Linux-Advocacy Digest #225, Volume #34 Sat, 5 May 01 18:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Daniel Johnson")
Re: The long slow slide to Microsoft.NOT ("Tim Robinson")
Re: Article: Linus Torvalds Replies to Mundie's Attack on Open Source
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (GreyCloud)
Linux a Miserable Consumer OS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 21:31:20 GMT
"Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Daniel Johnson wrote:
> > > And why was DR-DOS so lousy to build applications on, compared
> > > to the other OS's in it's market?
> >
> > Horrible memory model. Very weak services for
> > applications. It's just like MS-DOS basically.
>
> Answer the freakinig questions put to you...
> And why was DR-DOS so lousy to build applications on, compared
> to the other OS's in it's market?
The horrible memory model was the biggest
thing. Only DOS and clones thereof had it;
Windows could not succeed until it busted out
of it.
Also DOS offers very little in the way of
services for application programmers.
[snip]
> > Do you really want to have this argument again? You
> > positition *still* makes no sense, and you are still being
> > dishonest about those quotes.
>
> Listen you son of bitch, you'd better have your facts straight before
> you accuse me of lying. I will give you the quotes and references AGAIN.
>
> Brad Silverberg:"What the guy is upposed to do is feel uncomfortable and
> when he has bugs, suspect the problem is DR-DOS and then go out and buy
> MS-DOS or decide not to take the risk for the other machines he has to
> buy for in the office."
They didn't actually do it, though. Windows 3.x ran on DR-DOS.
Silverberg does not say otherwise, but if he did I would
point out that his saying it doesn't make it so.
> David Cole :"It's pretty clear we need to make sure Windows 3.1 only
> runs on top of MS-DOS or an OEM version of it."
They didn't do this either. Even the bug didn't prevent
you from running on DR-DOS.
[snip]
> > As a desktop app platform, it was certainly flawed, but still
> > way better than Unix.
>
> Why are you comparing UNIX to DOS, DR-DOS and Windows of that time?
Unix existed then, too, you know.
[snip]
> > It offered the services desktop apps needed- I've
> > enumerated some of them for you before.
>
> I have no problem printing. What problems do you have printing?
The modern Unix approach is for the application to
implement its own printing system, but only for one
type of printer- PostScript printers. That's better
than in the bad old days of DOS when you supported
every kind of printer you were going to use, but
it's still not so good.
It works best, of course, if you use PostScript printers
for real. All other printers need a conversion. That
can be done, but it reduces them all to mere bitmap
printers.
But even then, you have to generate PostScript;
this is work developers don't need. Windows
will do it for you; the same code that draws
to the screen can print too.
[snip]
> > > What "time" are you talking about now?
> >
> > Early nineties, really.
> >
> > Mind you, it is still true now. But most users
> > don't know enough about DOS to have an
> > opinion.
>
> Really. Just how smug can you get?
I don't know. Hang around and we'll find out! :D
[snip]
> > > Really? I have an integrated suite (Applixware) I can play music,
watch
> > > movies, surf the Net. Whats missing?
> >
> > Games. :D
>
> Games. Sheesh. buy a Nintendo.
I rather like PC games. :)
Windows 9x dominates in two markets;
home and business desktops. In the home
market, game support is *critical*. Unix
is just not in the, um, game.
> > But really, it's a question of quality. Windows apps
> > are *better* in the eyes of practically everyone, and
> > they are so because Windows provides the tools to
> > make them so.
>
> And what is wrong with Applixware, the GIMP, xmms, GQView, etc.
Got that in another post. Let's not duplicate
too much.
[snip]
> > Microsoft offered bundled software, yes, but so did everyone
> > else. Lotus and Wordperfect were not so dumb as to miss out
> > on *that*.
> >
> > [snip]
>
> What other OS vendor participated in forced bundling ?
IBM. IBM forced you to take their interner browser
with OS/2. The rapscallions.
