that MS Office and
V Studio were also "overpriced", and I pointed out that the competing
commercial products (Corel, Borland) are more or less equally overpriced.
While I don't believe you're a ranting zealot, I don't believe that you'll
apply the same healthy scepticism to an anti-MS rant as you would to a
pro-MS rant. Do you believe that you would do so ? I believe the vast
majority of people don't like to question arguments when they agree with
the conclusions.
I also suggested that you would have held the same views even if MS had
gotten off in court. The reason for this assertion was that outcomes of
litigation rarely change anyones mind about the way they feel about a
particular case, especially if they have strong feelings (+ or -) about
a party to the litigation in question. I was not attempting to smear
you as a "zealot" by saying this, but this is how most people work --
and I think you will find that the vast majority of people who've debated
this issue have not changed their opinions based on the outcome of the
case (and I also doubt this will happen if MS are let off on the appeal)
--
Donovan Rebbechi * http://pegasus.rutgers.edu/~elflord/ *
elflord at panix dot com
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Here is the response from Microsoft regarding Linux and Piracy:
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:06:57 -0500
Charles Lyttle wrote:
>
> Joel Barnett wrote:
> >
> > "Adam Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Matthew Gardiner"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From Microsoft Anti-Piracy Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date
> > > > Thursday, March 29, 2001 6:31 pm To Matthew Gardiner
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject Re: Piracy???? (KMM187946C0KM)
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We suggest that you contact Linux.
> > > >
> > > > Microsoft Corporation
> > > > Worldwide Sales & Support Group
> > >
> > > LOL
> > >
> > > Great response from MS, Matthew. I hope you're attempting to have a
> > > conversation with your kernel right now.
> > >
> > > Let's be charitable: Maybe it was a typo, and the MS support person
> > > instead meant to write:
> > >
> > > We suggest that you contact Linus.
> > >
> >
> > Or, perhaps the MS person realized the stupidity of the question and
> > intentionally gave a stupid answer.
> >
> > > Regards,
> > > Adam
> >
> > jbarntt
> Doubtful. I've just been talking to the support people from another
> major company that makes DSP chips.
> ME : Hi, I have need information on emulators for your AAABBB DSP chip.
> SUPPORT : Is that a calculator?
> ME : No. Its a "Digital Signal Processor" semiconductor chip.
> SUPPORT : Oh. Have you visited our web site xx.com.
> ME : I tried, but it doesn't come up.
> SUPPORT : Well what did you type for the URL?
> ME : XX.com and it 404ed
> SUPPORT : What's 404ed?
> ME : It didn't come up.
> SUPPORT : That's because its been changed to xx.education.com.
> ME : Let me try that. (Enters URL in browser)
> I get a site that talks about programs for primary grade school
> children.
> SUPPORT : That is where we have all the information on our calculators.
> ME : I have a meeting to go to. I'll call back later.
Tell your local sales rep. That's the most effective way to get
such problems fixed.
When salesmen mention customer complaints...people listen.
> --
> Russ Lyttle
> "World Domination through Penguin Power"
> The Universal Automotive Testset Project at
> <http://home.earthlink.net/~lyttlec>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.singles
Subject: More "user friendly" behavior from Mafia$oft windows
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:09:13 -0500
Paolo Ciambotti wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Marada C.
> Shradrakaii" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Just to suit their tastes? In general, you have to rearrange cards to
> > deal with large/awkward connectors. For the large antenna to fit on my
> > TV card, either it or the sound card or both had to move. Linux,
> > unsurprisingly, didn't miss a beat. Windows made it an all-afternoon
> > struggle.
>
> I bought a new PCI modem, and it wouldn't fit next to the sound card I had
> because of a connector sticking out of the sound card. Anyway, I ended up
> having to swap the modem's position in the backplane with the sound card.
> Not a big deal, I thought....
>
> Under Windoze, I ended up having to reinstall my printer, my joystick, and
> a whole buncha other stuff that shouldn't have been related just to get
> Windoze back up and running. It took me two or three hours and a dozen
> reboots to get my MSFT stuff into a stable state after a simple PCI board
> swap.
Behold...user friendly.
>
> Linux, on the other hand, never even noticed. It just worked. IT JUST
> FSCKING WORKED!!! I didn't have to do squat on the Linux side. And MSFT
> apologists claim how easy Windoze is to work with... bullshit.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Fun With Parallel Ports.
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:14:51 -0500
Roy Culley wrote:
>
> In article <9a0tcv$4kb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking) writes:
>
> <snip>
>
> Why did you cross post this to comp.os.linux.advocacy and alt.destroy.microsoft?
For your personal annoyance.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Earn some money with Linux
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:30:39 -0500
Benjamin Lvovsky wrote:
>
> Do you mean I can I sell compiled with say G++ executables without providing
> the source code?
Yes.
> I thought GPL and other licences do not allow that.
There is nothing that would require you to put YOUR CODE under the GPL.
> "Richard Thrippleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <I5_w6.43594$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Benjamin Lvovsky wrote:
> > >Last 15 years I was doing mostly Microsoft programming. DOS, Windows, NT,
> > >from low level device drivers to communications and database programming.
> > >Now I see Linux is much better, stayable. Except one thing! How can you
> earn
> > >some money with Linux?! It's too FREE!;) I have a smal (very;)) company.
> I'd
> > >like to completely move into Linux. But I have no a clue how programming
> for
> > >Linux can bring some profit. Does anyone know? I think it's the major
> > >problem for Linux.
> > Err... how about writing software for Linux and selling it to
> > people? Or is that too obvious? The OS may be free, but the software
> doesn't
> > have to be.
> > Just a tip for when you do start producing commercial Linux
> > software; compile on as many different platforms as you can. The nature of
> > the Linux APIs is such that in many cases getting code to compile on
> > different CPUs doesn't require that much extra effort, certainly not
> > compared to the benefits of a greater user base.
> >
> > Richard
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Arrrrgh! Hoist the Jolly Roger!
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 10:36:56 +0200
"GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I disagree on the desktop argument. By serving install fests in our
> local mall, our organization has made it public that there is an
> alternative to microsofts o/s. Many people aren't aware of Linux
> because no one has enough money to advertise Linux during prime time
> TV
Do you read newspapers? Linux got so much free advertisiment that its name
is clearly recognizable to anyone with a miniscule interest in computers.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Earn some money with Linux
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 03:32:04 -0500
Benjamin Lvovsky wrote:
>
> OK. That's cool. But do Linux people actually BUY software? Everyone got
Yes. I bought Star Office, for example...even though it's downloadable.
Why?
Convenience and to have a book in my hand, and support numbers, etc.
> used to get it for free. Except $5 CDs because it's cheaper to buy then to
> download and burn;) "FREE" software kills the market. It kills itself.
>
> "Bob Hauck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:02:46 GMT, Benjamin Lvovsky
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Do you mean I can I sell compiled with say G++ executables without
> > > providing the source code? I thought GPL and other licences do not
> > > allow that.
> >
> > You can't modify g++ and sell that without providing source code. But
> > you can certainly compile your own code with g++ and keep it
> > proprietary. The GNU toolset is widely used in embedded systems, to
> > give one example of using g++ for proprietary projects.
> >
> > --
> > -| Bob Hauck
> > -| Codem Systems, Inc.
> > -| http://www.codem.com/
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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