Linux-Advocacy Digest #684, Volume #34 Tue, 22 May 01 01:13:04 EDT
Contents:
Re: anti-MS FUD: is there such a thing? Nope! [exhibit A] ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: anti-MS FUD: is there such a thing? Nope! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: I have a soft spot now and then :) ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: RIP the Linux desktop (Terry Porter)
Re: Intermediate user who left Windows for Linux ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Hypothetical (Scott Moore)
Re: ouch! ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: I have a soft spot now and then :) (Michael Vester)
Re: ouch! ("Interconnect")
Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft! (GreyCloud)
Re: ouch! ("Matthew Gardiner")
Re: EXTRA EXTRA MS ADMITS!!!! (Charlie Ebert)
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: anti-MS FUD: is there such a thing? Nope! [exhibit A]
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:27:03 -0400
pip wrote:
>
> Charlie Ebert wrote:
> >
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > pip wrote:
> > >Donn Miller wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> >
> > The meaning of FUD?
> >
> > FUD is when you buy into a MS IIS server only to find out it's
> > riddled with backdoors allowing illegal entry!
> >
> > FUD is when you read that MS is starting up .NET to answer the
> > questions of software piracy as well as their vain attempt
> > to stop viral and worm attacks. How absurd!
> >
> > FUD is when you read all the crap the WINTROLL's post about
> > LINUX - an operating system proven to have higher uptime,
> > greatly improved performance, and 1/10 the cost of Windows.
> >
> > MS is a FUD machine, whether it's on COLA or not.
>
> [exhibit A]
> Ladies & Gentleman,
>
> I hereby present you with a case in point.
It's not FUD if it's true.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: anti-MS FUD: is there such a thing? Nope!
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:27:42 -0400
Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>
> "Donn Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Don't you think it's a little ridiculous to call anti-MS crusades
> > "FUD"?
>
> You're right. It's just that FUD sounds so much better than lying.
It's only lying if it's false.
Same for FUD.
Hope that helps, lying fudster.
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I have a soft spot now and then :)
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:29:37 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Before your dirty little minds conjure up thoughts of fornication, a
> soft spot for Linux is what I mean.
>
> I was in Borders this morning picking up some stuff and I wandered
> over to the computer software section to see the current state of
> Linux items for sale and if anyone seemed to actually be buying
> anything. There was some real nerdy looking, overweight guy with 3
> Linux distributions (SuSE, Mandrake and Redhat) in his hands and he
> was reading the boxes and comparing. All of sudden I hear the guy
> mutter "This Sucks!", we made eye contact and I said "oh, you must be
> looking at Linux?" to which he answered "yes and this Leeeenucks stuff
> is so confusing I can see why nobody seems to be buying it". As an
> expert in Linux and the "suck factor" I offered my services and
> proceeded to explain to him about Linux. His first problem was they he
> had picked the "super deluxe $99.00 versions" and in fact had an
> outdated version of SuSE. Borders tends to leave old stuff on the
> shelves right next to the newer versions which is bad.
> After some chatting over a cup of coffee he left with Mandrake 8.0.
> This guy was a real geek and knew his Windows stuff down cold. He had
Cool people use Unix/Linux.
Geeks use Windows.
Come back in a year, and guy will be much cooler.
> a home built system and most likely a home built automobile as well :)
> I was surprised he was new to Linux, but then again I think he might
> have been playing dumb just to pick me up. I dunno ;)
>
> I figured he'd love Linux.
>
> So I sold a copy of Mandrake.
>
> Where do I pick up my commission check?
>
> flatfish++++
> "Why do they call it a flatfish?"
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: RIP the Linux desktop
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 22 May 2001 04:26:15 GMT
On Mon, 21 May 2001 21:17:08 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, 21 May 2001 20:38:43 GMT, Pete Goodwin
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/opinions/3387/1/
>>
>>What's this! What's this!
>>
>>"OK, it's official: Linux on the desktop is dead."
>>
>>But it never even started! Giving up before even trying!
>
>
> It's been wheezing a slow death for years if even by virtue that it
> can't even be given away.
On the contrary, new desktops appear all the time (ie KDE and Gnome)
adding to the great variation available now.
>
> Linux is/has and will continue to be ignored by the desktop user
I'm a Linux desktop user, and have been since 1997, full time.
> because it is an inferior system for that purpose.
Wrong.
> Choice has nothing
> to do with it because the choices that are offered are all inferior to
> the Windows counterparts.
The Justice Department, said Windows 'popularity' had nothing to do
with it being better, but rather, because of preditory trade practices.
>
> Linux left the dock in a leaky boat without any clue as to navigation
> and what the purpose of the mission is/was and the end result is a
> mish-mash of confusion and half done applications.
FUD.
>
> The consumers have spoken by virtue of the dead silence in adopting
> Linux as some type of a desktop alternative to Windows.