But that's not what I meant. Microsoft would
bundle weak programs with strong ones;
that's the idea behind an "office suite". Office
didn't depend on Windows for sales, but
PowerPoint sure depended on Word.
The other companies did this too, of course.
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From: "Tim Robinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,alt.linux,alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: The long slow slide to Microsoft.NOT
Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 22:35:03 +0100
<SomeoneElse (SoneoneElse)> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >To name a few of the top of my head:
> >COM
> If Macroshit created COM, then why does IBM own the patent?
Try The Open Group -- http://www.opengroup.org/comsource/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Article: Linus Torvalds Replies to Mundie's Attack on Open Source
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 21:46:52 -0000
Ian Pulsford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spewed this unto the Network:
>Dave Martel wrote:
>
>
>> "What's ours is ours. What's yours is ours."
>
>Are you talking about M$ or the GPL?
>
He must be talking about MS. "What's ours is ours", because Microsoft
has "intellectual property rights" over the software that it paid
people to write. "What's yours is ours", because Microsoft's Shared
Source system would give Microsoft intellectual property rights
over code that is donated to them by non-Microsoft developers.
--
Have you re-installed your operating system today?
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 14:49:08 -0700
Daniel Johnson wrote:
>
> "Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Daniel Johnson wrote:
> > >
> > -snip-
> > >
> > > They *are* comparable products in the eyes of *developers*,
> > > though, and it's the developers who matter in this.
> > >
> > > They are platforms you build desktop applications on. And
> > > DR-DOS is a lousy one.
> > >
> > Was. Was.
>
> Yes it was. It hasn't been getting worse with time.
>
> > And why was DR-DOS so lousy to build applications on, compared
> > to the other OS's in it's market?
>
> Horrible memory model. Very weak services for
> applications. It's just like MS-DOS basically.
>
> Windows is much better. So is OS/2. So is
> Unix. DR-DOS wins only on being cheap in terms
> of memory and CPU needed.
>
> [snip]
> > > A wee bug, fixed by release. Not much of a hassle.
> >
> > As you have been told before, with names of the executives making the
> > quotes, the purpose of the AARD code was to discourage people from using
> > DR-DOS. The code that brought up the error messages was turned off in
> > the release version, but the message generation code was still there.
>
> Do you really want to have this argument again? You
> positition *still* makes no sense, and you are still being
> dishonest about those quotes.
>
> [snip]
> > > You mean a server OS. They were running a reasonably good
> > > desktop OS in 1991, with Windows 3. Macintosh were
> > > doing so long before, too.
> >
> > DOS/Windows 3.1 sucked... and suked worse than Windows does now.
>
> As a desktop app platform, it was certainly flawed, but still
> way better than Unix.
How about giving good examples that Windows 3.1 is better than UNIX for
desktop apps??
>
> > > I'm serious. DOS/Windows 3 isn't a great tool, but for
> > > desktop apps it was better than Unix is now.
> >
> > Defend your statement. How was 3.1 then, better than Unix now?
>
> It offered the services desktop apps needed- I've
> enumerated some of them for you before.
>
> It didn't offer the services Unix does, but then
> desktop apps don't usually need those.
>
> [snip]
> > > > Windows, depending on your concept of 'better'. DOS was simpler and
> > > > less confusing, which I believe is what "better" is supposed to mean
> to
> > > > the common user.
> > >
> > > I think you'll find that very few common users shared that
> > > view at the time.
> >
> > What "time" are you talking about now?
>
> Early nineties, really.
>
> Mind you, it is still true now. But most users
> don't know enough about DOS to have an
> opinion.
>
> [snip]
> > > It's a *server* OS; it does lots of fine things, but they aren't
> > > the right things for desktop apps.
> >
> > Really? I have an integrated suite (Applixware) I can play music, watch
> > movies, surf the Net. Whats missing?
>
> Games. :D
>
> But really, it's a question of quality. Windows apps
> are *better* in the eyes of practically everyone, and
> they are so because Windows provides the tools to
> make them so.
