Linux-Advocacy Digest #318, Volume #33 Tue, 3 Apr 01 12:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: AMD is to Intel as "What OS" is to Windows? ("Cat")
Re: AMD is to Intel as "What OS" is to Windows? ("gbp")
Re: Things Linux can't do! ("Ayende Rahien")
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Mathew)
Re: Something like Install Shield for Linux? (Chad Everett)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Alex
Chaihorsky")
Re: Darwinian Evolution and open software (Chad Everett)
Re: AMD is to Intel as "What OS" is to Windows? (Eric Remy)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (silverback)
Re: Baseball (Chad Everett)
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From: "Cat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: AMD is to Intel as "What OS" is to Windows?
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:27:46 +1000
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And who holds all of the cards? Could I scratch myself anywhere near the windows OS or
.NET
etc if Bill and the gang didn't want me to? It's just tokenism to keep the very tame
politicians in their kennels.
Cat
http://www.ratrobot.com/sport/sport.htm NEW THIS MONTH Would you cheat in a $100
million
dollar lottery if you knew they wouldn't catch you? This is the problem with drugs in
sport.
How do we solve it?
http://www.ratrobot.com/java/ratrobot_help.jar FREE APPLETS JARS EDITORS CHOICE
www.ratrobot.com Articles that challenge your ideas about yourself and the world you
live in.
"Mike" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:69dy6.7608$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "2 + 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:9aaslu$vq3$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> ...
> > This being the case, then the open source movement, already having an OS,
> > needs a framework and execution engine of its own.
> >
> > My view is that Microsoft would be making big mistake by not porting .NET
> > framework to Linux.
> >
> > Linux and the open source movement has a lot of talent and access to much
> of
> > the .NET language work since it was an effort that involved many
> > contributions, none of which surrendered intellectual property rights.
> ...
>
> Last I looked, there were open standards for .NET. IIRC, .NET had been
> submitted to a European standards body, and the specification was freely
> available and downloadable. The thing I was looking for was C#, so I didn't
> spend much time on the other specs, and I could be mistaken.
>
> If I'm not mistaken, though, it wouldn't be Microsoft that's making the
> mistake you allude to.
>
> -- Mike --
>
>
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From: "gbp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: AMD is to Intel as "What OS" is to Windows?
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 14:37:13 GMT
Cat wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
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>How do you improve the state of computing if no one uses it because
you have no third party
>applications.
>
>Cat
Is this in reference to Linux or Java/JVM?
OK its simple--- theres more to computers than the desktop PC. Not
every machine needs to be able to run MS-Word or the latest 3D game.
Because Linux is a kind of Unix it has tons of software that runs on
it. This includes Oracle 8, DB2 and other high powered software.
Ever use an ATM? Does it use MS-Windows? No it does not. Neither
do a lot of systems you seem to think 'have no software'.
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From: "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Things Linux can't do!
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:32:54 +0200
"Sascha Bohnenkamp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Ayende Rahien wrote:
>
> > It's not exactly running as root, but it has privileged access to
hardware.
> sure? imho XF_somewhat is suid-root
That is what I've been told.
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Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
From: Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:49:59 +1000
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> "Gunner =A9" wrote:
> >=20
> > On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:55:14 GMT, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote=
:
> >=20
> > > >> You have repeatedly threatened to kill people for their politica=
l
> > > >> beliefs. That is not protecting their Constitutional Rights.
> > > >>
> > >
> > > Aaron> No, I have not.
> > >
> > >Yes you have. You have said that people should be killed for
> > >merely being democrats.
> >=20
> > Given the mindset of the Dems as a whole, and their repeated attempts t=
o
> > defeat the protections of the Constitution.. a good case could be made
> > for Self Defense in terminating with extreme prejudice such a group of
> > people. Sorta like putting down a rabid dog. They are dangerous and
> > sooner or later, they will bite someone. Its not their fault..its just
> > the way they are. Mindless, ignorant, driven by their emotions rather
> > than logic and common sense. Very much like a rapid dog.
Do you remember when Bush Sr. was running against Michael Dukakis
and said with great hate that " at least he is not a card carrrying=20
memeber of the A.C.L.U."
