Linux-Advocacy Digest #221, Volume #35           Thu, 14 Jun 01 05:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Redhat video problems. (GreyCloud)
  the world thinks there is only windows. yahoo sucks. (top@pp)
  Re: Just For Fun (GreyCloud)
  Re: Microsoft Incredibly Sorry (GreyCloud)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (drsquare)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (drsquare)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (drsquare)
  Re: More funny stuff. (drsquare)
  Re: Windows makes good coasters (drsquare)
  Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (drsquare)
  Re: Dennis Ritchie -- He Created Unix, But Now Uses Microsoft Windows (drsquare)
  Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags (drsquare)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (drsquare)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (drsquare)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (drsquare)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (drsquare)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (drsquare)
  Re: What language are use to program Linux stuff? (drsquare)
  Re: Dennis Ritchie -- He Created Unix, But Now Uses Microsoft Windows (drsquare)
  Re: Microsoft Incredibly Sorry (Ralph Miguel Hansen)
  Re: Linux user. (Terry Porter)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (was: chaney: retard) (Frog2)
  Re: IBM Goes Gay ("Edward Rosten")
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (T. R. Ellis)
  Re: OT:  Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and  ignorance...) 
("Edward Rosten")

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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat video problems.
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:49:31 -0700

Mark wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  GreyCloud wrote:
> >flatfish+++ wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:57:02 -0700, GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >I wonder what ever happened to using ctrl-alt-+ or - to change the
> >> >screen resolutions on the fly??
> >>
> >> That's assuming X is installed properly to begin with.
> >>
> >> Hitting those keys when all that is displayed is a bright white screen
> >> does nothing.
> >>
> >> flatfish+++
> >> "Why do they call it a flatfish?"
> >
> >My old copy of slackware 3.5 allowed for many different resolutions and
> >worked nice.
> >The later versions of Linux seem to have omitted this feature.
> >
> 
> Whether you can do this or not is dependent on the capabilities of
> your graphics card and monitor, and the Xfree driver.
> 
> If it is supported, then the setup in XF86Setup should offer you
> a range of modes to choose from.  Those you select are put into
> the XF86Config file, and when you press c-m-+ c-m-- combinations
> you can switch between them.
> 
> If you want to know more about what the driver for your particular
> card supports, try man 'driver', and also check in the documentation
> bit (in debian it would be in /usr/share/doc/x-common/'drivername.gz')
> 
> Note that some types of driver may not support this feature.
> 
> --
> Mark Kent

The newer distros are now defaulting to one of your own choosing. 
Calderas' is like this.  Xsun is like this as well.  I liked Suns'
install software as it automatically detected my on board video chip and
even my monitor type.  It was very easy, but some intel boards give sun
a headache and won't install.

-- 
V

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From: top@pp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: the world thinks there is only windows. yahoo sucks.
Date: 14 Jun 2001 00:12:49 -0700


Lets all write to yahoo and complain. I am just had it with
sites like yahoo that only supports windows.

click on this site and you'll get an error that it is only supported
on windoz. 

http://vision.yahoo.com/?id=1457763&aid=5016

yahoo is as stupid as any business out there which only makes its
web pages to one platform. 


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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Just For Fun
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 01:01:35 -0700

pip wrote:
> 
> "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
> >
> > Pip, its a bloody miracle, post on the 13/6/01 and now its 14/6/01, and
> > I see no "Linux is communist", or "Linux is a hippie OS", or Flatfish
> > trying to say Linux is gay because it has [obscene feature], or Aaron
> > say, "I hope that helps", or Jon bring a 3 year old benchmark out to
> > prove something, Chad some how linking the realiablity of Linux to the
> > way Solaris handles updates.
> >
> 
> :) That may be true - but nobody has replied as they seem to busy
> debating such issues or do not find Linux history interesting enough to
> comment :(
> 

I think the webmaster should purge the postings a bit.  And maybe a
bucket of Clorox to clean up some other areas. :-)


> I thought I would try and improve the tone away from the current stuff.
> Anyway the book should come tomorrow so I shall report back :)
> 
> btw: You were aware that Tux is in fact a gay communist
> Norwegian-patriot "animal lover" who run's Windows 98 SE and corrupts
> children with his teachings?

