Linux-Advocacy Digest #564, Volume #33 Thu, 12 Apr 01 22:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: lack of linux billionaires explained in one easy message ("Quantum Leaper")
Re: lack of linux billionaires explained in one easy message ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor (Hansang Bae)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (GreyCloud)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (Peter da Silva)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft (GreyCloud)
Re: So much for modules in Linux! (GreyCloud)
Re: So much for modules in Linux! (GreyCloud)
Re: Pete Goodwin is in good company (Michael Vester)
Re: Article: Windows XP won't support USB 2.0 (GreyCloud)
Re: Blame it all on Microsoft ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Inktomi Webmap -- Apache has 60% now. (GreyCloud)
Re: What's your take on this story? (Microsoft opening up the MSOffice file
formats?) ("Jan Johanson")
Re: More Microsoft security concerns: Wall Street Journal ("Jan Johanson")
File Transfer by Null Modem Cord HOWTO (Bloody Viking)
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From: "Quantum Leaper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: lack of linux billionaires explained in one easy message
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 01:03:19 GMT
"Anonymous" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> aaron wrote:
> > Quantum Leaper wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > "." wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Clue for the clueless:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Help defrag
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Defrag defrags your hard drive. Run defrag to defragment your
hard
> > > > > drive"
> > > > >
> > > > > What systems came with this? It's funny, but I can't get it on 98
(no
> > > help
> > > > > command... I might check the oldmsdos directory...)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I just made it up a typical statement that illustrates the utter
> > > > uselessness of Mafia$oft's Windows help.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The fact that you thought it was genuine proves my point about
> > > > the utter lack of information in Windows Help.
> > > >
> > > Unless someone checks, alot of people will believe it true. Win98
and
> > > Win2K both had information in the help files on defrag, true is was
very
> > > short but it does describe what the program function, it didn't go
into how
> > > it does it.
> >
> > Ok..here's the actual text:
> >
> > Help keyword to find: defrag
> >
> > 1. Click here to start Disk Defragmenter.
> > 2. Click the drive you want to defragment.
> > 3. Click OK.
> >
> >
> > Anybody who needs this sort of "help" isn't going to be able to figure
> > out how to use the Mafia$oft help in the first place.
>
> what was that you were saying about forging your headers to make it
>
Also he seems to be apply to pull information from Window Help files,
easily. It does make one wonder if he is telling the truth.....
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,soc.singles
Subject: Re: lack of linux billionaires explained in one easy message
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:56:12 -0400
Quantum Leaper wrote:
>
> "The Danimal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Anonymous wrote:
> > > what is the per capita income in china?
> > > jackie 'anakin' tokeman
> >
> > Your tax dollars at work:
> >
> > China:
> > http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/ch.html#Econ
> > GDP: purchasing power parity - $4.8 trillion (1999 est.)
> > GDP - real growth rate: 7% (1999 est.)
> > GDP - per capita: purchasing power parity - $3,800 (1999 est.)
> > Population: 1,261,832,482 (July 2000 est.)
> >
> > U.S.A.:
> > http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/us.html#Econ
> > GDP: purchasing power parity - $9.255 trillion (1999 est.)
> > GDP - real growth rate: 4.1% (1999 est.)
> > GDP - per capita: purchasing power parity - $33,900 (1999 est.)
> > Population: 275,562,673 (July 2000 est.)
> >
> > Linux has a possible future in China. The lower Chinese per capita
> > income makes a free operating system much more attractive, even
> > if it takes longer to learn. I.e., the time of the average Chinese
> > person is ten times cheaper. Besides, they have to learn to read
> > Chinese, so it's not like they can have the same cultural fixation
> > with ease of use.
> >
>
> One problem, do you really want to spend 1/4 to 1/8 of your annual income
> to buy a computer?
lots of college students do exactly that.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: Hansang Bae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.shareware.programmer,comp.editors,comp.lang.java.help,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Need your recommendation for a full-featured text editor
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 01:06:40 GMT
> Hansang Bae <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I took my first HP41CV back to the store because (said I) RPN SUCKS!! AND
> >WHERE THE HELL's THE ENTER KEY!!!!
>
In article <WPiB6.662$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
says...
> You sure you didn't mean "equals key"? -All- the HPs have an Enter
> key. :-D
Well... there's my rpn brain kicking in again! I forgot that they were
called "Equal" keys! <G>
> You know, it's almost strange. Which came out first? The "equals"
> calculators or the RPNs? I think if equals had been as popular as
> they seem to be today, RPNs would never have been...