This was the same A.C.L.U. that defended Olliver North,who had spat on=20
the constitution.
> >=20
>=20
> I understand that a lot of Democrats have an irrational fear of
> water as well.
>=20
> (How else can you account for their pollution paranoia?)
>=20
> > Gunner
> >=20
> > --
> > "Confronting Liberals with the facts of reality is very much akin to
> > clubbing baby seals. It gets boring after a while, but because Liberals=
are
> > so stupid it is easy work." Steven M. Barry
>=20
>=20
> --=20
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
>=20
> K: Truth in advertising:
> =09Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
> =09Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
> =09Special Interest Sierra Club,
> =09Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> =09Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> =09The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> =09Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>=20
>=20
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>=20
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>=20
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>=20
> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>=20
>=20
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>=20
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>=20
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
> =20
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>=20
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>=20
> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>=20
>=20
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Subject: Re: Something like Install Shield for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 3 Apr 2001 10:14:52 -0500
On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 08:16:21 -0400, mlw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Yes, I know about "configure" and "make," but for binary distribution, is there
>an open source installer? One, gasp, which is pretty and programmable, will
>switch to root to perform the install? If so I haven't seen it.
>
>While I think Install Shield is a miserable hack, and anyone that has used it
>will fundamentally agree, it gets the job done.
>
>So, if one were to write such a program, should it be able to handle RetHat and
>Debian packages? Or would it be OK to simply use its own format? Self
>extracting is a must.
>
>Anyone have any ideas?
Yes. My idea is that is is a mistake to forget about rpm. rpm could be made to
sudo to root for certain users, but I don't think you want to do this. Normal
users can always use rpm to install binaries in their local directories if they
want, without getting root.
What the heck is the matter with rpm?
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From: "Alex Chaihorsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: 03 Apr 2001 15:33:07 GMT
Reply-To: "Alex Chaihorsky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Scott D. Erb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
However, I suspect Marx would be spinning in
> his grave to see his ideas associated with Stalin or Mao. Ideological
> development is complex.
>
I have to address this before I address anything else, because I think this
is pivotal.
Marx was a monster. If you read Manifesto you will find:
1. Complete liquidation of private property
2. Loquidation of the family, introduction of "official, open mutual
ownership of wives"
3. Children taken from families are brought up by community (Hillary,
hello!)
4. Industrial armies, not employer - employee, (and that is from the guy who
LOVES proletariat!)
5. Central credit by central banks with total banking monopoly for the
State.
6. Age when children start working - 9 years of age (Resolution of Geneva
International Congress).
If this is not the most monstrous document in the history of the
civilization, please, state which one is.
This system was implemented four times almost totally - in Hitler's
concentration camps, Stalin's GULAG and Mao's re-educational settlements and
Pol Pots' Cambodia camps.
Partially - USSR, Red China, Vietnam, North Korea.
Superficially - Poland, E. Germany, Hungary, Mongolia, Czeckoslovakia
Why would Marx be spiining other than out of excitment?
Typical (I hate this word) socialist attitude - they all have aberrated
Marx. NO! THEY DIDN'T!
All socialists remain civilized untill they seize the power. Then the
Marxist bestiary begins.
EVERY TIME.
Regards,
Alex Chaihorsky
Reno, NV
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Subject: Re: Darwinian Evolution and open software
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 3 Apr 2001 10:29:47 -0500
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001 10:34:41 +0100, Beth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>No such thing as "random"...there's only chaos...subjectively, you can call
>something random, implying that, to you, it's random but it actually isn't
>in reality...
>
Symantics.
>
> [ -- big snip --]
>
>I understand your argument but I think you've placed the wrong emphasis...it
>is NOT a fair comparison, you're right...and, yes, it is _intelligence_ that
>makes the difference...BUT it is NOT correct to say that due to intelligence
>being present that evolution will run away or whatever you're implying...it
>is still there and this process still undergoes evolution...what _should_ be
>stressed is that intelligence has entered into the bargain...intelligence
>allows for self-analysis and immediate appraisal of new forms...this speeds
>things up immeasurably BUT that can potentially be a severe drawback...it
>breeds short-termism...
