Linux-Advocacy Digest #231, Volume #35           Thu, 14 Jun 01 10:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when  (Thaddius Maximus)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Brock Hannibal)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Burkhard 
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  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Burkhard 
=?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Burkhard 
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  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Burkhard 
=?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Burkhard 
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  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Burkhard 
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  Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Burkhard 
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  Re: forgotten link posted here (Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?=)
  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Burkhard 
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  Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Burkhard 
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From: Thaddius Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: European arrogance and ignorance... (was Re: Just when 
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 14:50:17 +0100

Burkhard W�lfel wrote:
> 
> Edward Rosten wrote:
> >
> [snip]
> > > And yes, your petro tax IS outrageous!  It's called robbery here in the
> > > states and has been known to cause historical revolutions.
> >
> > It's not outrageous. We use too much petrol.
> 
> I have a brand new name for the US in german which is "Verunreinigende
> Staaten von America", Polluting States of A. , as opposed to the usual
> "Vereinigte S. von A.".
> 
> Dubya's decision not to meet the criteria of the Kyoto convention fits
> together with that story about the US and the UN Human Rights Commision
> perfectly, at least that's how some Europeans take it. 


The Kyoto Protocol is a glaringly ridiculous proposal that would
bind the USA to an unreasonable CO2 budget that would only serve
to cripple the US economy while allowing China, India, Mexico, and 
et al, an unlimited CO2 budget.  It's an insane idea and nothing 
more than a political tool for horse whipping the US!

And besides that, the Kyoto Protocol could never achieve its 
objective.  If the US were restricted to a CO2 budget then US
companies would just move to Mexico or another country with an
unlimited CO2 budget and the net world output of CO2 would remain
the same.  After all, the objective of the Kyoto Protocol is to
not punish the US but rather to reduce CO2 output, right?

The Kyoto Protocol is a very flawed proposal.  The US is turning
to gas-fired power generators and nuclear plants for electricity
and fuel cell technology is being led by two American companies
called ExxonMobil and GM, respectively.  The US will get there -
CO2 reduction - but we will not subject ourselves to a political
whipping tool such as the Kyoto Protocol.

Also, there is growing evidence that reforestation in the US (we
have more tress than we did in 1900) has created a CO2 sink
in North America that is removing CO2 equal to the output amount.

http://www.co2science.org/journal/1998/111598c3.htm


> The US define criteria of international discussions or what?
> Energy taxes in europe are the result of decades of discussion, 
> research and parliamentary work, and they helped to cut down fuel 
> consumtion down to 3 l/km 

No, what your governments have done is handicapped your ability to
move around with ease.  The fact that gas consumption has dropped
is merely a result of your handicaps.







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Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brock Hannibal)
Date: 14 Jun 2001 06:59:48 -0700

Burkhard W�lfel  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

>
>
>"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>> 
>> Rotten168 wrote:
>>> 
>>> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Matthew Gardiner wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I like SANE people.  Most black people I know are sane
>>>>>>> (unlike you). Gays are suicidal, which is not sane.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Actually you may be right there. Young gay men are having
>>>>>> unprotected sex at an extremely high and foolish rate, which
>>>>>> is suicide. But it doesn't have to be that way.
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, unfortunately, in the US, they simply try to apply
>>>>> the same logic from hetrosexual sex education and information
>>>>> to the gay community. Here in New Zealand, the government
>>>>> gives money to the gay community organisation in charge of
>>>>> sex education and information, and since then, the number of 
>>>>> aids/hiv cases has gone down dramatically, simply by
>>>>> listening to the targeted group, rather than trying to use
>>>>> cheap generalisations to create a framework.  Europe is
>>>>> another example of governments addressing the issue instead
>>>>> of ducking the issue, as the US has done for the last 15
>>>>> years because it doesn't win votes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regarding Aarons comment, "Gays are suicidal", that is
>>>>> correct, they have a higher rate of depression due to people
>>>>> like Aaron making sweaping generalisations and prejudice in
>>>>> the work force and in the community.  I have, on several
>>>>> occasions helped people in that position (nearing suicide), 
>>>>> and unlike Aaron, I don't need to be prejudice to prove that
>>>>> I am hetrosexual. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Matthew Gardiner
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not trying to prove anything.  I'm just goddamned sick and
>>>> tired of every loser in this country fucking up their
>>>> life....all on their own, and then whining and whining until
>>>> the fool assholes in Congress say, "There, there....have some
>>>> of the TAXPAYER'S MONEY...", taking even more out of my
>>>> pocket. 
>>> 
>>> Good point actually and I agree. But gays aren't asking
>>> Congress for money. People are asking for AIDS research money,
>>> but AIDS affects everyone, not just homosexuals.
>>> 
>>> But, it's all about personal responsibility, yes.
>>> 
>>>> Enough of this nonsense.
>>>> 
>>>> Screw them.  In this day and age, if you have AIDS, you're an
>>>> idiot, and should be just lined up against the wall and shot,
>>>> just on principle, for being such a fucking dumbass.
>>> 
>>> You have a tendency to make a good point and then blow your
>>> foot off with stupid bigoted assertions. This is one of them.
>> 
>> U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
>> 
>> EXPOSURE CATEGORY Sub-totals # of AIDS CASES
>> Men who have sex with men - 326,051
>> Injecting drug use - -
>> MALE 126,889 -
>> FEMALE 46,804 -
>> TOTAL - 173,693
>> Men who have sex w/men and inject drugs - 43,640
>> Hemophilia/coagulation disorder - -
>> MALE 4,663 -
>> FEMALE 248 -
>> TOTAL - 4,911
>> Heterosexual contact - -
>> MALE 23,361 -
>> FEMALE 43,128 -
>> TOTAL - 66,490
>> Receipt of blood transfusion, blood components, or tissue - -
>> MALE 4,784 - FEMALE 3,598 - TOTAL - 8,382 Risk not reported or
>> identified - - MALE 41,037 -
>> FEMALE 15,533 -
>> TOTAL - 56,572
>> 
>> - center for disease control, 1999
>
>9th time w/out reference to the actual publication