>
> [snip]
> > > For several years there was quite the battle royale between
> > > Microsoft and the old DOS vendors- Lotus 1-2-3 vs Excel,
> > > Wordperfect vs Word. Both sides just kept troweling on
> > > the features.
> >
> > And Microsft kept pushng those forced bundling licenses.
>
> Microsoft offered bundled software, yes, but so did everyone
> else. Lotus and Wordperfect were not so dumb as to miss out
> on *that*.
>
> [snip]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux a Miserable Consumer OS
Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 21:50:49 GMT
Linux was/is and will continue to be a miserable failure as a consumer
desktop OS until it wakes up and starts offering an end result that is
superior instead of an inferior result based upon theoretical superior
technologies.
Consumers want instant gratification and Linux is way out in left
field as far as that is concerned. A consumer can call a 1-800 number
they saw on TV and order the latest and greatest Pentium 4 system with
all of the bells and whistles including AOL or MSN for less than 2k.
They open the box plug it in and it works. Sure the scanner/printer
and modem are Win* variety, but who cares? It works. They have a
pre-load with all kinds of games, office suites and so forth. The same
Office suites that their children are using in school. My daughter
needed to a Power point presentation for French class the other day
(she is 15 and in 9th grade). Am I going to give her a Linux version?
Hell no!!! I want the CD I burn to run on Windows because that is what
her teacher uses. Why be a martyr?
Linux lusers like to talk about free applications. Well take a look at
the header page of Freshmeat for today 5/5/2001.
I sure see a lot of great stuff here....NOT :(
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Linux ethernet bridge rewrite 0.0.9
by Lennert Buytenhek - Saturday, May 5th 2001 17:08 EST
This is a rewrite of the Linux ethernet bridging code. Improvements
include support for multiple independent bridges, and functionality
with ethertap.
Changes: This version is much improved over the previous version
announced on freshmeat. See the Changelog for more info.
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: N/A
================================================================================
SimpleCDR 1.60
by John Tobin - Saturday, May 5th 2001 16:54 EST
SimpleCDR is a console-based, menu-driven front-end for Blade Encode,
LAME, OGG Encode, CDparanoia, cdda2wav, cdrecord, and CDRDAO. It is
used to copy data or audio CDs, encode MP3s, rip tracks, and master
data or audio CDs. Its straight forward, all-in-one design makes it a
very powerful utility.
Changes: Direct CD to MP3/OGG ripping has been added, eliminating the
need for an intermediate wav file. Setup has been modified so that not
all options need to be filled in for the program to work correctly.
Menus are now all color coded for easier reading.
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: Minor
feature enhancements
================================================================================
ProZilla 1.3.5
by Kalum Somaratna a.k.a. Grendel - Saturday, May 5th 2001 16:52 EST
ProZilla is a multi-threaded download accelerator for Linux which
supports both HTTP and FTP protocols. It makes multiple connections to
the server and downloads the file in portions, thus giving a much
better speed rate than the conventional download programs which use a
single connection. Resuming connections is fully supported and
customisable. The new FTPSearch feature enables retrieving of mirrors,
and also pings them to select the fastest server available. Both the
number of mirrors to retrieve and the number of servers to ping at
once are fully customisable.
Changes: The Referer Tag for HTTP has been added. Periodically (every
5 minutes), ProZilla tries to log in to the FTP server, to see whether
a user has disconnected and whether it can take advantage of this. It
now checks and warns about free diskspace before rebuilding the file.
Backup ftpsearch servers have been added, so that if Lycos changes its
ftpsearch location again, there is a backup ftpsearch server to fall
back upon. A few typos have been fixed.
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: Minor
feature enhancements
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JIGS 1.3.0
by Nicola Pero - Saturday, May 5th 2001 16:22 EST
JIGS (Java Interface for GnuStep) allows Java programmers to use the
GNUstep libraries from Java, but it is more than a set of bindings for
GNUstep from Java: it takes advantage of the fact that Objective-C and
Java are very similar languages to make it possible to use Objective-C
classes from Java using exactly the same API (and vice versa).