>
>You call for this discussion to be dismissed on the grounds of intelligence
>being present...I call for it to be greatly extended because of it...it is
>evolution BUT it's not the usual biological sort...it has extra and
>different influences that effect its evolution...there's a myriad more
>possibilities here, which have great ramifications...
>
>Beth :)
>
Your points are perfect examples of why everyone needs to first agree on
what "evolution" they are talking about before getting into a discussion
on the topic. "Evolution" has become so overloaded that frequently
people are actually talking about completely different things when they
are discussing "evolution".
Classic proponents of Darwinian Evolution, like Stephen Jay Gould and Dawkins
will DENY the presence of an intelligent agent in the evolution of life on
earth. The closest Dawkins will come can be found in his quote:
"Biology is the study of complicated things that give the appearance of having
been designed for a purpose".
Dawkins will allow the *appearance" of intelligent design, but will vigorously
deny the actual existence of an intelligent designer. As proponents of
Darwinian Evolution in the history of life, they are left with random
mutation guided by natural selection. They are so adament about this
that they have essentially created a religious doctrine based on the
randomness of nature as Creator.
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From: Eric Remy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: AMD is to Intel as "What OS" is to Windows?
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 11:39:20 -0400
In article <uIey6.30406$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "gbp"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>When Windows 3.1 was king OS users claimed they could run win3.1
>programs faster than Windows users could. I assume they were
>telling the truth, I've never meet one in person (because no one
>uses OS/2)!
We were out there.
IBM killed OS/2 in large part. The Workplace Shell was amazing (Still
more advanced than Explorer) but when originally shipped wasn't exactly
the most stable creature. Add to that the high cost of getting
development tools from IBM compared to MS and the lack of effective
marketing. (OS/2 Fiesta Bowl ?!?)
MS had a good FUD campaign going against OS/2 as well, and the combo of
all of the above just did it in. Shame. It's still around, but pretty
much in the same way Amiga is around- still used in niche markets. It
was a pretty OS: wish it was still viable.
--
Eric Remy. Chemistry Learning Center Director, Virginia Tech
"I don't like (quantum mechanics), | How many errors can
and I'm sorry I ever had anything | you find in my X-Face?
to do with it."- Erwin Schrodinger |
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 13:45:15 GMT
On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 06:04:38 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>silverback wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:31:27 -0800, "Dana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >silverback <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >> On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 08:44:35 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Scott Erb wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I couldn't believe the sudden torrent of fascist like threats and
>> >> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >> >
>> >> >Spot the character assassination.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >First of all, Fascism is a form of socialism. By now, it should be
>> >>
>> >> wrong clyde. Fascism is the polar opposite of socialism. Fascism has
>> >> always been a top down revolution to protect the interest of the rich
>> >> corporate owners. The fact that the fascist supporters are from the
>> >> top tier of society is enough to dispense with yer silly nonsense.
>> >
>> >They are just about one and the same. Socialism usually leads into fascism,
>> >look at Germany around 1930's to 1945.
>>
>> too bad moron.The Nazi were right wingers and advocated the same
>> fucking nonsense as what you do. Cut the taxes of the rich, privatize
>> large portions of government, outlaw unions, eliminate welfare and
>> unemployment.
>
>Hint: THOSE are not the attributes which made the Nazis bad.
> Hope that helps, sliverdick.
oh yes they were.
>
>
>
>--
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
>K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
>J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
>I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
>H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
>G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
>F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
>E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
>D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
>C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
>B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
>A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 13:46:01 GMT
On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 06:08:18 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>sliverdick wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 21:31:15 GMT, d'geezer@d'geezer.net wrote:
>>
>> >On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 14:00:00 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback) wrote:
>> >
>> >>On Mon, 02 Apr 2001 08:44:35 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
>> >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Scott Erb wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> I couldn't believe the sudden torrent of fascist like threats and
>> >>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >>>
>> >>>Spot the character assassination.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>First of all, Fascism is a form of socialism. By now, it should be
>> >>
>> >>wrong clyde. Fascism is the polar opposite of socialism. Fascism has
>> >>always been a top down revolution to protect the interest of the rich
>> >>corporate owners. The fact that the fascist supporters are from the
>> >>top tier of society is enough to dispense with yer silly nonsense.
