Linux-Advocacy Digest #606, Volume #34 Fri, 18 May 01 19:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Daniel Johnson")
Linux Mandrake Sucks!!!! (wendy)
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Daniel Johnson")
Re: Linux takes Hollywood by storm! (.)
Discuss Linux Here! Flame Kulkis Somewhere Else Please! ("spicerun")
Re: Linux Mandrake Sucks!!!! (pip)
Re: Dell Meets Estimates ("2 + 2")
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) (worlok)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (Ray Fischer)
Re: Why did Eazel shutdown? (Anonymous)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (Ray Fischer)
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop (Ray Fischer)
Re: Linux beats Win2K (again) ("Gary Hallock")
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! ("Daniel Johnson")
Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop ("Rich Soyack")
Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:3 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN) (Fulcanelli)
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From: "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 22:10:59 GMT
"Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Daniel Johnson wrote:
[snip]
> > I usually say: "That's not what they said", actually.
>
> You totally disregard direct quotes.
Only sometimes!
[snip]
> > You are very good at typing "stole". You get
> > a lot of practice. :D
>
> They stole the market place.
Do you, like, do 50 of thoes every morning? :d
> > But the reason Windows is so successful is because
> > the apps run on it.
>
> Developers write the apps, becasue windows is the dominant OS. ANd m$
> stole the marketplace to get to their position.
No way. If this were true all the developers would have switched
to Windows once it was dominant- and they didn't.
Game developers as a block stayed with DOS. And
there are other examples too, though not so stark.
[snip]
> > > Yeah. They buy what everyone else has.
> >
> > ... for good and sensible reasons! :D
>
> becasue window$ is the dominant OS. Its what "everyone else" has. And m$
> stole the marketplace.
You've not given any reason for *anyone* to care
about that, per se.
[snip]
> > > Well genius, why do you think there's not much app development going
on
> > > for Commodre 64/128, Apple II, Tandy Color Computer, Atari ST, etc?
> >
> > Well, The first 5 machines listed there are 8-bit
> > computers- first generation PCs, and they really
> > really really suck hard compared to even the
> > original IBM PC.
>
> Thats crap. When the PC came out it was unfavorably compared with
> Tandy's CP/M machines... but since no one was ever fired for buying
> IBM... and the PC was running M$-DO$...
None of the machines you mentioned are CP/M machines.
The PC was better than any CP/M machine; MS-DOS
was very close to CP/M but a little more user
friendly (you know COPY instead of PIP, that
sort of thing). It could take more memory and
had a 16-bit ALU.
> > Really. The IBM PC won because it wasn't
> > just better than its competitors at the time,
> > it was a *lot* better.
>
> BWahahahhahahhaha... ahahahahhahahhah. You're very funny at time.
It *was*. Those old 8-bit machines were
awful. They could address 64k; the ones
that had 128k used bank switching, which
is horrid.
[snip]
> > You wouldn't buy the apps either if you had
> > ever used them. Those computers can't support
> > halfway decent apps.
>
> They could support great apps at the time. I was using Appleworks with 1
> meg of memory when the DOS world thought 640k was all teh memory you
> needed.
Apple IIs could directly address 48k of RAM, but
with bank switching could get to more. 64k wasn't
too bad; after that you were bank switching like
a maniac. It was very problematic.
IBM PC's could do the same thing; it was
called expanded memory, and you could access
>640k that way.
It's a horrible hack in any computer, but
even that works better on the IBM PC.
On the PC your back was 64k in size-
on an Apple II it was 16k. You could
work in bigger chunks on the PC, a
definite plus.
> > Not even as well as DOS did. They made
> > DOS look really good, actually.
[snip- problems of the 8-bit PCs]
>
> YEah. right. sidestep. Throw up some dust.
No, no, those problems were real. IBM PCs
were much, much better.
Relatively speaking.
[snip]
> > > but they ... stuck... with ...micro$oft.
> >
> > DOS, not necessarily MS-DOS.