As long as you have engineers... "Equal" (non)calculators never had a
chance! <G>
--
"Somehow I imagined this experience would be more rewarding" Calvin
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:17:09 -0700
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > > Even compiled Java suffers many drawbacks over C++. For instance,
> Java's
> > > garbage collection makes any application that frequently allocates and
> > > deletes objects much less efficient than C++ which allows much better
> > > handling of memory.
> >
> > I think you have the memory allocation schema in C++ and Java backwards.
> > Java doesn't suffer from memory leaks. One screw-up in C++ by not
> > deallocating what you allocated and things go haywire.
>
> You are confusing two seperate issues. Memory management efficiency, and
> memory management simplicity.
>
> Most things that are simplified come at a cost in performance. This is the
> premise that Unix is founded upon, rather than making things simple, it
> makes them powerful and more flexible.
Ok. Point made.
As an aside to performance issues... National Sandia Labs has made
inroads to microprocessor designs to increase the speed by 50 times the
current technology.
Eventually, this problem won't matter anymore.
>
> With Java, you can't destruct a single object and reclaim its memory
> immediately, you must either tell the framework to perform garbage
> collection on all freed objects, or wait for the compiler to do it itself.
> In C++, I can control the exact object lifetime and it's associate memory.
> I can even reuse the memory without deleting it and recreating it through
> the placement new syntax, which means I can allocate a large heap of memory
> and reuse it with thousands of objects without ever having to delete it.
>
> Of course this is more complex, and you must be very careful when doing so,
> but it provides the power to efficiently use the memory in the way that it
> is best used.
Most definitely,... careful.
>
> > VC++6.0 still has problems with multiple inheritance. The MSDN
> > libraries show work arounds for this problem. Gnu C++ doesn't suffer
> > from these problems.
>
> You are confusing things again. VC++ 6 has no problems whatsoever with
> multiple inheritance. What you are thinking of is MFC, which has
> limitations because of it's use of static data that prohibit certain kinds
> of multiple inheritance. This has nothing to do with the VC++ compiler, and
> the same limitations exist under Borland or any of the other compilers that
> license MFC.
No, I've got the MSDN cd-rom set, and it distinctly shows the
work-arounds. Mind you that the MSDN set is huge with info. In
chapt.13 of C++ PRIMER PLUS by Stephen Prata has examples of multiple
inheritance. Some of these examples won't work under VC++6.0 while
these same examples work fine under g++. None of these examples use the
MFC classes.
>
> In the future, you might not want to get into an argument with someone that
> knows orders of magnitudes more about the topic than yourself.
If I were you, you shouldn't. Don't give up your day job.
I've been in this field since 1965.
Retired now, but now just enjoying the field.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter da Silva)
Crossposted-To: comp.theory,comp.arch,comp.object
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: 13 Apr 2001 01:13:19 GMT
> In the end, you've really got things entirely backwards: the only
> reason they were on the stand in the first place was quite clearly
> that they were involved with a huge corporation, of which the DoJ had
> decided to make an example. If a mom 'n pop company had done all of
> exactly the same things, nobody would even have blinked, not to
> thought of taking them to court.
The only part of this paragraph that might be considered controversial is
"of which the DoJ had decided to make an example." The rest of it is a
straightforward consequence of applying anti-trust regulations where they
are supposed to be applied.
> Of course, the DoJ picks its targets carefully -- they go after
> companies that not only have money, but that are perceived by their
> peers as leaders.
That's one way of interpreting it. Of course there's this little detail
that it's impossible for anyone but a market leader to *be* in a
monopoly position.
--
`-_-' In hoc signo hack, Peter da Silva.
'U` "A well-rounded geek should be able to geek about anything."
-- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Disclaimer: WWFD?
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:20:49 -0700
Douglas Siebert wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >really. Name one piece of microsoft code that didn't originate
> >on Unix or Macintosh.
>
> >Accuracy counts, so be precise.
>
> Microsoft Bob
>
> --
> Douglas Siebert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> I have discovered a remarkable proof which this .sig is too small to contain!
What about BOB? :-)
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: So much for modules in Linux!
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:30:10 -0700
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> In article <67835F9B1672E097.1B1624C955FB8E06.65DB69530C69BD68
> @lp.airnews.net>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> > Got this neat book you can buy.
> >
> > "Linux For Dummies" by Phil Hughes
> >
> > IDG BOOKS
>
> I believe I have this book. Sorry, but it doesn't help me much.