-- 
V

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From: GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft Incredibly Sorry
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 01:08:31 -0700

Robert Morelli wrote:
> 
> May 3:
> 
> Microsoft Senior Vice President Craig Mundie last month lambasted
> the open-source community for "releasing unhealthy code."
> 
> June 7:  Security Lapse of the Day ...
> 
> "Microsoft revealed a security hole in its Exchange 2000 mail server
> Wednesday that could allow an attacker to target corporate employees
> with programs that delete their mail."
> 
> see http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6217519.html?tag=rltdnws
> 
> June 8:  First Fix ...
> 
>  "We have had severe e-mail problems since applying the fix," wrote Trey
> Carr, IS manager at ZonaFinanciera.com. ...Our ability to send and
> receive mail was completely stopped by this 'fix.' I am using (a
> Web-based e-mail service) to send (this message) because our server is
> completely hung."
> 
> see http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6228459.html?tag=rltdnws
> 
> June 13: Second Try ... Microsoft Incredibly Sorry ...
> 
> "Microsoft contritely acknowledged Wednesday that its second attempt to
> fix an Exchange security hole went awry. Rather than fix the problem--
> and the security hole--the company's second attempt at a software patch
> included a catastrophic bug that caused many servers to hang. The
> company was not aware of the problem until alerted by CNET News.com.
> ...
> The prolonged embarrassment comes at a tough time for Microsoft, as the
> company tries to hold onto its share of the server software market,
> partly by attacking Linux and other open-source software competitors."
> 
> see http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-200-6270970.html?tag=lh
> 
> Now,  for any of you folks out there whose confidence in MS and .Net
> might be shaken by this episode,  let me say that my heart goes out to
> you.  Perhaps you can take some comfort in these inspirational words
> from the Meta Group:
> 
> March 22:
> 
> Meta Group commentary on .Net:  "For Microsoft, these services
> are an extension of a long-term corporate policy that has made it
> a leader in privacy and personal security on the Internet.
> ...
> Web users who are entering the Web through Microsoft sites such
> as MSN already have a trust relationship with Microsoft. They probably
> would be comfortable with the idea of trusting Microsoft with their
> personal information"
> 
> And it gets even better.
> 
> see http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-201-5225612-0.html
> 
> And don't any of you MS-haters out there try to undermine these
> inspirational words.  Alright,  the Meta Group is a bunch of goofballs,
> but let's not be hard on the MS crowd at this difficult time.

Looks like MS is out of control. Fortunately, there are alternatives.

-- 
V

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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:32:56 +0100

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:09:10 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>drsquare wrote:

>> >In North America, it seems more homosexuals get it. Whether the
>> >gap will close or not is another issue.
>> 
>> Do they? Have you got any EVIDENCE? No, you haven't. So fuck off until
>> you have.


<snip>

I'll await your proving the accuracy/reliability of those figures.

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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:32:58 +0100

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:10:19 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>drsquare wrote:

>> You really have lost it.

<snip>

*plonk*

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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:32:59 +0100

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:41:26 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 (Cray Drygu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>Aaron R. Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

>>Heterosexual contact - - 
>>MALE 23,361 - 
>>FEMALE 43,128 - 
>>TOTAL - 66,490 
>
>Hey look, you proved him right.
>
>By the way, how's the paint on your V key doing?  You've been doing a
>heck of a lot of pasting recently.  Too bad your pasted stats don't
>make sense as a reply to over half the posts you replied to with them. 

And the fact that there is no evidence that the stats are even close
to valid.

