Linux-Advocacy Digest #673, Volume #33 Tue, 17 Apr 01 18:13:05 EDT
Contents:
Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Communism ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Linux is for the lazy ("Adam Warner")
Re: To Eric FunkenBush ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day. ("Aaron R.
Kulkis")
Re: Linux is for the lazy ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: Am I ****? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000 ("Jim Knowles")
Re: Communism
Re: More Microsoft security concerns: Wall Street Journal (Peter Hayes)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.society.liberalism,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:59:52 -0400
Mathew wrote:
>
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> > >
> > > Aaron> Fulcanelli wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Walter Daniels wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > The Japanese Government(?) and Japanese business, are so intertwined
> > > >> > > taht there isd effectively no difference. This due in large part, to
> > > >> > > their decision after WWII, to "co-ordinate" business policies. There
> > > >> > > is a ministry, whose name escapes me, that literally controls research
> > > >> > > and development. No R&D is done, without their permission. IIRC, it
> > > >> > > also determines what can be imprted/exported.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Which, of course, means you have a state capitalist system, similar in
> > > >> > ways to authoritarian state capitalist systems in other Asian states,
>like
> > > >> > Korea and Taiwan, though each have moved towards democracy, and Japan is
> > > >> > democratic.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > None of that suggests Japan is fascist. Anyone who makes that claim is
> > > >> > ignorant about what fascism is, and engaged in hyperbolic rhetoric that
> > > >> > creates more heat than light.
> > > >>
> > > >> Good point. Fascism has always, by it's nature, been anti-democratic and
> > > >> to equate a democratic nation with Fascism is silly. Now some people
> > > >> might argue that the democracy is an illusion, like some Socialists, but
> > > >> they'd never do something like claim that a democratic nation is Fascist.
> > > >> Another thing Daniels doesn't know is that, in Fascism, the state
> > > >> *assists* big business in maintaining and increasing production, as
> > > >> opposed to acting as a burden. This would make the Bush administration
> > > >> more like Fascism than Japan easily.
> > >
> > > Aaron> Clue for the Clueless...most of the "corporate welfare", as Robert
>Reich
> > > Aaron> so succinctly put it...was instituted by Democrats.
> > >
> > > Lots was, but I expect most of that is now rolled off.
> > >
> > > Aaron> Republicans (and especially libertarians) advocate that the government
> > > Aaron> neither hinder NOR ASSIST businesses.
> > >
> > > Read the Cato (fairly libertarian) report on Corporate Welfare. The
> > > GOP is in it as big as the democrats were when they were in power.
> >
> >
> > And this absolves the Demoncrooks of guilt how exactly?
>
> It just shows that Republicrooks are just as,or more entrencehed than
> the Demoncrooks.Can you except this?
>
So you admit that the Demoncrooks are crooks.
Thank you.
Now, do the right thing and vote Libertarian.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.society.liberalism,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:00:48 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
>
> Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>
> >> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
> >>
> Aaron> Fulcanelli wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Walter Daniels wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > The Japanese Government(?) and Japanese business, are so intertwined
> >> >> > > taht there isd effectively no difference. This due in large part, to
> >> >> > > their decision after WWII, to "co-ordinate" business policies. There
> >> >> > > is a ministry, whose name escapes me, that literally controls research
> >> >> > > and development. No R&D is done, without their permission. IIRC, it
> >> >> > > also determines what can be imprted/exported.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Which, of course, means you have a state capitalist system, similar in
> >> >> > ways to authoritarian state capitalist systems in other Asian states, like
> >> >> > Korea and Taiwan, though each have moved towards democracy, and Japan is
> >> >> > democratic.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > None of that suggests Japan is fascist. Anyone who makes that claim is
> >> >> > ignorant about what fascism is, and engaged in hyperbolic rhetoric that
> >> >> > creates more heat than light.
> >> >>
> >> >> Good point. Fascism has always, by it's nature, been anti-democratic and
> >> >> to equate a democratic nation with Fascism is silly. Now some people
> >> >> might argue that the democracy is an illusion, like some Socialists, but
> >> >> they'd never do something like claim that a democratic nation is Fascist.