>
> M4-DO$
Hmm? M4 DOS?
[snip]
> > Game developers were like other developers-
> > they switched when switching would allow
> > them to produce a more competitive product,
> > and only then.
>
> ... a competitive product made by ... micro$oft.
You know, that comment makes it way too obvious
that you didn't actually bother to read the paragraph
you were responding to.
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From: wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux Mandrake Sucks!!!!
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 22:11:12 GMT
I tried to install Mandrake 8.0 on my Athlon based system and it
virtually destroyed all of my data.
It overwrote my Bootmagic bootloader with some "grubby" thing and
rendered my win 2000 partition useless.
I lugged the entire system to CompUSA where I bought it and they got
it back for me thank goodness without any data loss.
They also told me that they get many customers in there who try to
install Linux and it trashes their systems....
What a piece of crap this Linux garbage is...
And before you tell me everything I have done wrong I told Linux to
install on the Linux drive, not the mbr. It still put that grubby
thing in there.
Good name for a linux program..
wendy
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From: "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 22:18:11 GMT
"Rick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Daniel Johnson wrote:
> > > Indeed, he is, because it is reasonable.
> >
> > I dunno. Seems like he's insulting the
> > intelligence of, well, practically everyone.
>
> They buy what "everyone else" has. Thats the whole point of
> monopolizaiont, you know. To make sure you are THE vendor.
I think you need to sit down and think that
through again. Are you *sure* the whole point of
monopolization is to appeal to herd instincts?
Is that really consistant with the other things
you like to claim?
[snip]
> > They *are* buying apps. In cardboard boxes, even.
> >
> > Doesn't do them any good unless they have a computer
> > than can run them though.
> >
> > So they buy that too.
> >
> > Nobody buys Windows to play Solitare, you know.
> >
>
> I given my students a choice between cards and a computer to play
> solitaire. None of them has taken the cards.
They must think you are very silly then. :D
I doubt they have to pay for that computer;
if they did they'd take the cards.
[snip]
> > I know what you are saying; but you are mistaken. You've
> > put the cart before the horse.
>
> Intel/clone based computers are percieved as the cheapest computers. m$
> has illegally monopolized the OS market. You still dont get it.
Are you suggesting that x86 computers are *not* the cheapest?
[snip]
> > > As are 'wintrolls'. Most realize they shouldn't admit to it, since it
> > > is a label for people who are dishonest, and nobody would voluntarily
> > > accept it.
> >
> > Apparently I do not realize I should not admit it, since
> > I just called myself a Wintroll.
>
> And. therefore, you support one of the moet immoral and unethical
> companies in existance.
Yes, yes, we *know* you don't like them.
[snip]
> > > But, even still, users buying Windows computers are
> > > completely rational, and that is why monopolization is illegal, since
> > > Windows is *obviously* not the most efficient OS in the world.
> >
> > It is the *best* OS for the desktop.
>
> No, its not.
Is so. :D
> > Efficiency just
> > isn't that important in a world where Moore's law
> > continues to apply.
>
> .. so window$ just got moved to "good enough" status, again?
It's the best. Being the fasted on meager hardware
is not important. The feature set *is*.
> > It's the developer toolset that counts.
>
> That is just so much bullshit. Developers write for whatever market they
> can make money in. On the desktop, thats pretty much m$, because m$
> stole the market. If XYZ OS held 90-95% of the market, and m$ helpd
> 3-5%, developers would drop m$ and flock to XYZ.
Other way around. If the developers flocked to XYZ
for whatever reason, then it would have the lions
share of the market.
Developers *do* develop for platforms that
aren't the market leader. They do it if they
can produce a better product thereby.
Remember way back when when Illustrator
came out? The market leader was DOS then,
wasn't it? Quite convincingly, no?
But Aldus didn't care; they could not have done
as good a job on DOS, so they went with the
Macintosh.
There are quite a few apps like that. They had
to migrate to Windows, when it became strong
enough to support them. But that took quite
some time.