I'd hardly call Linux's take up rate 'a dead silence'!
> It just isn't
> happening
Only in your mind Flattie.
> and if Linux can't capitalize on all of this MS 8.net and
> spyware registration crap, it will stay as a virtual unknown on the
> desktop which is where it is now.
We have yet to see what happens regarding .NET
--
Kind Regards
Terry
--
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Intermediate user who left Windows for Linux
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:32:09 -0400
Techno Barbie wrote:
>
> I decided to switch to Linux after trying to reinstall MS Word on a new PC
> I had just purchased. Of course, when I installed Word I had to call MS due
> to they sent me a nice e-mail informing me that copying Word on more than
> one PC was illegal. I then called there support desk to get Word unlocked.
> The sales person then probed me why I was trying to install in on another
> computer, and asked if I knew it was illegal to copy the product on more
> than one computer. She then started to ask me a few settings on my PC, and
> after I had enough, I told her to forget it I was not going to use it
> anymore.
>
> Having tinkered with Linux for more than a year, I finally made the break
> with Windows and only use it to play games. Although I cannot install
> programs that are not RPM's yet - and editing configuration files are
> confusing to me - I did get Star Office up which is the main thing I use my
> computer for.
>
Most of the distributions have a "package installer" GUI which will
do all the dirty work for you :-)
> I really wonder how MS new security measures on their software, is going to
> effect the average user. For me it was enough to tick me off and make a
> switch to another operating system.
>
> Well off to learn something called the command line :-)
>
> Techno (as in the music) Barbie
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Scott Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Hypothetical
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 21:32:58 -0700
A hypothetical question:
AT&T made an 80386 port of Unix in the early 1990s, way before Windows 95, way before
OS/2 2.0, way before Linux. Various people ended up reselling it, but the average price
was $700.00 to $1000.00 bucks (no, there aren't extra zeros there).
AT&T ended up giving away Unix for a song.
If they didn't have their heads up their ass, and sold Unix on the IBM-PC for $50
then, would the world be
different ?
--
"I'd like to see cpp abolished" - Bjarne Stroustrup
[cpp is the original name of C PreProcessor]
------------------------------
From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ouch!
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 00:35:21 -0400
tony roth ([EMAIL PROTECTED])wrote:
>
> My friend (name to be withheld since he's a real freak hacker) found a nice
> little bug in a very very popular OSS package he was quite grateful for the
> open source code since he did not have to do any reverse engineering. This
> bug is another stack overflow with root potential. He's just sitting on it
> waiting for a rainy day! btw it still has not been patched.
>
> bs from mlw snipped
When it gets exploited, the FBI will come to you.
You've just admitted that you know of criminal activities, and have
not reported it. thus, you are aiding and abetting a criminal.
Since most "freak hacking" is FELONIOUS, you are aiding and abetting
felonies....and liable to be charged as such yourself.
Now....either YOU turn over the bug within 24 hours, or *I* call the FBI.
Is any of this getting through to you?
>
> From: "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: The nature of competition
> Date: Sunday, May 20, 2001 2:58 PM
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
------------------------------
From: Michael Vester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I have a soft spot now and then :)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 15:03:35 -0700
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Before your dirty little minds conjure up thoughts of fornication, a
> soft spot for Linux is what I mean.
>
> I was in Borders this morning picking up some stuff and I wandered
> over to the computer software section to see the current state of
> Linux items for sale and if anyone seemed to actually be buying
> anything. There was some real nerdy looking, overweight guy with 3
> Linux distributions (SuSE, Mandrake and Redhat) in his hands and he
> was reading the boxes and comparing. All of sudden I hear the guy
> mutter "This Sucks!", we made eye contact and I said "oh, you must be
> looking at Linux?" to which he answered "yes and this Leeeenucks stuff
> is so confusing I can see why nobody seems to be buying it". As an
> expert in Linux and the "suck factor" I offered my services and
> proceeded to explain to him about Linux. His first problem was they he
> had picked the "super deluxe $99.00 versions" and in fact had an
> outdated version of SuSE. Borders tends to leave old stuff on the
> shelves right next to the newer versions which is bad.
> After some chatting over a cup of coffee he left with Mandrake 8.0.
> This guy was a real geek and knew his Windows stuff down cold. He had
> a home built system and most likely a home built automobile as well :)
> I was surprised he was new to Linux, but then again I think he might
> have been playing dumb just to pick me up. I dunno ;)
>
> I figured he'd love Linux.
>
> So I sold a copy of Mandrake.
>
> Where do I pick up my commission check?
>
> flatfish++++
> "Why do they call it a flatfish?"
Glad to see your old sig back. You are a Linux advocate, aren't you?
Welcome to the good guys side.
--
Michael Vester
A credible Linux advocate
"The avalanche has started, it is
too late for the pebbles to vote"
Kosh, Vorlon Ambassador to Babylon 5
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From: "Interconnect" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ouch!
