Linux-Advocacy Digest #491, Volume #33 Tue, 10 Apr 01 19:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Windows in space...... (Roy Culley)
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (Gamma)
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (Gamma)
"Space diary details IT headaches" (Dave Martel)
Article: Windows XP won't support USB 2.0 (Dave Martel)
Re: Darwinian Evolution and open software (Ronald Landheer)
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (Duane Bozarth)
Re: Another Newbie Here (Norman D. Megill)
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (Dave Martel)
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. (Mathew)
Re: Read this clueless Linux advocates... (Peter Hayes)
Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead. (akrson@!)
Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism) ("billh")
Re: Article: Windows XP won't support USB 2.0 (GreyCloud)
Re: Inktomi Webmap -- Apache has 60% now. (GreyCloud)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roy Culley)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows in space......
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:04:32 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chad Everett) writes:
> On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 10:31:53 -0400, Patrick McAllister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Probably a duplicate post, but if not, makes for a funny....kinda.....read.
>>
>>http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,42912,00.html
>
> This is worth a short quote, don't you think?:
>
> 2:00 a.m. Apr. 7, 2001 PDT
> .....
>
> The space station, which has been operational for less than five
> months, experiences almost daily computer glitches, according to
> the commander's log recently published on the Web.
>
> Most of the problems appear to be related to Microsoft's Windows NT,
> while Russian-made software seems to be more reliable.
Did Microsoft ever state that their SW would function in micro-gravity
conditions? :-)
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24hoursupport.helpdesk,alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gamma)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:03:29 GMT
Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Phillip Lord wrote:
>>
>> >>>>> "Aaron" == Aaron R Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>> Aaron> Which means that as soon as your on a new machine, your stuck
>> Aaron> editing WITHOUT your config file....
>>
>> Aaron> UGH.
>>
>> This is why God invented NFS mounted home spaces.
>>
>> Phil
>
>And if your behind a corporate firewall which doesn't permit
>NFS connections through it....
That's why God invented 3.5" floppies.
And if you're behind a corporate firewall WITH security restrictions
that prohibit bringing in software from the Internet...
That's why God invented other jobs. :-)
[You have a rilly long sig, Aaron...]
[snip]
--
Paul Brinkley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gamma)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:06:43 GMT
Roberto Selbach Teixeira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Randall Parker wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 06:00:03 GMT esteemed JLI did'st hold forth
>>> thusly:
>>> > For simple editing work vi is properly the best tool on UNIX.
>>>
>>> Does it do color syntax coding or language and library sensitive
>>> code expansion?
>>>
>>> Its been a long time since I used vi and it was the second editor I
>>> learned to use. But I think perhaps I should learn it again to help
>>> when administering Linux and Unix boxes.
>>
>> vim does.
>>
>
>And it sucks too! The obvious choice is (and always will be) FSF Emacs!
Holy war off the port bow!!
[launches "Notepad rules!" missiles, which promptly misfire]
--
Paul Brinkley
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "Space diary details IT headaches"
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:19:43 -0600
Another article on the Internation Space Station's computer problems:
<http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sci/tech/newsid_1270000/1270320.stm>
There's not any MS-vs-linux stuff, but some people were wondering
earlier about what the Russians were using on their laptops. Here's
one paragraph from the above article:
"Sergei notices that the Russian PCS laptop has locked up. He tries to
reboot, but the Sun application software won't load. Lots of messages
on the screen noting data errors. Sergei thinks that it may be the
hard drive," reads a typical November entry in Bill
Shepherd's log.
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Article: Windows XP won't support USB 2.0
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 14:24:09 -0600
<http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-5558916.html>
"The Redmond, Wash.-based software maker said it will not include
support for USB 2.0, the latest iteration of the universal serial bus
connection technology, in Windows XP, its next-generation operating
system expected later this year. Microsoft will instead throw its
support behind IEEE 1394, also known as FireWire, which was developed
by Apple. "
Microsoft says it's a quality issue, which is nonsense (what -
Microsoft, concerned with quality? <g>). A Register article a few
weeks ago asserted that MS's real reason is that USB doesn't offer a
content-control mechanism, and 1394 does.
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From: Ronald Landheer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Darwinian Evolution and open software
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:24:12 +0200
Paolo Ciambotti schreef:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ronald Landheer"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Paolo Ciambotti wrote:
> >> "Ronald Landheer" wrote:
> >>> [snip] but as everybody's using the word
> >>> "evolution" I'll just stick with saying it's a misconception..