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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: More funny stuff.
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:33:00 +0100

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:50:57 +0100, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 (Peter Hayes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:33:58 +0100, drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/30/index.html BOFH, home grown humour
>> >> in godzone (aka New Zealand).
>> >
>> >No, cobber, godzone is Scotland - and getting better every year now that
>> >global warming is sending the worst of the weather to England...
>> 
>> What? All the best weather is coming to England. It was sunny all last
>> month.
>
>I seem to remember an autumn of floods, followed by a winter of floods...

Well, I don't know what part of England you were staying in. I saw
plenty of sun over the last month.

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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Windows makes good coasters
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:33:01 +0100

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:12:09 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED] ()) wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:33:53 +0100, drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>>>Especially if you're too fucking stupid to figure out how to download the
>>>driver(s) on a PC with a working network connection.
>>
>>I was talking about a situation where the modem drivers are NOT THERE.
>
>If you're not using a winmodem (ie: brain dead piece of crap), they use the
>hayes command set.
>
>Otherwise you should get a modem where the designers aren't in bed with
>microsoft.

Which is yet more money.

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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:33:02 +0100

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:53:44 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ("Daniel Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>"drsquare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

>> >> links to PDF files on a web page.
>> >
>> >It's the same thing.
>>
>> No it's not. A PDF site is a site where all the actual documents are
>> PDF.
>
>*All* of them?
>
>Does that mean that an HTML site is one where
>all the actual documents are HTML?

Erm, yes.

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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie -- He Created Unix, But Now Uses Microsoft Windows
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:33:02 +0100

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:28:13 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine))
wrote:

>In comp.os.linux.advocacy, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>>clearly you are not a seasoned unix user, otherwise you will utter
>>otherwise. Unix with tools like bash,perl,apache, grep and syslog
>>is far more powerful than windows.
>
>The tools bash, perl, apache, and grep have all been ported, so this

And yet they are mainly useless anywhere else.

>>Windows on other hand is great for games, limited text composition
>>and some image manipulation. Macs are far better at last two,
>>so leaves Windows as a game platfrom with most games written for.
>
>I'm not even sure Windows is that great for games -- although it
>depends on whether one wants frame rate, stability, simplicity,
>or ubiquity.  As for text composition -- what makes Windows so
>great for that?  TeX is far better, although not quite as
>friendly (LyX helps) to the casual user.

I've just downloaded that, and I'll install it when I can get all the
dependencies and conflicts worked out. That's the good thing about
Windows, you just download the installation programs and install it,
you don't have to bother about all the dependencies and package
conflicts etc.



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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:33:04 +0100

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 21:16:20 +0100, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ("Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>> I doubt many people would want to print off an entire encyclopedia.
>> Also, I like reading off the monitor. They're are no problems with
>> shadows/lighting etc, and you can set your own font/size. Also, you can
>> copy/paste text.
>
>I find books easier. Even with a very expensive moniter, bright light can
>be a problem. Also, if your text is well typeset at 2400dpi, the need to
>change the font size is reduced somewhat. The things I find easier are
>the much higher resoultion (better typesetting, much sharper fonts),
>higher contrast (makes shadows a limited problem except in bright light).

Yeah, but then you've got to worry about the light etc. After a while,
you get used to the glare of the monitor. My eyes are practically
dead. I have to keep spraying them with water every 5 minutes just to
stop them going crispy.

>You can also pick up the book and go and sit in a comfy chair which is
>not easy to do with my computer.

Yeah, buta large book is a bit of an arse to have to cope with. Or you
could connect the computer up to the telly and read everything off the
there, with the keyboard on your lap.

>Copyiung/pasting mabey of some use, but it would be best to have both,
>since the price of a CD is so cheap, they should give one away with the
>printed version.

Possibly.

>You may not agree, but many people do, which is why books aren't going
>anywhere soon.

Also, books are better in that you don't have to launch up your
computer etc every time you want to look at something, and the
pictures are generally better quality.