Moreover, JIGS can generate automatically wrappers for your own
Objective-C GNUstep libraries.
Changes: Implementation of morphing Boolean and number objects, and a
fix for a fatal bug in the selector mapping code.
License: GNU Lesser General Public License (LGPL) - Release focus:
Major feature enhancements
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XPilot 4.3.2
by XPilot - Saturday, May 5th 2001 16:21 EST
XPilot is a graphical multi-player maneuvering game with less-exciting
graphics, but more speed, tactics, and insults. Some people also use
it for UDP network analysis. Over the past eight years of playing and
development, tons of features have been added to the game, from basic
weapons like shotguns and missiles to more recent ones like phasing
devices, invisibility, or hyperjump.
Changes: Fixes for a nasty bug in saving the configuration and some
Windows compilation issues.
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: Major
bugfixes
================================================================================
Smurf Sound Font Editor 0.52.1
by Josh Green - Saturday, May 5th 2001 16:20 EST
Smurf is a GTK-based sound font editor. Sound font files are a
collection of audio samples and other data that describe instruments
for the purpose of composing music. Sound fonts do not describe the
music itself, but rather the sounds of the instruments. These
instruments can be composed of any digitally recordable or generated
sound. This format provides a portable and flexible sound synthesis
environment that can be supported in hardware or software.
Changes: Workarounds for bugs in ALSA <= 0.5.10b, including problems
with sample caching (kernel oopses) and bi-directional sequencer
access.
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: Minor
bugfixes
================================================================================
Cheetah Web Browser 0.05 (Alpha)
by Garett Spencley - Saturday, May 5th 2001 15:31 EST
The Cheetah Web Browser is a project that has been started to create a
fast, light-weight, bloat-free, open source web browser for Linux and
other free unix clones that is not dependant on any other browser
(such as mozilla) and is not bound to a particular desktop (such as
GNOME and KDE).
Changes: Initial HTML rendering (text and links), GUI support for
mutliple windows, and lots of bugfixes and code cleanups.
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: Major
feature enhancements
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eboard 0.1.6 (Development)
by Felipe Bergo - Saturday, May 5th 2001 15:31 EST
eboard is a chess board interface for ICS (Internet Chess Servers,
like FICS) and chess engines (like Crafty) based on the GTK+ toolkit.
It provides a friendly user interface with input history, locked
scroll back, and multiple board windows.
Changes: Some bugfixes in the FICS protocol, more customization
options, and game examination support.
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: Major
bugfixes
================================================================================
WLA DX 7.4.1
by Ville Helin - Saturday, May 5th 2001 15:30 EST
WLA DX is yet another macro assembler that can program the GB-Z80,
Z80, 6502, 6510, and 65816 CPUs. Included in the package there is a
GB-Z80 disassembler and few converters. WLA DX was initially
programmed to compile ROM images for Gameboy, but nowadays it can also
patch existing ROM images with code, and even compile program files
and ROM files for other CPUs like the NES-6502 and C64-6510.
Changes: A fix for a bug introduced in memory overwrite check
enhancements that causes WLALINK to screw up FREE/SEMIFREE sections.
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: Minor
bugfixes
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ECLiPt Roaster 2.0.9
by Martin Preishuber - Saturday, May 5th 2001 15:28 EST
ECLiPt Roaster is a GNOME interface to MkIsoFs and CDRecord which can
be used for writing data & audio CDs and ISO images on the fly.
Changes: Multisession support, much better integration with konqueror
and nautilus, compatibility with Python 2.x, and many bugfixes.
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: Major
bugfixes
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Ampache 1.07
by Scott Kveton - Saturday, May 5th 2001 15:27 EST
Amache is yet another Web-based MP3 manager. Using mod_mp3 for Apache
and PHP to render the pages, it allows you to view, edit, and play
your MP3s via HTTP. It has support for playlists, artist and album
views, random play streams, etc.