> >> >> Another thing Daniels doesn't know is that, in Fascism, the state
> >> >> *assists* big business in maintaining and increasing production, as
> >> >> opposed to acting as a burden. This would make the Bush administration
> >> >> more like Fascism than Japan easily.
> >>
> Aaron> Clue for the Clueless...most of the "corporate welfare", as Robert Reich
> Aaron> so succinctly put it...was instituted by Democrats.
>
> >> Lots was, but I expect most of that is now rolled off.
>
> Aaron> Republicans (and especially libertarians) advocate that the government
> Aaron> neither hinder NOR ASSIST businesses.
>
> >> Read the Cato (fairly libertarian) report on Corporate Welfare. The
> >> GOP is in it as big as the democrats were when they were in power.
>
> Aaron> And this absolves the Demoncrooks of guilt how exactly?
>
> In no way manner or form. The democrats are as bad
Then why do you keep voting for them?
When are you going to do the right thing and vote Libertarian???
HMMMMMMMMM?
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Adam Warner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is for the lazy
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:10:12 +1200
Woosh!
Brian's making a great point, and it describes something that's always
annoyed me (a little).
I thought Microsoft's renaming of "Profiles" to "Documents and Settings"
or the use of the name "Program Files" instead of "Programs" (which is 8
characters) was just gratuitous. The spaces could break some programs and
it introduces multiple paths (e.g. "Program Files and "PROGRA~1"). Worse,
copying the files can lead to renaming of the MS-DOS name.
In 2003 Microsoft will rename "Documents and Settings" to "Documents,
Settings and another category just so we can prove that a comma can be
used in file names" :-)
Regards,
Adam
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From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: To Eric FunkenBush
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:17:03 -0500
"Chronos Tachyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
message news:Re0D6.33892$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Mon 16 Apr 2001 10:58, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> > "Chronos Tachyon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
in
> > message news:SVKC6.28287$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [Snip]
> >>
> >> Wrong, I'm afraid. It *is* defined by the language. Surely you're not
> >> implying that it's possible to write a C++ compiler (targeted to a much
> >> larger and more [mis-]feature rich language) that can compile code as
> >> efficently as a C compiler, are you?
> >
> > If you're compiling a program that doesn't use C++, but only C, yes.
Even
> > while compiling it AS C++.
> >
>
> OK, let me get this straight. You're arguing that the only reason a
> printf-style "Hello, World!" compiled by a C++ compiler is so much larger
> is that it uses stdio instead of iostream? *groan*
Where the hell did you get that? I said that C code compiled as C++ is
larger because the startup code has to do more. I said that it doesn't HAVE
to be this way though, a smart enough linker could know to not include
exception support if you don't use anything that uses exceptions, and it
could know to link in the C startup code if no C++ features are used that
require the C++ startup code.
> >> This conveniently skirts the fact that, in C, an #include is usually
> >> harmless both to compile time and binary size.
> >
> > Not true. Put 3000 #includes in your program and see if it takes the
same
> > amount of time to compile as without them.
>
> I said "usually harmless", and I don't consider multiplying by two orders
> of magnitude to be a situation covered by "usually". Nobody seriously
> considered the idea of having pre-compiled headers until C++ was invented,
> because it's wasn't worth it before then.
Actually, pre-compiled headers were invented long before the first
commercial C++ compiler (borland), and in C-only compilers. Remember that
PC's were much slower back then, as were their disk drives and much of the
overhead of compiling was in disk activity. precompiling the headers was a
big win.
My point of the 3000 #includes was to show you that they *always* effect
compile times. even if you only include 1. Don't believe me? Write a
standard C windows SDK applicaiton, then use the precompiled header option
and see the difference.
> An interesting note: I did some experiments on a 2.4 ramfs filesystem,
and
> it seems that g++ is actually more efficient at parsing C headers than
gcc.