In the time it's taken you to write all these responses to Aaron you 
could easily have searched for the CDC website. Here you fuckin' 
idiot:

 http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/pubs/facts.htm

-- 
Brock

"Put a $20 gold piece on my watch chain so the boys'll know I died 
standin' pat"

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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:30:22 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> Ed Cogburn wrote:
> >
> > Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> >
> > > Ed Cogburn wrote:
> > >
> > >> Aaron R. Kulkis wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> which DEADLY, INCURABLE diseases are spread by heterosexual contact?
> > >>
> > >> Acquired Immune Deficiency Syndrome.
> > >
> > >
> > > Not for men.
> >
> > What the hell does that mean?  Heterosexual men are dying by the
> > hundreds around the world.  Did you even bother to read what I said?
> > What part of "orphans who have lost their parents to AIDS" did you not
> > understand?
> 
> U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
> 
17th time w/out reference to the actual publication
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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:31:09 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> EXPOSURE CATEGORY Sub-totals # of AIDS CASES

18th time w/out reference to the actual publication

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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:31:41 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:

that numbers for the 19th time w/out reference to the actual publication
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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:34:25 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Aaron. 
Be serious, wont you?
not for the 19th time.

"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> chrisv wrote:
> >
> > "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >Gays are suicidal, which is not sane.
> >
> > False premise, you logically-handicapped moron.
> 
> U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
> 
> EXPOSURE CATEGORY Sub-totals # of AIDS CASES
> Men who have sex with men - 326,051
> Injecting drug use - -
> MALE 126,889 -
> FEMALE 46,804 -
> TOTAL - 173,693
> Men who have sex w/men and inject drugs - 43,640
> Hemophilia/coagulation disorder - -
> MALE 4,663 -
> FEMALE 248 -
> TOTAL - 4,911
> Heterosexual contact - -
> MALE 23,361 -
> FEMALE 43,128 -
> TOTAL - 66,490
> Receipt of blood transfusion, blood components, or tissue - -
> MALE 4,784 -
> FEMALE 3,598 -
> TOTAL - 8,382
> Risk not reported or identified - -
> MALE 41,037 -
> FEMALE 15,533 -
> TOTAL - 56,572
> 
>  - center for disease control, 1999
> 
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
> 
> L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
>    can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> K: Truth in advertising:
>         Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
>         Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
>         Special Interest Sierra Club,
>         Anarchist Members of the ACLU
>         Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
>         The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
>         Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
> 
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
>    The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
>    also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> 
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
>    challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
>    between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
>    Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> 
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
>     premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
>     you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
>     you are lazy, stupid people"
> 
> G:  Knackos...you're a retard.
> 
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
>    adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> 
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
>    her behavior improves.
> 
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
>    ...despite (C) above.
> 
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> 
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
>    method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
>    direction that she doesn't like.
> 
> A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:40:36 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > What part of  AIDS, Hepatitis, Tuberculosis, and Kaposi's Sarcoma  do you not 
>understand?
> 
> This is hardly rational terms.  If you are straight, how, for example,
> do you propose to catch AIDS from a homosexual?