[snip]
> > I'm a Wintroll. :D
>
> Yeah, we know. BTW, thats an insult. Yo can stop grinning now.
: |
[snip]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (.)
Subject: Re: Linux takes Hollywood by storm!
Date: 18 May 2001 22:20:56 GMT
Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> --
>> "George Dubya Bush---the best presidency money can buy"
> maybe, but then again, George wasn't the one crying b/c he lost every
> single recount. Even now after 2 additional recounts Bush still pulls
> ahead......are u saying he is still paying liberal newspapers to put the
> results in his favor? even after he already won? Bush won what counts,
> the electoral votes. It has happened before that the President-elect
> lost the popular vote but no one ever said *that* was illegitimate.
My signature is for thinking, intelligent humans. It is not for you.
Please ignore it in the future.
Thanks in advance,
=====.
--
"George Dubya Bush---the best presidency money can buy"
---obviously some Godless commie heathen faggot bastard
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From: "spicerun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Discuss Linux Here! Flame Kulkis Somewhere Else Please!
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:28:58 -0500
Too much bandwidth has been wasted on Offtopic Flames! The Linux/MS
bashing is far more interesting and Ontopic for this group.
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From: pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Mandrake Sucks!!!!
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 23:34:08 +0100
wendy wrote:
>
> I tried to install Mandrake 8.0 on my Athlon based system and it
> virtually destroyed all of my data.
>
> It overwrote my Bootmagic bootloader with some "grubby" thing and
> rendered my win 2000 partition useless.
>
> I lugged the entire system to CompUSA where I bought it and they got
> it back for me thank goodness without any data loss.
>
> They also told me that they get many customers in there who try to
> install Linux and it trashes their systems....
>
> What a piece of crap this Linux garbage is...
>
> And before you tell me everything I have done wrong I told Linux to
> install on the Linux drive, not the mbr. It still put that grubby
> thing in there.
You are a liar, a cheat and a troll.... go away stupid you stupid paid
FUDster. You are not even worth the keystrokes revoking you OBVIOUSLY
stupid claims.
The only "piece of crap" is your brain. I would return it to CompUSA
immediately as it is not functioning.
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From: "2 + 2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: misc.invest.stocks
Subject: Re: Dell Meets Estimates
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 18:32:30 -0400
Shun Yan Cheung wrote in message <9e45ri$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ca <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Don't count on it. Most Fortune 500 companies wouldn't touch Linux for
>>anything mission critical....
>
>I find this a bit odd, since Linux is very stable and
>its speed is getting pretty respectable.
The "mission critical" canard is balony.
IBM, which supports everything the customer wants, is spending a cool
billion on Linux.
Linux rocks!
Of course, my comment was about Dell and the mid-server market.
2 + 2
>Perhaps the lack
>of support is a factor. Another Linux weakness is hacker-
>vulnerability. Linux systems get hacked very frequently and
>it's a sys. adm. nightmare to keep up with the patch work...
>Perhaps the latter is more of a reason not to use Linux in mission
>critical tasks ?
>--
>``Learn the rules so you know how to break them properly''
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From: worlok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 18:31:39 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> xmms has a .wav generating plugin that'll convert an entire directory of
> mp3 into wavs in one operation.
>
Yes, but when I was mentioning EZ CD creator I meant that it can, in one
operation, take mp3's, drag them to the CD layout in audio view, and they
become audio tracks, and you just burn the CD. It's beautiful. I wish
that it was available for Linux. Maybe Xcdroast will get there
someday......
--TC
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray Fischer)
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 22:39:19 GMT
Rich Soyack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Ray Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>> >> http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/faq/faq21.htm
>> >>
>> >> Can I get HIV from having vaginal sex?