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 14:55:26 +1000
tony roth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:4ulO6.108$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> My friend (name to be withheld since he's a real freak hacker) found a
nice
> little bug in a very very popular OSS package he was quite grateful for
the
> open source code since he did not have to do any reverse engineering.
This
> bug is another stack overflow with root potential. He's just sitting on
it
> waiting for a rainy day! btw it still has not been patched.
>
>
>
>
> bs from mlw snipped
>
> From: "mlw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: The nature of competition
> Date: Sunday, May 20, 2001 2:58 PM
>
Yeah, and I'm the Queen of England.
It's raining and you still don't know it.
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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Justice Department LOVES Microsoft!
Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 21:49:15 -0700
Daniel Johnson wrote:
>
> "GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Daniel Johnson wrote:
> [snip]
> > > But structurally they are very similar at the low
> > > levels. They have the same notion of system
> > > services, the same mechanism for interrupt
> > > handling, the same mechanism for process
> > > scheduling.
> > >
> > > It's quite striking.
> > >
> > > Stability isn't the only attribute an OS can have
> > > (or lack).
> >
> > The asynchronous tty boards were a part of some system service calls.
> > Actually, if one didn't keep up with the ECOs (hardware upgrades) and
> > the VMS O/S upgrades one could get into trouble. The hardware and the
> > O/S were very much dependent on each other. That was one reason I
> > stayed away from third party hardware board vendors.
>
> VMS was eventually rewritten for portability and
> redubbed "OpenVMS". But at one time what you
> say was true.
>
Yes, and I sort of missed out on OpenVMS. I'm still waiting for that
VAX 4000 to be sent to me. I'm just paying for the shipping. It has VAX
fortran and C installed running OpenVMS 7.1. Looking forward to using
it again.
When I programmed on the VAX series I only had to deal with terminal
services. It was easy to program as every thing one wanted to do
already existed as a system service call. I usually used the best
virtues of a two or more languages to get a program written and up and
running without a lot of hassles. I found it harder to program MS dos
than under VMS.
> > The VMS O/S is
> > quite different that NT in these areas from what I had been told by an
> > NT developer.
>
> NT has hardly any tty support, so I'm not sure
> what can be said about this point.
>
> > Mainly it handled the VT-220 on up series of terminals.
> > But I suspect a lot of Dave Cutlers' VMS design experience went into NT
> > as well. I suspect that Dave added more features oriented to the
> > desktop PC and left out older pieces of code that supported the TTYs.
> > The VAX had no video memory per se to deal with... that was left to
> > expensive monitors having to deal with the TTY line, hence the use of
> > Regis Graphics codes.
>
> Sure. They two OSes are not identical. But then,
> I was really talking about the low-level OS structures;
> there's no equivalent to GDI on VMS, but some
> other things do have strong parallels.
I'm curious as to how NT O/S responds, when you put many users on a
server, during an initial login sequence. On VMS the priority level
jumps to real-time long enough to send a login prompt, and then
stairsteps down in priority over a short period of time so as not to
interfere with other users. This may show the structural differences.
--
V
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From: "Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ouch!
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 16:49:51 +1200
"tony roth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:4ulO6.108$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> My friend (name to be withheld since he's a real freak hacker) found a
nice
> little bug in a very very popular OSS package he was quite grateful for
the
> open source code since he did not have to do any reverse engineering.
This
> bug is another stack overflow with root potential. He's just sitting on
it
> waiting for a rainy day! btw it still has not been patched.
>
>
This is a Wintrol that somehow is trying to prove that because a piece of
software is open source, that it is easy to find cracks. Sorry mate, its
not going to work, so go back to your 386 loaded with Windows 95 and
Winnuke, and annoy someone else.
Matthew Gardiner
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charlie Ebert)
Subject: Re: EXTRA EXTRA MS ADMITS!!!!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 04:56:43 GMT
In article <vNhO6.3170$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Erik Funkenbusch wrote:
>"Charlie Ebert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> >But these are for the processing efficiencies... not the actual
>> >instruction set.
>> >Hp did say on their web site that the PA series can execute the IA-64
>> >instruction set.
>> >What Hp didn't say was if an emulator was needed or not. But emulating
>> >another processor would only be slow, so I don't think that this is what
>> >Hp is doing.
>>
>> I don't think so either and I'd just like to say for the record
>> that Erik Fuckbush is full of shit.
>>
>> The pins are the same between the two chips.
>
>Then it should be quite easy for you to provide two links, one the pinout of
>the PA-RISC and one the pinout of the Itanium to show they are the same,
>right?
>
>If you can't do that, then you don't know what the fuck you're talking
>about.
>
>> They are the same chip.
>>
>> Finally, I was working with chip cpu's before you were born
>> EF.
>
>I doubt that, since there were no Integrated circuits before I was born.
>
Thank you,
Case Closed..
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Charlie
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