License: Freeware - Release focus: Initial release
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Deity RPG 0.0.3
by Alexandre BERAUD - Saturday, May 5th 2001 15:08 EST
Deity is a 2D role playing game using Gtk+ and Imlib2. Its aim is to
give complete freedom to the player in an autonomous world. Quests and
strategical events are randomly generated, depending on the player's
actions.
Changes: Better character movements, complete objects handling, and an
enhanced creation window.
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: Minor
feature enhancements
================================================================================
Simple Allpurpose New Diarykeeper 0.1.1
by Per Jonsson - Saturday, May 5th 2001 15:07 EST
Sand is a tool for keeping your diary. It handles storing of the diary
and outputting it in different formats.
Changes: A fix for a bug causing crashes in some situations, and
support for note titles.
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: Minor
feature enhancements
================================================================================
rute 0.9.1
by Paul Sheer - Saturday, May 5th 2001 15:01 EST
Rute (Rute Users Tutorial and Exposition) is a book on GNU/Linux that
aims to be the definitive guide for new users as well as sufficing as
training course material, covering both the RHCE and LPI requirements.
It covers essential theory to UNIX as well as giving practical
tutorials on all fundamental aspects of Unix administration, from
basic commands, the theory of TCP/IP, the Linux filesystem, through to
configuration of mail, DNS, and other servers, through hardware
configuration and package management. It is not Unix-specific but
tends to give examples suited to Debian and RedHat-like systems. Rute
comes in HTML, PostScript, and PDF formats.
Changes: Many new chapters and sections.
License: Free To Use But Restricted - Release focus: Major feature
enhancements
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KLCC 0.3
by Peter Simonsson - Saturday, May 5th 2001 14:58 EST
KLCC is a KDE client for the LineControl server, a program that
controls your Internet connection.
Changes: New actions in the system tray menu, new options to connect
to server on startup and to go online on connect, cleanups to
lineselection, full compliance of LCP3 -> LCP3.2, translation to
Swedish, and more.
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: Initial
release
================================================================================
CGINews 1.03
by Markus Triska - Saturday, May 5th 2001 14:53 EST
CGINews allows you to remotely add news entries to a site. It features
adding, changing, and deleting of entries, multi-user functionality,
sections, access levels, logs, highly-configurable layout, and more.
It supports file upload and binary attachments.
Changes: Much-improved security, a fix for preview, and more templates
(for editing of sent news and file upload).
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: Major
security fixes
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GNOME Installation Guide 1.4/B
by karsten reincke - Saturday, May 5th 2001 14:48 EST
The GNOME Installation Guide was written to help unfamiliar users
install a stable GNOME system that includes more than the default
applications. It teaches readers how to compile GNOME on their own
instead of installing precompiled packages. It also covers
installation of extra GNOME programs, both those hosted by the GNOME
project and those which are not.
Changes: This release contains the integration of new more or less
loosely associated GNOME applications, and updating of many already
integrated GNOME applications.
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: N/A
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SATGUI Beta 1
by SATiSOFT - Saturday, May 5th 2001 14:44 EST
SATGUI is a framework for developing simple GUI client/Unix server
applications. It uses a simple, easy-to-learn screen layout language
(SAT/DL). The backend applications can be developed in almost any
character-based language (shell script/Perl/AWK/C/etc.), and a basic
interface to MySQL databases (SATMYSQL) is also available.
Changes: This release contains a server administration/monitor/control
GUI, toolbar support (with balloon help), pop-up action confirmation
dialog support, new inverse/bold/title/green/yellow options for
addLabel, new green/yellow options for setMessage, a facility to pass
a specified column of MultiList as a parameter, and bug fixes.
Connection failure has been tidied up.
License: Freeware - Release focus: Major feature enhancements
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fwanalog 0.2.1
by Bal�zs B�r�ny - Saturday, May 5th 2001 14:42 EST
fwanalog is a shell script that parses and summarizes firewall
logfiles. It understands logs from BSD ipf, Linux 2.2 ipchains and 2.4
iptables. It uses the excellent log analysis program Analog (also free
software) to create its reports. It does so by converting the firewall
log into a fake web server log and calling Analog with a modified
configuration.