> I would attribute this to the necessity of having an efficient parser for
a
> complex language like C++; something tells me that two different teams
> wrote the C and C++ parsers in GCC. g++ seems to be roughly O(n log n) in
> number of lines when parsing C code, whereas gcc approaches O(n^2). Yech,
> bad algorithms.
Guess that blows your theory that C++ is always slower at compiling.
> >> It's certainly the case with g++. The problem is language bloat,
> >> especially exception handling.
> >
> > Which can be turned off.
>
> Yes, exception handling specifically cannot be turned off. You can't turn
> off C++, however, and that's my problem with the idea of merging C and C++
> compilers.
No, but you can make a merged C/C++ compiler parse code just as efficiently
as a standalone C++ compiler.
> >> > Yes, it's that big. Remember, it includes all of QT as well.
> >>
> >> No, it doesn't. Qt is already compiled as a shared library. You don't
> >> recompile MSVCRT40.DLL every time you write a Windoze app, do you?
> >
> > But you include the headers, which have to be compiled as well.
>
> Yes, I know. That's why C++'s compile times suck. In C, a header is
> nothing more than a bunch of declarations. It can define preprocessor
> macros, create new types, and declare new functions and variables exported
> by some other chunk of source code; none of those is terribly difficult to
> parse. In C++, classes, templates, and inline code can also be declared,
> and structs are just a special type of class.
structs without function members are identical to C structs. The standard
refers to them as POD's (or Plain old Data). Again, you are confusing that
of course, C++ programs *CAN* be more complex to parse, that it doesn't mean
it is *ALWAYS* more complex to parse.
> > Since the parser is entirely in the realm of the implementation, there
is
> > nothing preventing an implementation from giving extra weight to
commonly
> > used features. This would likely increase the compile time for less
> > commonly used features, but it would seem like a good compromise.
> >
> > ie, putting the commonly parsed features at the beginning of the search
> > tree.
>
> I think you're missing the forest for the trees here. My point is that
> it's a symptom of growing language bloat. Surely N, for instance, is
> unbefitting of a language that's meant to be little more than a glorified
> portable assembler.
And my point is that a C++ compilers added complexity does *NOT* have to
give you a hit if you're not using that complexity. Yes, in many compilers
today you do. But that doesn't meant it has to be this way.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Communism, Communist propagandists in the US...still..to this day.
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:14:23 -0400
Scott Erb wrote:
>
> "John A. Stovall" wrote:
> > If memory serves me, their support of the Greens started was part of
> > their propaganda offensive against the NATO deployment of Pershing
> > missiles in Europe.
>
> Yes, in the early eighties the Soviets hoped that the missile policy
> would decouple Europe and Germany from the US. Even 70% of Germany's
> conservative CDU was opposed to the placement of Pershing and Cruise
> missiles to counter Soviet SS-20's (a plan that came from Social
> Democrat Helmut Schmidt).
>
> The Greens early on were a collage of ideals, ranging from "red" Greens,
> who were radical leftists and had contacts with the Soviets and East
> Germans, to more conservative "environmentalists." They were also
> extremely anti-NATO and anti-growth.
>
> Little remains from those early Greens. In a fierce struggle in the
> late eighties and early ninties the "realos" (realists) won a power
> struggle for pragmatic politics, and most of the radicals left the
> party. It is now a more left-libertarian pragmatic party focusing on
> environmental issues.
...for now. If they ever get power, the libertarian precepts
will be tossed out the window.
Why? Because that's what happens EVERY time leftists get power.
> cheers, scott
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is for the lazy
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:20:33 -0500
I think there is a difference between laziness and conservation of energy.
"Brian Langenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9bhioo$ms8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> After some deliberation, I've come to the conclusion that Linux
> (and Unices in general) are built by the lazy, for the lazy.
> As proof of this, let's look through the whole gamut of
> UI tools.
>
> First of all, notice that the most commonly-used shell commands
> are two letters long (cd, ls, mv, cp, and so forth). Why not
> "list", or "move", or "copy"? Because that's too many letters
> to type, and so laziness prevails.