>
> --
> ---
> Pete Goodwin
> All your no fly zone are belong to us
> My opinions are my own
Hmmm... how about the Sams books? I have one and has quite a bit more
meat in it.
Also, seeing as its free anyway, I just go to sun.docs.com and download
the sysadmin manuals. They've got a lot in there. I read these thru
adobe acroread. Download the solaris 8 versions.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: So much for modules in Linux!
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:27:02 -0700
Pete Goodwin wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
>
> > Hi there Wintroll,
> >
> > "Steve,Mike,Heather,Simon,teknite,keymaster,keys88,Sewer Rat,
> > S,Sponge,Sarek,piddy,McSwain,pickle_pete,Ishmeal_hafizi,Amy,
> > Simon777,Flatfish+++"
>
> I'm none of the above. Losing your marbles or something?
>
> --
> ---
> Pete Goodwin
> All your no fly zone are belong to us
> My opinions are my own
Nope,... definitely not flatfish+++, thats for sure.
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From: Michael Vester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Pete Goodwin is in good company
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 11:39:34 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Looks like you have some company with your network woes.
> Albeit a different problem and of course the Linonuts blame the
> hardware. I'll bet it works fine under Windows though.
>
> http://208.185.149.153/webx?[EMAIL PROTECTED]%[email protected]
>
> Linux has an uncanny ability to turn even the simplest of tasks into a
> week long web search for what works right out of the box with Windows.
>
> Flatfish
Flatfish!!! Your back. Very glad to see you again. My favorite
wintroll(tm). What happened to the "++++"? Do you know why it is called a
flatfish now?
Try to set an "at" job to run every two minutes on NT. See how much time
it saves over the one liner using cron.
--
Michael Vester
A credible Linux advocate
"The avalanche has started, it is
too late for the pebbles to vote"
Kosh, Vorlon Ambassador to Babylon 5
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Article: Windows XP won't support USB 2.0
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:39:17 -0700
"T. Max Devlin" wrote:
>
> Said GreyCloud in alt.destroy.microsoft on Tue, 10 Apr 2001 16:02:48
> -0700;
> >Dave Martel wrote:
> >>
> >> <http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-5558916.html>
> >>
> >> "The Redmond, Wash.-based software maker said it will not include
> >> support for USB 2.0, the latest iteration of the universal serial bus
> >> connection technology, in Windows XP, its next-generation operating
> >> system expected later this year. Microsoft will instead throw its
> >> support behind IEEE 1394, also known as FireWire, which was developed
> >> by Apple. "
> >>
> >> Microsoft says it's a quality issue, which is nonsense (what -
> >> Microsoft, concerned with quality? <g>). A Register article a few
> >> weeks ago asserted that MS's real reason is that USB doesn't offer a
> >> content-control mechanism, and 1394 does.
> >
> >
> >Didn't MS ever consider all of those USB devices people purchased??
>
> Why should they?
>
> >Some enterprising company will make adapter cards and drivers for these
> >orphaned products.
>
> And these will continue to function properly on Windows for precisely
> how long, do you think? Will they wait for a service pack, or merely
> slip-stream the updates in with every application? Oh! That's right;
> they can just download the changes to your hard drive over the Internet!
>
> --
> T. Max Devlin
> *** The best way to convince another is
> to state your case moderately and
> accurately. - Benjamin Franklin ***
What in the world are you talking about?
Hp makes a usb scanner with their own drivers. Hp makes their own pcs.
If Hp puts in usb 2.0 so be it. About all the manufacturers I know have
a web site to download their drivers from for updates... not mickeysoft.
--
V
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Blame it all on Microsoft
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 20:40:57 -0500
"GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > You are confusing two seperate issues. Memory management efficiency,
and
> > memory management simplicity.
> >
> > Most things that are simplified come at a cost in performance. This is
the
> > premise that Unix is founded upon, rather than making things simple, it
> > makes them powerful and more flexible.
>
> Ok. Point made.
>
> As an aside to performance issues... National Sandia Labs has made
> inroads to microprocessor designs to increase the speed by 50 times the
> current technology.
> Eventually, this problem won't matter anymore.
They've been saying that for over 30 years.
> > > VC++6.0 still has problems with multiple inheritance. The MSDN
> > > libraries show work arounds for this problem. Gnu C++ doesn't suffer
> > > from these problems.