> >> A fresh perspective is so nice to see here. Even though I disagree.
> > Might I ask why? (I snipped all of mine except what I think you disagree
> > with).
>
> Your term "maturation" would imply to me an isolated, sterile, asexual
> process. Conversely the term "evolution" conjures up the concepts of
> genetic intermingling, spontaneous mutation, and environmental selection.
Ah, yes.. my programs are all having a wonderful time..
> Linux is mutating by breeding with the beasts at the top of the food
> chain, like IBM and HP. Passing on dominant characteristics like the GPL
> chromosome to some fairly ferocious offspring, and in turn inheriting
> properties like journalled filesystems and SMP support. The software
> world is a highly dynamic noosphere, and whether or not Linux survives in
> a given environment doesn't depend on how mature it is, but rather how
> adaptable to sudden change it proves to be. Nowhere near classical
> Darwinian, but evolutionary nonetheless.
Nowhere near classical Darwinian in deed! Mutations aren't random, but
directed, and generations are very hard to define. All mutation seems to
be convergent and the genepool is homogenizing.. Additionally, in stead
of adapting to the environment when it changes, it *is adapted* to the
environment when it might change..
The problem: it is not alive - the people working on it are.
But you're right about two things: the word "maturation" is even worse
than "evolution", and it is a very dynamic process.
Greetz!
Ronald
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From: Duane Bozarth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:42:45 -0500
I requested info from Borland regarding the last version of Brief a few
months ago. First person I talked to (a quite young thing, very
friendly) hadn't never heard of it. Asked her to go talk to some of the
old-time developers (btw, what's chances there were any left from that
era? :-)). She reported back that "Brief technology (!) has been
incorported into the Borland integrated development enviornment"! and
"which version did I wish to purchase"?
Dan Miller wrote:
>
> "Dave Martel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On Mon, 9 Apr 2001 14:29:14 -0700, "Dan Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >"Craig Kelley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > >> "Paul Kinnucan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >>
> > >> I must throw in my vote for XEmacs/Emacs as well (XEmacs is just
> > >> prettier); although a programmer's editor is much like a choice of
> > >> underware: use what's comfortable for you, and avoid the ones that
> > >> rub you the wrong way.
> > >>
> > >So, you're recommending Brief?? It hasn't been available for awhile...
> >
> > Brief's the best programmer's editor I ever used. Despite
> > compatability claims I've never found another editor that duplicates
> > Brief's intuitiveness. Too bad Borland bought it up and then forgot
> > about it.
> >
> I agree... I used Brief for over a decade, and *loved* it... it's still the
> prototype for many of the capabilities that people expect to see in a
> Dos/Windows editor. I've always resented Borland's grab; if they didn't
> want to use the program, why did they buy it and kill it?? It's not like
> they were trying to protect turf for their editor, whatever it was called...
>
> But then, Borland has often been confused about what direction it was
> going...
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Subject: Re: Another Newbie Here
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Norman D. Megill)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 21:13:50 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Adam Warner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Redhat 7.0 now requires over 100MB of patches to download to fix a number of
> bugs and security issues since release. I'm looking forward to 7.1.
It's more like 200MB. I have a script (just updated it today) that
applies them all at once in the right way. (If you do them one at a
time following the instructions on their site it will easily take a
day.)
users.primushost.com/~ndm/linux/rherrata.sh
--Norm
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From: Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:04:36 -0600
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 15:42:45 -0500, Duane Bozarth
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I requested info from Borland regarding the last version of Brief a few
>months ago. First person I talked to (a quite young thing, very
>friendly) hadn't never heard of it. Asked her to go talk to some of the
>old-time developers (btw, what's chances there were any left from that
>era? :-)). She reported back that "Brief technology (!) has been
>incorported into the Borland integrated development enviornment"! and
>"which version did I wish to purchase"?
They're full of it. I used to use Borland C++ Builder 4.0, and the IDE
is only remotely Brieflike. Example: Under Brief you press Home once
to go to the start of the line, again to go to the start of the
current screen, and again to go to the start of the document. It
doesn't matter if you're already at the start of the line, pressing
Home once still consistenly takes you to the start of the line and the
second time always takes you to the top of the screen, etc.