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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:32:53 +0100

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:15:49 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ("S.T. Pickrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>drsquare wrote:

>> >drsquare wrote:
>
>> >In North America, it seems more homosexuals get it. Whether the
>> >gap will close or not is another issue.
>> 
>> Do they? Have you got any EVIDENCE? No, you haven't. So fuck off until
>> you have.
>
>I eagerly await your reply to the evidence Mr Tokeman was so kind
>to post. In fact, that's where I learned it.

I'll reply to the evidence when I consider it evidence.

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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:32:55 +0100

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:08:56 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>drsquare wrote:

>> >Except we "right wing nuts" have the stats to back us up.  Do you?
>> >sky
>> 
>> Stats? I haven't seen you provide or refer to a single statistic.

>U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY 
>
>EXPOSURE CATEGORY Sub-totals # of AIDS CASES 
>Men who have sex with men - 326,051 
>Injecting drug use - - 
>MALE 126,889 - 
>FEMALE 46,804 - 
>TOTAL - 173,693 
>Men who have sex w/men and inject drugs - 43,640 
>Hemophilia/coagulation disorder - - 
>MALE 4,663 - 
>FEMALE 248 - 
>TOTAL - 4,911 
>Heterosexual contact - - 
>MALE 23,361 - 
>FEMALE 43,128 - 
>TOTAL - 66,490 
>Receipt of blood transfusion, blood components, or tissue - - 
>MALE 4,784 - 
>FEMALE 3,598 - 
>TOTAL - 8,382 
>Risk not reported or identified - - 
>MALE 41,037 - 
>FEMALE 15,533 - 
>TOTAL - 56,572 
>
> - center for disease control, 1999

Wow, you posted some figures. I'd like to see you prove those figures
are correct.

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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:32:54 +0100

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:51:28 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>Edward Rosten wrote:

>> >> The same way all your rumour are spread by paranoid right-wing nuts
>> >> like yourself.
>> >>
>> > Except we "right wing nuts" have the stats to back us up.  Do you? sky
>> 
>> Such as the vast majority of AIDS is spread by hetro activity.
>> 
>
>Wrong.

Right.

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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:32:57 +0100

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 17:10:12 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 ("Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
>> 
>> Nutshell: Personal Responsibility.
>
>And it's quite obvious that gays don't have it.
>
>That's why a mere 1% of the population constitutes more than 50% of the AIDS cases.
>
>
>
>U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY 
>
>EXPOSURE CATEGORY Sub-totals # of AIDS CASES 
>Men who have sex with men - 326,051 
>Injecting drug use - - 
>MALE 126,889 - 
>FEMALE 46,804 - 
>TOTAL - 173,693 
>Men who have sex w/men and inject drugs - 43,640 
>Hemophilia/coagulation disorder - - 
>MALE 4,663 - 
>FEMALE 248 - 
>TOTAL - 4,911 
>Heterosexual contact - - 
>MALE 23,361 - 
>FEMALE 43,128 - 
>TOTAL - 66,490 
>Receipt of blood transfusion, blood components, or tissue - - 
>MALE 4,784 - 
>FEMALE 3,598 - 
>TOTAL - 8,382 
>Risk not reported or identified - - 
>MALE 41,037 - 
>FEMALE 15,533 - 
>TOTAL - 56,572 
>
> - center for disease control, 1999

Sorry, I don't pay money just to see you post the same post over and
over again. Once more and you're killfiled.

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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:32:53 +0100

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:54:04 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 (Sky King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...

>> >> >That's a rumor being spread by.... homosexual activists
>> >> 
>> >> The same way all your rumour are spread by paranoid right-wing nuts
>> >> like yourself.
>> >> 
>> >Except we "right wing nuts" have the stats to back us up.  Do you?
>> >sky
>> 
>> Stats? I haven't seen you provide or refer to a single statistic.
>> 
>There is a chart here.  You can see that hets are far behind homosexuals
>in the spread of aids.  http://www.righto.com/java/statsgraph.html
> sky

I don't consider a site called "righto.com" a reliable source.