> >
> > You are confusing things again. VC++ 6 has no problems whatsoever with
> > multiple inheritance. What you are thinking of is MFC, which has
> > limitations because of it's use of static data that prohibit certain
kinds
> > of multiple inheritance. This has nothing to do with the VC++ compiler,
and
> > the same limitations exist under Borland or any of the other compilers
that
> > license MFC.
>
> No, I've got the MSDN cd-rom set, and it distinctly shows the
> work-arounds. Mind you that the MSDN set is huge with info. In
> chapt.13 of C++ PRIMER PLUS by Stephen Prata has examples of multiple
> inheritance. Some of these examples won't work under VC++6.0 while
> these same examples work fine under g++. None of these examples use the
> MFC classes.
Then provide such an example. I don't have C++ Primer Plus. I know of no
MI issues with VC++. There are template and other issues, but nothing
related to MI (except, as I mentioned, the MFC static data issues).
> > In the future, you might not want to get into an argument with someone
that
> > knows orders of magnitudes more about the topic than yourself.
>
> If I were you, you shouldn't. Don't give up your day job.
> I've been in this field since 1965.
> Retired now, but now just enjoying the field.
The fact that you're doing examples in C++ Primer Plus shows you have little
experience in C++. I've been writing C++ for over 10 years, and C for over
20.
Please, back up your claims with some evidence. You should be able to
provide a simple example.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Inktomi Webmap -- Apache has 60% now.
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2001 18:43:47 -0700
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > >
> > > "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > >
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > >
> > >
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > > Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > * Have You Heard...Compaq has been left red faced by a
> defacement
> > > > > > > > double whammy as two of its sub domains were vandalized by two
> > > > > > > > different hacking groups?
> > > > > > > > Publication: vnunet.com
> > > > > > > > Issue Date: 22 March 2001
> > > > > > > > Title: Compaq Websites Suffer Double Hack
> > > > > > > > http://www.vnunet.com/News/1119535
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > This was the article.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The article doesn't seem accurate.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.ols2.software-acq.compaq.com+
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Shows that on March 25th, the first site was running on Compaq
> Tru64
> > > > > Unix,
> > > > > > > and only switched to NT4 sometime in the last week or so.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Well, it may not seem accurate, but an intrusion is an intrusion.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm not sure I follow you. The article claims that it was NT4 that
> was
> > > > > breached, yet Netcraft seems to indicate that at the time of the
> attack,
> > > > > they were running Tru64 (and Apache). Clearly one must call into
> > > question
> > > > > the validity of the article at all if they can't even get what OS
> the
> > > > > computer was running correct.
> > > >
> > > > "The two sub domain servers, both running hackers' favourite
> > > > Microsoft IIS 4 on NT, were hit overnight."
> > > >
> > > > This is the part above.
> > >
> > > Note also that it says which web servers were hit:
> > >
> > > "One of the defacements on www.ols2.software-acq.compaq.com by
> > > Antihackerlink appears to have used the well documented Unicode exploit
> "
> > >
> > > And again, look at the link I provided:
> > >
> > >
> http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.ols2.software-acq.compaq.com+
> > >
> > > It shows that www.ols2.software-acq.compaq.com was running Tru64 with
> Apache
> > > at about the time the article claims.
> > >
> > > > "Compaq's main site, Compaq.com, runs the less attacked Apache web
> > > > server on
> > > > Compaq's own flavour of Unix, Tru64."
> > > >
> > > > I would say by all of this that MS draws more attention to hackers and
> > > > that hackers do breach the security. If UNIX was the target, I'd say
> > > > they would have a more difficult time. Not impossible, just difficult.
> > >
> > > Which is completely irrelevant to the point here. At least one of the
> > > breached computers was apparently actually running Unix, and not NT4
> like
> > > the article claims. That brings the entire article into doubt.
> >
> > I went to your suggested link. All I found was that
> > www.ols2.software-acq.compaq.com uses NT. Never mentioned the Tru64
> > UNIX as the server being intruded upon. But thats Compaqs problem.
>
> You appear to be blind. Look at the bottom of the page where it says "OS,
> Web Hosting History".
>
> See that table that says "Compaq Tru64" next to "Apache/1.3.11 (Unix)" next
> to "25-Mar-2001"?
I did. It says IIs ... that ain't UNIX my boy.
--
V
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From: "Jan Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: What's your take on this story? (Microsoft opening up the MSOffice file
formats?)
Date: 12 Apr 2001 20:49:01 -0500
"Adam Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi Jan,
>
> > It's not as the article makes it sound, you CAN output to XML but the
> > _native" file formats are still binary.