Under Borland's version it depends on where you are. The first Home
takes you to the start of the line if you're not already there, but if
you are then it takes you to the top of the page. Similarly the second
home takes you to the top of the page if you're not already there,
else it takes you to the top of the document. So you have to stop and
think, which is to say stop thinking about your source and start
thinking about what your editor's going to do. The window-splitting
isn't anything like the same either, and for marking blocks you have
to remember to toggle between columnar and line-oriented marked blocks
whereas under Brief each has its own unique command.
There are lots of differences like that. Individually they seem small
but put them all together and they make the difference between an
editor that lets you think entirely about your code, and one that
fights you.
I've seen a lot of people ask where they can buy Brief, but Borland
stopped selling it about 5 years ago. I think it was on comp.editors
that someone said you can ask for it in alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc.old,
a pseudo-piracy group that specialises in old no-longer-available
applications. But of course one never knows what nasty little
surprises may lurk in pirated software.
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From: Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2001 08:23:48 +1000
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Sam A. Kersh wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (silverback) wrote:
>
> >On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 01:24:34 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis"
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>Goldhammer wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 09 Apr 2001 13:33:15 -0400,
> >>> Rob Robertson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Right. Fascism is characterized by the *state-directed* control of
> >>> >the economy,
> >>>
> >>> Hmm. Sounds like communism.
> >>
> >>Precisely.
> >>
> >>Communism and Fascism are merely different sides of the same coin.
> >
> >bullshit you lying sack of shit. Fascism is the polar opposite of
> >communism. They have nothing in common.
>
> both are built on state control of the economy and setting certain
> groups up as elitists leaders. Germany had Hitler; Italy has Mussolini
> and russia had Stalin.
So notorious Latin American, fascist dictators, such as Pinochet,were
really communists.
>
> The depths of silverbacks ignorance is amazing... Can't help but wonder
> if he's a closet commie. Look at his diatribes on capitalism and
> backing of redistribution of wealth aka "welfare."
>
>
> Sam A. Kersh
> NRA Patron Member
> TSRA, JPFO
> http://www.flash.net/~csmkersh/
> ===============================================================================
> "The right of citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary
> government, one more safeguard against the tyranny which now appears remote
> in America, but which historically has proved to be always possible."
> -- Senator Hubert H. Humphrey (D-Minnesota)
>
>
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Read this clueless Linux advocates...
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 23:34:14 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 08 Apr 2001 21:38:51 -0700, GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> WGAF wrote:
> >
> > "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >
> > > Just written by another Moron thats a sucker for more glitz! He was
> > > raised watching TVs' Madison Avenue garbage.
> >
> > As oppose to you who grew up God knows where watching Star Trek Voyager.
> > Goldhammer must've been your neighbor....
>
> At least I don't watch your shows... TeleTubbies!
Hey, that's an insult to the TeleTubbies
Peter
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From: akrson@! <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: another example of why Linux is brain dead.
Date: 10 Apr 2001 14:49:51 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
GreyCloud says...
>
>"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>>
>> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>> >
>>> Remeber the amiga? wanted to copy something, copy [file] from df0: to df1:
>>Plain
>> > English.
>> >
>>
>> Nice for newbies....too wordy for me
>>
>
>Pretty much sums it up actually. Its been a while, but in vms after the
>newbie got used to the commands, we could edit a local file for that
>user and shorten up the commands or make command aliases to their
>liking. Usually ends up looking like UNIX in the end.
>
>
>> > Matthew Gardiner
>> >
>> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>> >
>> > > GreyCloud wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > "kirk@do_not_spam" wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > I spend the last 3 hours trying to mount a CD on linux and finally
>> > > > > gave up. I wasted too much time. Booted windows NT, stuck the CD in,
>> > > > > and on I went to work.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > If anyone thinks this junk will compete with windows they must be
>> > > > > out of their minds.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > And before anyone tells me I am a newbie, I am not.
>> > > > >
>>> > > > I had a IDE r/w CDROM. with SUSE 7.1, kernel 2.4, and KDE latest and
>>greatest.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Wanted to burn some files into the CD (which on windows is a breeze).
>> > > > >
>>> > > > so I started KonCD (or whatver that thing is called that comes with
>>KDE).