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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What language are use to program Linux stuff?
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:33:00 +0100

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:36:17 +0100, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 (pip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>drsquare wrote:
>> Yeah, but you've got to admit, it's a bit of an arse using java. The
>> syntax is a complete arse compared to C.
>
>The syntax is the same.

It's not. There's load more shite you've got to put in. And you've got
to use some fucking java program just to run it.

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From: drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dennis Ritchie -- He Created Unix, But Now Uses Microsoft Windows
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 00:33:03 +0100

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 15:36:31 -0700, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
 (GreyCloud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:

>Mark wrote:

>> >I'd be wary of anything with that stupid fucking penguin in it. If he
>> >wants good games, send him over to Loki's sight for some REAL games.
>> >
>> 
>> I like the penguin.
>> 
>> --
>> Mark Kent
>
>I wonder where we can get some stuffed Octopi to sell to the
>Windanistas?  We could make a good profit!

What are you talking about? Stuffed Octopi?

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From: Ralph Miguel Hansen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft Incredibly Sorry
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:16:55 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Robert Morelli wrote:

> 
snip
>
> And don't any of you MS-haters out there try to undermine these
> inspirational words.  Alright,  the Meta Group is a bunch of
> goofballs, but let's not be hard on the MS crowd at this difficult
> time.
>
snip
>
<compassion mode>Poor Microsoft ! </compassion mode>
<malicious-joy mode>Haha ! (Oh shit, malicious-joy mode won't stop)
-- 
Cheers

Ralph Miguel Froehlich
Using S.u.S.E. 4.3 and SuSE 7.2

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Terry Porter)
Subject: Re: Linux user.
Reply-To: No-Spam
Date: 14 Jun 2001 08:34:58 GMT

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 19:14:41 -0700, Paolo Ciambotti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Chris Street"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> No but enough people shouting about something will draw attention to the
>> fact that *something* is going on, at which point I can have a look, dig
>> up some more reasoned facts in my own time and do a spot or research
>> before deciding to dip my toes in the water.
>> 
>> Anyway there are two people in my church who stuck their heads round the
>> door because they heard a nutter shouting on the street corner.
>> Fortunatley the nutter wasn't from our church......!
> 
> Actually it was a Winvocate posting to this NG that got me interested in
> Linux in the first place.  I'd been running NT at work for more than a
> year, started lurking COLA to learn a bit more about Linux, and on one of
> my first posts the guy pretty much called me an idiot and a liar when I
> said that my NT workstation kept crashing on me.
> 
> Thanks, Drestin.  Nobody else could have sold me on Linux as completely as
> you did.  MSFT free for a year now, and loving it.

Hahahah I had some lovely posts with "Drestin Black", and used to call
him 'dressed in black'. He was is a Wintroll but I never did know if that
was his real name, hell it was probably just Flatfish!

-- 
Kind Regards from Terry
My Desktop is powered by GNU/Linux.   
Free Micro burner: http://jsno.downunder.net.au/terry/          
** Registration Number: 103931,  http://counter.li.org **

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From: Frog2 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 14 Jun 2001 08:34:50 -0000
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (was: chaney: retard)
Crossposted-To: alt.bonehead.steve-chaney,soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 14:15:49 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
>  ("S.T. Pickrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> 
> >drsquare wrote:
> 
> >> >drsquare wrote:
> >
> >> >In North America, it seems more homosexuals get it. Whether the
> >> >gap will close or not is another issue.
> >> 
> >> Do they? Have you got any EVIDENCE? No, you haven't. So fuck off until
> >> you have.
> >
> >I eagerly await your reply to the evidence Mr Tokeman was so kind
> >to post. In fact, that's where I learned it.
> 
> I'll reply to the evidence when I consider it evidence.

are you, dr.square, a gay homersexual?