>
> Then there's the standard directory structure. These are
> typically three letters (/usr, /tmp, /bin, /etc.). Why?
> Because typing in long directory names is tedious.
> Laziness wins again.
>
> Notice that all the modern command shells support tab-completion?
> Yep, another point for laziness. Nobody wants to type in the
> whole name "foobar" when nothing else has the same name
> beyond "foo".
>
> Moving on a bit more, we come to X11. Here's a tool absolutely
> dedicated to servicing the lazy. Don't want to get up and
> walk down the hall to the server? Easy, just pop open a
> half dozen X clients from it and pretend you're sitting right
> in front of it.
>
> I'm sure many of you can think of more, but I think the point
> is clear: if you want to add a really successful feature
> to the Unix UI, make it a feature that facilitates laziness -
> because I'm really enjoying not having to do so much work... :)
>
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From: "Jim Knowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: rec.photo.digital,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Am I ****? HP Photosmart C500 and Win 2000
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:20:42 GMT
Who said anything about kids? It's me - I don't want to read that stuff. As
for kill-filing as a "solution" to gratuitous rudeness and stupidity, it's a
failure: you can't "kill-file" people like ignoramus until the damage is
already done.
What's wrong with expecting people to use polite language? Does polite
language just take too much self-control?
I guess we need rec.photo.digital.foulmouthed.children. I invite ignoramus
and his philosophical kindred to join. Get your revenge, deprive the rest of
us of your wit and wisdom. We'll suffer, but we promise not to whine about
it.
"Dreamspinner3" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9biah1$97il6$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I think what we're whining about is the fact that it is up to the parents
of
> any children who may read this group to censor them and make sure the
> material their viewing is appropriate....and that others should have to
tow
> the line and censor themselves because said parents won't/don't/can't
> whatever.
>
> "Jim Knowles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:P_1D6.598717$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Oh how I love CAPS.
> >
> > There used to be a guy (Mike someone? - I don't remember exactly) in
this
> > group who regularly offered abuse, insults etc. to reasonable
questions.
> > When his victims had the temerity to "whine" about it, his stock
response
> > was something along the lines of "you can't give insults, you can only
> > receive them. I can't help it if you (victim x) CHOOSE to be offended by
> my
> > answer. I have a right to say what I want.".
> >
> > I take it you would agree with him.
> >
> > Personally, I hope Mike gets a great big kick in the nuts. Then he can
> > decide whether he's RECEIVED one or not. But that will be his choice:
you
> > can't give them, only receive them. Then again, the nut-kicking habit is
> > just someone else's problem. Mike shouldn't give it any thought at all.
> >
> > So let's all agree that when people like ignoramus3489 post their
> pointless,
> > juvenile, offensive language, it's THEIR problem. And, by the same
> > reasoning, you presumably feel that when people like Big Bob offend you
by
> > "whining" about Mr. ignoramus, then it's THEIR problem, not yours. SO
what
> > are YOU complaining about?
> >
> > tsk tsk, you silly-billy.
> >
> >
> > "z0ck" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:OpZC6.1313$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > [posted and mailed]
> > >
> > > Next time, just kill-file the guy and don't complain about it. I
don't
> > want
> > > to hear it. Raising your kids is your problem.
> > >
> > > I swear WAY too much. Its a personality flaw that I try very hard to
> > > correct. You will notice that I don't post profanity. However,
> whenever
> > > someone else does, don't you think that's THEIR problem?
> > >
> > > I don't have kids because I don't want to deal with that stuff. I
> > certainly
> > > don't want to hear you whine about how hard it is.
> > >
> > >
> > > Big Bob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > Am I tacky would be have been a better question (Hint: answer begins
> > with
> > > a
> > > > 'Y'). That's 2 fresh new entries to the blocked senders list,
> possibly
> > > more
> > > > to come. Nothing like telling your kids they should use polite
> > language,
> > > > then clicking on a newsgroup....digital photography no less...and
> > finding
> > > > people with so little regard for others that they can't even ask a
> three
> > > > word question without displaying their tackiness in the subject
line.