>> > > > > of course , it did not see it and no reason is given. searching and
>>> > > > reading I found I need to build a new kernel with scsi ide emulation
>>mode
>> > > > > (imagin if someone on windows has to rebuild windows to write a CD).
>> > > > >
>> > > > > OK, I went through that, rebuild a new kernel, ran lilo and rebooted.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > now KonCD sees the device. I select the directory to write to the CD
>>> > > > (why the hell it wont let one select a file, but a directory is another
>> > > > > brain dead feature). So, it wrote the directory to the CD OK.
>> > > > >
>>> > > > Now another fun part starts. I wanted to read the CD. no chance. unable
>> > > > > to mount the CD.
>> > > > >
>>> > > > tried every possible combination and device (trying to figure name of
>>devices
>>> > > > on linux is another stupid thing, why does not linux have at least
>>something
>> > > > > like 'volcheck' on Solaris?).
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>>> > > I think that's why I like Solaris 8. Everything works and is adequately
>> > > > documented.
>> > > >
>>> > > > Then I started searching the net for clues, I found that I need to tell
>> > > > > the kernel at boot up some more hint. so added the line
>> > > > >
>> > > > > append "hdb=scsi"
>> > > > >
>> > > > > where hdb is my CD drive on my PC.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > re-run lilo and reboot.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > try again
>> > > > >
>> > > > > mount -r -t iso9660 /dev/hdb /some_directory
>> > > > >
>> > > > > no luck. same erros.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Yes, I have iso file system build in.
>> > > > >
>>> > > > try a dozen more mount commands, all the same errors. dmesg simply tells
>>> > > > me I have an IO error or some other cryptic kernel messages which gives
>> > > > > no clue as what to do.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > shutdown the PC, reboot to window, stick the same CD and it is there.
>> > > > > the directory I wrote on the CD is actually there.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > No rebuilding kernels, no telling windows any boot parameters, no
>>> > > > mounting, no trying to remember the device cryptic names. It is just
>>there
>> > > > > to use. as an OS should be.
>> > > >
>>> > > I think the only really good O/S will be one that can read and interpret
>> > > > a persons mind and then do it. In the real world, tho, it's not going
>> > > > to get easy. Try to program in Windows or UNIX... not really all that
>> > > > fun.
>> > > >
>>> > > I hear you. VMS is just the other way around... it uses an english like
>> > > > approach to the command line. Sometimes it can be too wordy.
>> > >
>> > > You just need to shed your linguistic bias.
>> > >
>> > > Not all languages use articles (like "a" and "the")
>> > >
>> > > For instance, most slavic langauges (Czech, Polish, Ukrainian, Russian)
>> > > have *NO* articles.
>> > >
>> > > the construct verb noun is proper grammar in those languages.
>> > >
>> > > as opposed to verb *a* noun or verb *the* noun
>> > >
>> > > >
>> > > > >
>>> > > > I can't believe this. why, I ask why, can't linux be as simple as
>>windows?
>> > > > >
>>> > > > anyone who think this stuff will challenge windows must be on drugs, and
>> > > > > I really mean that.
>> > > >
>> > > > Well, it can also be viewed the other way around... (win9x series)
>> > > > things don't work very well in windows either. Works fine for a while
>> > > > then it starts to degrade..
>> > > > The biggest problem with windows after about 6 months, is that it gets
>> > > > slower.. and slower...... and slower........ and
>> > > > s-l-o-w-e-r................. nows thats frustration. Windows can just
>> > > > drive ya to drink.
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Aaron R. Kulkis
>> > > Unix Systems Engineer
>> > > DNRC Minister of all I survey
>> > > ICQ # 3056642
>> > >
>> > > K: Truth in advertising:
>> > > Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
>> > > Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
>> > > Special Interest Sierra Club,
>> > > Anarchist Members of the ACLU
>> > > Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
>> > > The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
>> > > Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>> > >
>> > > J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
>> > > The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
>> > > also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>> > >
>> > > I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
>> > > challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
>> > > between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
>> > > Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>> > >
>> > > H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
>> > > premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
>> > > you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
>> > > you are lazy, stupid people"
>> > >
>> > > G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>> > >
>> > > F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
>> > > adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>> > >
>> > > E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
>> > > her behavior improves.
>> > >
>> > > D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
>> > > ...despite (C) above.
>> > >
>> > > C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>> > >
>> > > B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
>> > > method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
>> > > direction that she doesn't like.