> >
> > In Microsoft Office XP, XML is implemented in several ways:
> >
> > a.. You can save Microsoft Excel 2002 spreadsheets and Microsoft
> > Access
> > 2002 database tables as XML.
> > b.. Microsoft Outlook 2002 views are defined in XML. You can modify
> > these
> > view formats in Visual Basic for Applications (VBA) code.
> > c.. When you save a document from Office XP as a Web page, its output
> > contains XML for rich display and editing fidelity.
> > d.. Smart tags, a new feature in Office XP, can be embedded as XML
> > inside
> > of Microsoft Word 2002 documents, Excel 2002 spreadsheets, Outlook 2002
> > e-mail (when Word 2002 is enabled as your e-mail editor) or Web pages
> > (when Office XP or one of the individual applications just mentioned) is
> > installed on your computer. Reusable smart tags can also be written in
> > XML and distributed to multiple Office XP users. From:
> > http://msdn.microsoft.com/office/xp/xml.asp and my own experience with
> > the product (RTM, not beta)
>
> Thanks Jan,
>
> I'd like to find out whether OfficeXP's XML output is as 100% capable as
> the binary format? (i.e. not just limited functionality such as RTF). For
> example, if Office gives a warning that you will lose functionality saving
> in this format it won't be very popular. Is there an option to save as XML
> by default?
>
> I'd also like to see the XML generated by a complicated Word document (say
> a thesis). Anyone have any sources or care to post one online?
>
> Regards,
> Adam
I don't think you read carefully - the answer is going to be no.
Besides, XML is terribly space inefficient - if MS did switch to pure XML
output you guys would simply change your bashing to then say a) oh, so they
changed their format AGAIN and b) oh, their files are so big and load so
slowly!
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From: "Jan Johanson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: More Microsoft security concerns: Wall Street Journal
Date: 12 Apr 2001 20:51:01 -0500
"Chad Everett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
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> >Ho hum... still browsing, still using FTP, still resolving dns, still can
> >remotely copy files and execute commands... ho hum...
> >
> >
>
> Alright! Thanks. Of course now you have not way to query arbitrary
> DNS servers...but that probably won't matter to you. Now if we could
> just get Aaron to change his headers.....
>
You know, I've never had reason to do this. Every time I've had to get more
than just a typical lookup from a DNS server it's because it was one I am
administering and I just went to the source and looked at the screen. I
really can't think of the last time I used nslookup. Is this another one of
those things unix people have to do and find it confusing when no one else
does?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bloody Viking)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: File Transfer by Null Modem Cord HOWTO
Date: 13 Apr 2001 01:53:17 GMT
For those looking for cheap easy connectivity between your Linux laptop and a
non-Linux desktop, a null modem cable is hard to beat.
First step: Make sure your non-Linux computer has a terminal programme that
can transfer files and a serial port.
Second step: Make sure the Linux box has mgetty installed and a free serial
port.
Third step: Buy the null modem cord and attach to both computers in the
obvious way.
Fourth step: Fire up the two boxes, and on the Linux box, login as root with
any old virtual terminal and type in "mgetty -s 115200 -r /dev/ttyS0" (for COM1
/dev/ttyS1 for COM2, etc.) On the other box, fire up a terminal programme and
use it to connect and login. I use VT100 emulation for this.
Fifth step: Enjoy!
If you have a laptop and havn't found out which networking cards to use with
it, this method can be used in a pinch for cheap file transfer. It'll be slow
for big tarballs, however.
With one of them BBS type serial port cards with the octapus cords, you can
have a terminal server desktop serving a bunch of laptops in an office. Even
better is to set up PPP with Slurp for Windows clients.
CAUTION: While the command line mgetty bit works, it works for _one_ login per
running of the command. That means you need some mechanism of looping it so
when a logout occurs, it's rerun automagically for the next person to login
with. You get to make a daemon.
Many people accomplish the above with agetty but that has the problem of
auto-respawning causing stderr messages showing up on the console. Since I
don't know how to stop the respawning, I prefer the mgetty method. The man
page for mgetty is straightforward for command line arguments to run it to
transfer files.
Besides laptop file transfers, it can be used to transfer files between all
the other OSes, so long as they have a term proggie and support a null modem
cord. Config Slurp, and you have the null modem PPP.
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FOOD FOR THOUGHT: 100 calories are used up in the course of a mile run.
The USDA guidelines for dietary fibre is equal to one ounce of sawdust.
The liver makes the vast majority of the cholesterol in your bloodstream.
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