>> >>
>> >> Yes, it is possible to become infected with HIV through vaginal
>> >> intercourse. In fact, it is the most common way the virus is
>> >> transmitted in much of the world. HIV can be found in the blood,
>> >> semen, pre-seminal fluid, or vaginal fluid of a person infected
>> >> with the virus. The lining of the vagina can tear and possibly
>> >> allow HIV to enter the body. Direct absorption of HIV through
>> >> the mucous membranes that line the vagina also is a possibility.
>> >>
>> >> The male may be at less risk for HIV transmission than the female
>> >> through vaginal intercourse. However, HIV can enter the body of the
>> >> male through his urethra (the opening at the tip of the penis) or
>> >> through small cuts or open sores on the penis.
>> >
>> >What was left out of this statement was the fact the there would have to
>> >be vaginal lessions for the AIDS virsus to be effectively transmitted to the
>> >male in vaginal intercourse.
>>
>> Indeed? So you too know better than the US CDC and all of those
>> medical researchers? A woman needs a vaginal lesion in order
>> to lubricate. Another thing I never knew.
>
>This is what the CDC used to say before political pressure was brought to
>bear.
Indeed? It's all a part of a political conspiracy!
It's fascinating to see all the rationalizations you fools come up
with to deny the obvious.
--
Ray Fischer When you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] into you -- Nietzsche
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Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 18:39:51 -0400
Subject: Re: Why did Eazel shutdown?
From: Anonymous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"Donal K. Fellows" wrote:
>
> Anonymous wrote:
> > It's a very well publicized form of crime. Well, you can
> > take your chances, it's your life.
>
> I don't think it's happened to me. Well, not online according to Google
> anyway. :^)
Identity theft involves taking your
name and some other key identification
information like your social security number
and then applying for credit cards in your name.
Once they've ruined your credit with bogus charges
it's a real pain to get it off your record.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray Fischer)
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 22:40:25 GMT
Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Dr S.J. Cornell" wrote:
>> If you had been paying attention, you'd know why this is irrelevant:
>> homosexuals can, and do, have children.
>
>However, by having a preference for homosexual relationships,
>they MINIMIZE their reproductive success.
Here's a clue, moron: "success" isn't defined by you.
--
Ray Fischer When you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] into you -- Nietzsche
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray Fischer)
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 22:41:34 GMT
Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>For example, *I* get judged on my behavior all the time.
That's because you're a dumbshit bigot.
> Why should
>homosexuals get a special exemption?
Because you don't whine about homosexual _behavior_.
Moron.
--
Ray Fischer When you look long into an abyss, the abyss also looks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] into you -- Nietzsche
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From: "Gary Hallock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux beats Win2K (again)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 18:46:47 +0000
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Pete
Goodwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And is the desktop supercomputer real? Ask Intel or SETI. They'll tell
> you - they've used it. Ten times bigger than any supercomputer you might
> mention.
>
Hardly. I beleive ASCI White still holds that record - 12.3 teraflops
for the first version released a year ago. The goal is 100 teraflops by
2004.
http://www.llnl.gov/asci/platforms/white/
Gary
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From: "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 22:49:06 GMT
"Quantum Leaper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:vJgN6.8258$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:KqbN6.28551$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
[snip]
> > > Well genius, why do you think there's not much app development going
on
> > > for Commodre 64/128, Apple II, Tandy Color Computer, Atari ST, etc?
> >
> > Well, The first 5 machines listed there are 8-bit
> > computers- first generation PCs, and they really
> > really really suck hard compared to even the
> > original IBM PC.
>
> I would rather have C64 then a IBM PC (which I have both currently). A
> simple test was to program a print loop in BASIC and the C64 was 3/4 the
> speed of the PC, even thought the CPU was less then 1/4 clock speed.
I don't quite get it. The C64 was slower; why prefer it?
Sure, maybe it had a batter BASIC implementation,
but not enough better to overcome its other problems,
like the low clock speeds.
Few programs of significance were written
in the built-in interpreted BASIC back then,
you know. It was way, way too slow. There
*were* compilers you could use that were
at least better than interpreted basic. There
where bytecode systems. And there
was assembly.