>> > >
>> > > A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Disclaimer:
>> >
>> > I am the resident BOFH (Bastard Operator From Hell)
>> >
>> > If you do not like it go: [rm -rf /home/luser] and
>> > have a nice day :)
>>
>> --
>> Aaron R. Kulkis
>> Unix Systems Engineer
>> DNRC Minister of all I survey
>> ICQ # 3056642
>>
>> K: Truth in advertising:
>> Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
>> Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
>> Special Interest Sierra Club,
>> Anarchist Members of the ACLU
>> Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
>> The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
>> Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
>>
>> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
>> The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
>> also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
>>
>> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
>> challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
>> between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
>> Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
>>
>> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
>> premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
>> you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
>> you are lazy, stupid people"
>>
>> G: Knackos...you're a retard.
>>
>> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
>> adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
>>
>> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
>> her behavior improves.
>>
>> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
>> ...despite (C) above.
>>
>> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
>>
>> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
>> method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
>> direction that she doesn't like.
>>
>> A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
>
>--
> V
i have to agree with this also.
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From: "billh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,us.military.army,soc.singles
Subject: Re: OT: Treason (was Re: Communism)
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 22:55:01 GMT
"Roberto Alsina"
> >> >Read Exodus and Numbers. God instructed the Israelites to wage war
and
> >kill
> >> >entire populations. The quibble is using one verse from scripture to
> >state
> >> >all killing is wrong, when in fact, use of that one verse of scripture
to
> >> >support such a position is wrong.
> >>
> >> That's my point. God's instructions did not contradict this verse,
> >> though shalt not murder (kill), because God gets to decide who is
human,
> >> and anybody the Isrealites want to kill were simply excluded from the
> >> definition.
> >
> >LOL!!! Incredulous. You truly are clueless.
>
> How about this: "thou shall not kill" is a commandment from god unto
> humans. Those commandments are intended to affect the behaviour of free
> willing humans[1].However, god is not bound by that commandment,
> and humans lacking free will are not bound by that commandment.
The truer translation is "You shall not murder". We've been through this.
>
> God has been known to regret his acts in the past[2], so god could
> possibly be repealing, either for a period of time or permanently,
> his previous order (the commandments). However, if we accept
> that gos is ordering him to kill, he can not possibly be giving him
> a false order, because god doesn't lie.
To kill, yes. To murder, no.
>
> Thus, if a human kills under specific command from God, he is excepted
> from the commandment, because he is excepted from it specifically by
> god, the only one who can[3].
>
>
> Like it?
LOL!!!
> [1] If a human is not free willing, there is no need for god to give
> him commandments, is there?
>
> [2] See covenant.
>
> [3] No lower authority can declare a commandment void, agreed?
But the "lower authority" sure can misunderstand a commandment. You are
proof of that. Thanks for the laugh.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Article: Windows XP won't support USB 2.0
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:02:48 -0700
Dave Martel wrote:
>
> <http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-5558916.html>
>
> "The Redmond, Wash.-based software maker said it will not include
> support for USB 2.0, the latest iteration of the universal serial bus
> connection technology, in Windows XP, its next-generation operating
> system expected later this year. Microsoft will instead throw its
> support behind IEEE 1394, also known as FireWire, which was developed
> by Apple. "
>
> Microsoft says it's a quality issue, which is nonsense (what -
> Microsoft, concerned with quality? <g>). A Register article a few
> weeks ago asserted that MS's real reason is that USB doesn't offer a
> content-control mechanism, and 1394 does.
Didn't MS ever consider all of those USB devices people purchased??
Some enterprising company will make adapter cards and drivers for these
orphaned products.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Inktomi Webmap -- Apache has 60% now.
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:09:14 -0700
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > * Have You Heard...Compaq has been left red faced by a defacement
> > double whammy as two of its sub domains were vandalized by two
> > different hacking groups?
> > Publication: vnunet.com
> > Issue Date: 22 March 2001
> > Title: Compaq Websites Suffer Double Hack
> > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1119535
> >
> > This was the article.
>
> The article doesn't seem accurate.
>
> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.ols2.software-acq.compaq.com+
>
> Shows that on March 25th, the first site was running on Compaq Tru64 Unix,
> and only switched to NT4 sometime in the last week or so.
Well, it may not seem accurate, but an intrusion is an intrusion.
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