> > And
> > > > then of course the 'guilt by association' of replying with subject
> line
> > > > intact.
> > > >
> > > > Kindly restrict your cross posting to newsgroups that appreciate
your
> > > > tackiness...photographers in general tend to have a bit more class
> than
> > > > that.
> > > >
> > > > Big Bob
> > > > "Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > > On 17 Apr 2001 12:31:28 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > (Igor3489) wrote:
> > > > > If it has TWAIN drivers it should scan the image straight into a
> > > > > program like Compupic or Photoshop...
> > > > > Try a demo version and see if they solve the prob
> > > > > >I bought an HP Photosmart C500 digital camera. I have Linux and
> > > Win2000.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Guess what, the stupid camera does not work with Win2000 because
HP
> > did
> > > > > >not write a driver for it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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Crossposted-To:
alt.society.liberalism,misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Communism
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:19:35 GMT
>>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
>>
Aaron> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >>>>> Aaron R Kulkis writes:
>> >>
Aaron> Fulcanelli wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Walter Daniels wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > > The Japanese Government(?) and Japanese business, are so intertwined
>> >> >> > > taht there isd effectively no difference. This due in large part, to
>> >> >> > > their decision after WWII, to "co-ordinate" business policies. There
>> >> >> > > is a ministry, whose name escapes me, that literally controls research
>> >> >> > > and development. No R&D is done, without their permission. IIRC, it
>> >> >> > > also determines what can be imprted/exported.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Which, of course, means you have a state capitalist system, similar in
>> >> >> > ways to authoritarian state capitalist systems in other Asian states,
like
>> >> >> > Korea and Taiwan, though each have moved towards democracy, and Japan is
>> >> >> > democratic.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > None of that suggests Japan is fascist. Anyone who makes that claim is
>> >> >> > ignorant about what fascism is, and engaged in hyperbolic rhetoric that
>> >> >> > creates more heat than light.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Good point. Fascism has always, by it's nature, been anti-democratic and
>> >> >> to equate a democratic nation with Fascism is silly. Now some people
>> >> >> might argue that the democracy is an illusion, like some Socialists, but
>> >> >> they'd never do something like claim that a democratic nation is Fascist.
>> >> >> Another thing Daniels doesn't know is that, in Fascism, the state
>> >> >> *assists* big business in maintaining and increasing production, as
>> >> >> opposed to acting as a burden. This would make the Bush administration
>> >> >> more like Fascism than Japan easily.
>> >>
Aaron> Clue for the Clueless...most of the "corporate welfare", as Robert Reich
Aaron> so succinctly put it...was instituted by Democrats.
>>
>> >> Lots was, but I expect most of that is now rolled off.
>>
Aaron> Republicans (and especially libertarians) advocate that the government
Aaron> neither hinder NOR ASSIST businesses.
>>
>> >> Read the Cato (fairly libertarian) report on Corporate Welfare. The
>> >> GOP is in it as big as the democrats were when they were in power.
>>
Aaron> And this absolves the Demoncrooks of guilt how exactly?
>>
>> In no way manner or form. The democrats are as bad
Aaron> Then why do you keep voting for them?
I don't, liar.
Aaron> When are you going to do the right thing and vote Libertarian???
Aaron> HMMMMMMMMM?
I do, liar.
Still going around forging posts to cowardly cover up your own
failure to read your own words?
--
Andrew Hall
(Now reading Usenet in alt.fan.rush-limbaugh...)
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From: Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: More Microsoft security concerns: Wall Street Journal
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:29:31 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 23:33:26 -0400, "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Jan Johanson wrote:
> > FTP? command line? this is the 20th century, that shit was old in the 80s...
>
> "The only reason I have seen so far is because I am standing on the shoulder
> of giants."
> -- Albert Einstein.
I'm surprised you didn't point out to him that it's the **21st** century,
and that's maybe his problem - not keeping up with the times...
Peter
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