Mostly there was assembly, though.
> C64/128 still has programs being created, even the Atari 2600 has new
games
> or demos being produced.
Yes, I know. Nostalgia is fun, but that doesn't
mean other technologies aren't better.
> > Really. The IBM PC won because it wasn't
> > just better than its competitors at the time,
> > it was a *lot* better.
>
> C64 had the home market til the 90s, but Business market was ruled by
PCs.
Sorta kinda.
The C64 was cheap to produce, and Commodore
took advantage of that. But it didn't dominate
the home market the way PCs dominated
the business market. The Commodore 64
was slowly squeezed out as prices came
down on other computers.
Commodore knew that the C64 technology
had no future. That is why they invested
in the Amiga, which kept them going
until the early ninties.
But Commodores initially strong position
in the home market was eroding from '86 on,
at the least.
> > It failed because it was too little, too late-
> > and even more because Atari showed
> > little commitment to it. Besides, it was
> > a rather me-too-ish sort of computer. Why
> > bother with it in the face of the Macintosh,
> > the PC AT or the Amiga?
> >
> Atari and Commodore but had REALLY bad management teams, I still remember
a
> picture from INFO magazine showing Atari management as the 3 Stooges. The
> problem was Commodore's was any better.
(I assume you mean "wasn't any better"..)
Sure it was. Commodore got behind its Amiga
product and managed to get some users and
some developers. It wasn't a stunning success,
but comparing it to the Atari story makes
it look like one.
[snip]
> > On those old 8-bit machines, you pretty much
> > had to develop anything significant in assembly;
> > high-level languages would produce code that
> > was just too big or just too slow (usually both).
>
> Slow compared to modern machines but fast enough for the time and place.
Not in the opinions of the people on the
spot; commercial software was mostly
written in assembly, to make it faster and
smaller.
There were exceptions, of course.
> > And assembly on a 6502 or a Z80 is not
> > exactly a fun thing. 8 bit registers really,
> > really bite. You pretty much always need
> > bigger numbers than that, so you wind up
> > having to play with carry bits and string
> > arithmeitc operations together and...
>
> A good compiler would do wonders when programming in assembly on the C64.
Good compilers were virtually unknown then.
There was no way one could run on the
C64 itself (or any other 8 bit); instead you
could get a minicomputer and then write your
own cross-compiler.
But generating good, fast, small code for
the 6502 is a very hard problem, even
with an early-eighties mini to play with. It
was not a real friendly instruction set for
compilers, either, as it happens.
A good assembler would help, though.
Still, even the best assembler can only go
so far.
And there were even grosser hacks. Ever
heard of "Sweet-16"?
> If I had to do floats, I would use built in BASIC from assembly.
Yeah. Some of those systems didn't have what we'd
call an API. You could call into bits of the builtin
BASIC from assembly though, sometimes.
It got better as time went on, though.
> 8 bit registers were almost never used in the 6502, it was
> mainly memory based, with 16 bits.
Erm. Mainly?
It was an accumulator system. To add bytes,
what you did was you cleared the carry,
loaded the first operand into the accumulator,
the added the second, and finally stored
the result:
CLC
LDA address-of-operand-1
ADC address-of-operand-2
STA address-of-result
That was for one byte. I may have the
mnemonics wrong, but you get the idea. For
two byte adds, you only do the CLC
at the beginning:
CLC
LDA address-of-operand-1-low-byte
ADC address-of-operand-2-low-byte
STA address-of-result-low-byte
LDA address-of-operand-1-high-byte
ADC address-of-operand-2-high-byte
STA address-of-result-high-byte
It sure pounded memory hard, but
the accumulator was just everywhere. And
there weren't any 16-bit arithemetic
ops. You had a way to dereference a 16 bit
address that was in main memory; it had
to be in the low 256 bytes though.
> > ... well, better you should use an abacus.