Changes: Analog 5.0 compatibility, new Analog functions (pie charts,
etc.), and an iptables format bugfix.
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: Minor
bugfixes
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OpenACS 3.2.5
by Ben Adida - Saturday, May 5th 2001 14:40 EST
OpenACS is the ArsDigita Community System written for the Oracle
RDBMS, ported to PostgreSQL. It is an advanced Web toolkit that
focuses on collaboration, and includes over 40 modules.
Changes: OpenACS 3.2.5 fixes a slew of small and medium bugs in many
modules, including Intranet, Ecommerce, BITS (Bug and Issue Tracking
System), and many others. OpenACS 3.2.5 also includes the new Photo DB
module, which allows users to maintain their photography collection
online. Read the complete release notes for more information.
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: Major
bugfixes
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xclip 0.04
by Kim Saunders - Saturday, May 5th 2001 14:37 EST
xclip is a command line utility that provides an interface to the X
selection (the clipboard) from the command line. It can read data from
standard in or a file and place it in the X selection for pasting into
other X applications. xclip can also print the X selection to standard
out, which can be piped to a file or another program.
Changes: The use of getop_long() has been changed to
XrmParseCommand(), a function in xlib, for portability (apparently
System V Unix derived machines don't have getopt_long(), but
XrmParseCommand() is part of xlib, and hence should always be
available). XrmParseCommand ignores ambiguous options (-ver gets
ignored, instead of going to -verbose or -version), and doesn't do
multiple options with one hyphen (-if instead of -i -f). The -out (out
mode) and -filter (print stdin back to stdout) options have been
added.
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: Major
feature enhancements
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fax4CUPS 1.12
by Sebastiano Vigna - Saturday, May 5th 2001 14:36 EST
fax4CUPS is a very simple GPL'd shell script that acts as a CUPS
backend for a serial faxmodem. Essentially, you print with lpr and the
fax is sent. The nice thing is that you have CUPS around, and this
means, for instance, that you can check whether your fax has been sent
just using your favorite browser (as you would do for any other
printer), even if the faxmodem is really on a remote server.
Changes: Accessibility from the KDE graphical frontend (you can even
choose the number to dial).
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: Minor
feature enhancements
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POSIX 1003.1b clock/timer patch 2.4.4
by Robert H. de Vries - Saturday, May 5th 2001 14:32 EST
This is a patch for the Linux kernel's clock/timer code, and it is
derived from a patch from the University of Kansas. It includes
modifications for all architectures for the system call numbers and
other things. The core facilities are architecture independent.
Changes: This release is a port to kernel 2.4.4.
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: Minor
feature enhancements
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NBC-VBI - Linux [EMAIL PROTECTED] saver 0.32
by Marco Kraus - Saturday, May 5th 2001 14:31 EST
NBC-VBI is a recording tool for the German Radio.MP3 (operated by
MusicPlay), which can be received in Germany via NBC Europe (cable
network) and uses the vertical blanking interval of television signals
to send the MP3-data. NBC-VBI provides automatic MP3-saver-functions,
a cover-saver, filter system, dupe-check, and more.
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: Initial
release
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Fade Router Administrator 0.55
by Jon Tungland - Saturday, May 5th 2001 14:31 EST
Faroa (Fade Router Administrator) is a PHP-script to control the
isdnctrl package. It uses MySQL to store data.
License: GNU General Public License (GPL) - Release focus: Initial
release
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Most of this stuff might as well be Greek to the average user. Command
Line CDRW applications? Maybe 10 years ago but now? Get real already!
But yet this is what Linux is all about. A collection of disjointed,
half done applications of dubious quality that virtually nobody is
using on the desktop.
Linux?
Sorry.......Not even close to an option for most users.
Flatfish
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