WELL?
                        jackie 'anakin' tokeman

appendix a:

U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY 1999 (source: CDC)

Exposure category                        % of total

Men who have Sex with Men (MSM)   326,051     48%
IV drug use                       173,693     26%
MSM/IV                             43,640      6%
Hemophilia                          4,911      1%
Heterosexual contact               66,490     10%
Transfusion                         8,382      1%
Risk not reported or known         56,572      8%

Total:                            679,739

fat kid: i've got some fudge hidden up my ass - you want some?
chaney: yeah right - i'm not falling for that one again.




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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IBM Goes Gay
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:40:52 +0100

>> To be honest, I've only done assembly coding for the 6502 and it was
>> pretty good fun. It is quite amazing the performance you can get if you
>> do it by hand.
> 
> The 6502, wasn't that the one in the Beeb? I could never get the hang of
> it, probably because I found I'd to hand code stuff that one Z80
> instruction would do for you, and my enthusiasm waned after that...



 
> Whether the one Z80 instruction took longer than all the 6502
> instructions was beside the point...

True. I started on the 6502, simply because that was what I had and grew
quite used to it, so I never really took up Z80 programming. The useful
thing was that I recently had an exam on computer architecture (I'm in
the middle of finals ) and the archiceture and instruction set was based
on the 6502 for simplicity (it was more of an inroduction than anything
else) which made that section of the course easy for me :-)

 
> I liked the "alternative register set" in the Z80, where with one
> instruction you could flip the thing into a separate task entirely. I
> had a Rugby clock programmed in about 50 bytes,  and no external memory
> either, just using the alternative registers as memory,. I didn't
> program it, too cleverly done for my abilities , but I learned a lot
> from it.
> 
> But to prove my original point, the Z80 is still being produced in its
> millions for embedded applications such as washing machines, microwaves,
> etc.

Ah yes. The lack of registers on the 6502 was a pain. That said, in order
to switch tasks, there were only a few registers that requires saving.

-Ed


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From: T. R. Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:48:34 +0200

Margelefty wrote:
>T. R. Ellis wrote:
>>Margelefty wrote:
>>>Brock Hannibal wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>> Now move along, before you
>>>> get laughed off of usenet.
>>>
>>>Hasn't happened yet but you're welcome to try.
>>
>>And I quote Margelefty thusly:
>>
>>"You can all burn in hell for all I care.   I'm unsubscribing from these
>>groups FOREVER!"
>>
>And I'm still here. :-)  

You were never going anywhere in the first place.  The quote is just an
amusing example of your dedication to lying and whining.

>Going to try to stop me?  :-)

What reason would I have to "try to stop you"?  Trying your victimist
"they're trying to silencing me" routine again, Margelefty?  I thought
you'd grown out of that. 
>
>>How's that problem with your compulsive lying coming along, Margelefty?
>
>Did you ever have anything to say?  

Yep.  Some of what I say shows you to be a liar and a fool.  I don't mind.


>No?  Figured. 

47

>Poor Trellis, nothing better to do than dredge up old
>statements and arguments.  


Poor Margelefty.  Nothing better to do than to hope that her ongoing
stream of lies and tantrums will be quickly forgotten.

>Get a life, dear.  

Got one, honeywagon.  A REAL one.  Unlike you, I don't need make-believe
families to support my presence on Usenet.  I prefer the real things: both
family and life!

>Oh, never mind.  I forgot, it was you.

Yes, I know you forget.  But why should anyone else forget your record of
lies and tantrums? 

By the way, how's that problem with your compulsive lying coming along,
Margelefty?  Find the "high road" yet?



T. R. Ellis

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From: "Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: OT:  Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and  
ignorance...)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 10:50:58 +0100

>> I have a growing suspicion that you don't know what the word "liberal"
>> means.
> 
> I have a growing suspicion that you don't know who liberals are.

You have absoloutely no idea what liberals are about. You seem to think
it is some passive middleground adopted by people who have no forceful
opinions. You are completely wrong.



-Ed



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