>> >
>> >Oh Yes, Hitler came from the ranks of the aristocracy, his father was just a local
>> >minor government employee as a hobby. As was his mother of course.
>>
>> gee another fucking idiot. Guess who supported him finacically during
>> the 20s? It was the rich industralists. Hitler came to power by making
>> secret deals with them. How was it that Hitler was released from
>> prision after the failed Beer hall Putsch when others that had only
>> revealed to the press snipets of information that proved Germany was
>> rearming. They rotted in prision. And yes they were charged with
>> treason in the early 20s.
>
>Just as your pal Klinton should have been.
>
>
>>
>> Face it boob the only way Hitler gained such a release was someone or
>> many someones pulled strings for him to get out. And that means only
>> one thing the German elite.
>
>So, you admit that the elite support programs to oppress those beneath
>them, and then fail to make the connection between marxist oppression,
>and the fact that a lot of America's elite support marxism.
lloks like that single neuron this fool had just shorted out.
>
>What's wrong, sliverdick....cat have your brain?
>
>--
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
>K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
>J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
>I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
>H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
>G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
>F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
>E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
>D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
>C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
>B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
>A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>--
>Aaron R. Kulkis
>Unix Systems Engineer
>DNRC Minister of all I survey
>ICQ # 3056642
>
>K: Truth in advertising:
> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
> Special Interest Sierra Club,
> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>
>
>J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>
>I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>
>H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
> you are lazy, stupid people"
>
>G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>
>
>F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>
>E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
> her behavior improves.
>
>D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
> ...despite (C) above.
>
>C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>
>B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
> direction that she doesn't like.
>
>A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
***********************************************
GDY Weasel
emailers remove the spam buster
For those seeking enlightenment visit the White Rose at
http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/whiterose.htm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback)
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 13:48:01 GMT
On 03 Apr 2001 10:42:15 GMT, "Alex Chaihorsky"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> gee another fucking idiot. Guess who supported him finacically during
>> the 20s? It was the rich industralists. Hitler came to power by making
>> secret deals with them. How was it that Hitler was released from
>> prision after the failed Beer hall Putsch when others that had only
>> revealed to the press snipets of information that proved Germany was
>> rearming. They rotted in prision. And yes they were charged with
>> treason in the early 20s.
>>
>> Face it boob the only way Hitler gained such a release was someone or
>> many someones pulled strings for him to get out. And that means only
>> one thing the German elite.
>>
>>
>
>Many a discussion here sooner or later come back to Nazi-Socialist question.
>To get to the bottom - question to everybody: HOW HITLER GOT TO BE
>CHANCELLOR?
>I start a new tread with that title. Please, give me your opinions. Here are
>the facts:
>
>Historic facts:
>
>During 1932 elections
>Hitler got 11.8 million votes
>Social-Democrats 8.1
>Communists 5.8
>
>To be a Chancellor, Hitler had to have absolute majority. He never got it.
>If Communists would get into coalition with SD, Nazi would be outsiders.
>Nazi party was in deep financial troubles, Hitler thought of suicide.
>Communists declined the coalition and Hitler won.
>Why wouldn't Communists eliminate Hitler by supporting SocDems?
fact Hitler was appointed chancelor after a backroom deal with the
leaders of big business. The communist and Nazis were rabidly opposed
to each other.
>
>Alex Chaihorsky
>Reno, NV
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Baseball
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Date: 3 Apr 2001 10:39:17 -0500
On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 08:51:41 GMT, T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Said Matthew Gardiner in alt.destroy.microsoft on Tue, 03 Apr 2001
>>Cricket is not gay, NOW Gridiron, that is really gay, wtf is it with pads and shit?
>and
>>a 15'er after each tackle for christs. I've seen more action from a Microsoft
>>programmer than what happens on the field in a game of Gridiron.
>
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>
>But "gridiron" ('American football') is about *mass*, not *flexibility*,
>that's wtf with the pads and shit. Rugby (isn't that what you guys call
>your version of gridiron?) is for pansies, in comparison. You might as
>well play soccer.
>
The reason rugby players don't wear pads is because they get in the way
of touching each other's private parts while all piled up in a big
rugby orgy of love.
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