> >
> Haven't used one in about 2 weeks. ;) I use it more that a calculators
> sometimes.
:D
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From: "Rich Soyack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why Linux Is no threat to Windows domination of the desktop
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 22:53:23 GMT
"Ray Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9e488q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Rich Soyack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >"Ray Fischer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>
> >> >> http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/faq/faq21.htm
> >> >>
> >> >> Can I get HIV from having vaginal sex?
> >> >>
> >> >> Yes, it is possible to become infected with HIV through vaginal
> >> >> intercourse. In fact, it is the most common way the virus is
> >> >> transmitted in much of the world. HIV can be found in the
blood,
> >> >> semen, pre-seminal fluid, or vaginal fluid of a person infected
> >> >> with the virus. The lining of the vagina can tear and possibly
> >> >> allow HIV to enter the body. Direct absorption of HIV through
> >> >> the mucous membranes that line the vagina also is a possibility.
> >> >>
> >> >> The male may be at less risk for HIV transmission than the
female
> >> >> through vaginal intercourse. However, HIV can enter the body of
the
> >> >> male through his urethra (the opening at the tip of the penis)
or
> >> >> through small cuts or open sores on the penis.
> >> >
> >> >What was left out of this statement was the fact the there would have
to
> >> >be vaginal lessions for the AIDS virsus to be effectively transmitted
to the
> >> >male in vaginal intercourse.
> >>
> >> Indeed? So you too know better than the US CDC and all of those
> >> medical researchers? A woman needs a vaginal lesion in order
> >> to lubricate. Another thing I never knew.
> >
> >This is what the CDC used to say before political pressure was brought to
> >bear.
>
> Indeed? It's all a part of a political conspiracy!
>
> It's fascinating to see all the rationalizations you fools come up
> with to deny the obvious.
Why is the vaginal transmission rate so low in this country, Ray?
Rich Soyack
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From: Fulcanelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
misc.survivalism,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,soc.singles,alt.society.liberalism,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Who votes for Sliverdick to be executed: AYEs:3 NAYS:0 (1 ABSTAIN)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 16:51:55 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
> Fulcanelli wrote:
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > Re:
> > >
> > > "Let's take a nice, Glen "Sliverdick" Yeadon style pure-democratic
> > > vote:
> > >
> > > All for putting Glen "Sliverdick" Yeadon up against the wall, and
> > > filling him full of lead, say "AYE!" All opposed, say "NAY"
> > >
> > > Let's see how much Sliverdick likes democracy now."
> > >
> > > > AYES:3
> > > > NAYS:0
> > >
> >
> > Like anyone on the left would waste their time on a vote for such a
> > tyrannical measure,...
>
> What's that, Kulak Killer?
>
I'd like everyone to notice how Rob Robertson resorts to pure
name-calling because he cannot argue with what was said. Also, where
did I show that I supported killing of kulaks? I don't expect any
evidence from Rob; Rob's an idiot, you see. Last but not least, can he
argue with the context under which this was done? While it's horrible
to outright kill even kulaks, one must consider the circumstances if
one's going to make a decision that is at all unbiased, intelligent and
informed.
> > ...unless they absolutely had to.
>
> Right. Historical necessity, no doubt.
He bumbles and stumbles but cannot say anything of note. Course, he's a
right-winger, so we expect that.
>
> > The Left is capable of seperating the wheat from the chaff whereas
> > the Right ever gets them confused.
> >
> > > ABSTAIN:1
> > >
> > > An example of the dangers of pure democracy is all well and good,
> > > but I reject pure democracy even if Glen advocates it and wouldn't
> > > vote either way on the matter; there is no moral justification for
> > > the action or the mass decision behind it.
>
> Make yourself invisible yet, Dragqueen?
As if it were needed, this shows that he takes the ramblings of
Handgunner as serious evidence, which eliminates more of his
credibility. His credibility's low, so he better work on increasing it
soon if he doesn't want to continue being a laughing stock.
>
> _
> Rob Robertson
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