He doesn't propose anything.
He's simply scared and that leads him to this punky face-spitting.
But why is he scared? 

Uhmm, I think we will hear that pizza story again.
Very soon.

> --
> http://www.guild.bham.ac.uk/chess-club

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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:33:47 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> "Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
> >
> > > >Are you trying to spurt the typical homophobic legacy, off spring, family
> > > >name bull shit.  How is your son being gay going to affect you? apart
> > from
> > > >getting told his new boyfriends name, what will change? he will have the
> > > >same personality, the same characteristics, he will still look up to you
> > as
> > > >a father.  Please, give me an insight into the mystical "father-son
> > bond",
> > > >because aparently, you have problems expressing yourself.
> > > >Matthew Gardiner
> > >
> > >  Actually he was quite clear. Your scenario of if I had a son
> > >  I wouldn't be the least bit dissapointed that he loved having guys
> > >  ramming there cocks up his ass like he was steve chaney and the family
> > >  line is dead, like steve chaney is mindless PC babble.
> >
> > Don't you think the comment regarding "family line" sound very primitive and
> > primal?
> 
> Life is primal.

Yours. 
Mine is of complex beauty.

> 
> So, like, what's your point?
> 
> >
> > Matthew Gardiner
> >
> > --
> > I am the blue screen of death
> > nobody hears your scream's
> 
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
> 
> L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
>    can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> K: Truth in advertising:
>         Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
>         Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
>         Special Interest Sierra Club,
>         Anarchist Members of the ACLU
>         Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
>         The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
>         Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
> 
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
>    The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
>    also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> 
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
>    challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
>    between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
>    Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> 
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
>     premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
>     you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
>     you are lazy, stupid people"
> 
> G:  Knackos...you're a retard.
> 
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
>    adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> 
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
>    her behavior improves.
> 
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
>    ...despite (C) above.
> 
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> 
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
>    method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
>    direction that she doesn't like.
> 
> A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: European arrogance and ignorance...
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:44:58 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Rotten168 wrote:
> 
> "T. Max Devlin" wrote:
> >
> > Said drsquare in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sun, 10 Jun 2001 14:17:23
> > >On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 06:11:22 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> > > (T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> > >>Said drsquare in alt.destroy.microsoft on Sat, 09 Jun 2001 21:02:10
> > >>>On Sat, 09 Jun 2001 17:34:24 GMT, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> > >
> > >>>>AFAIK, you are the only one to mention saluting anything.
> > >>>
> > >>>You knew what he meant.
> > >>
> > >>Yes, I did.  Did you know what I meant?  That seems more doubtful.
> > >
> > >Not if you continue to word things so badly.
> >
> > I'm sorry if you're insulted, but I have to point out that the problem
> > is on your end.  You are confused and muddle-headed.  That is not my
> > fault.  It is, however, my problem, and I will try to help.  Ask
> > questions, and stop avoiding logical fallacies.
> >
> > Here, this might help: http://www.intrepidsoftware.com/fallacy/toc.htm
> >
> >    [...]
> > >In Holland they get personal freedom. Unlike the US.
> >
> > Please explain.
> 
> Drugs, alcohol, sex; things are MUCH more libertarian (freedom) in
> Denmark than in the US. It's all about personal responsibility.

I agree. The Netherlands are very progressive. Very positive and
optimistic too, as far as I know some. 


> 
> --
> - Brent
> 
> "General Veer, prepare your underpants for ground assault."
> - Darth Vader
> 
> http://rotten168.home.att.net

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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: alt.bonehead.steve-chaney,soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:35:13 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Aaron. 
Be serious. Not for the 20th time.

Frog2 wrote:
> 
> drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:32:03 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> >  ("S.T. Pickrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> >
> > >drsquare wrote:
> > >
> > >> That part that they're equally transferrable through homosexual and
> > >> heterosexual sex.
> > >
> > >In Africa and Asia you're certainly right.
> > >
> > >In North America, it seems more homosexuals get it. Whether the
> > >gap will close or not is another issue.
> >
> > Do they?
> 
> yes.
> 
> > Have you got any EVIDENCE? No, you haven't.
> 
> perhaps not.
> but i do:
> 
> U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
> 
> EXPOSURE CATEGORY Sub-totals # of AIDS CASES
> Men who have sex with men - 326,051
> Injecting drug use - -
> MALE 126,889 -
> FEMALE 46,804 -
> TOTAL - 173,693
> Men who have sex w/men and inject drugs - 43,640
> Hemophilia/coagulation disorder - -
> MALE 4,663 -
> FEMALE 248 -
> TOTAL - 4,911
> Heterosexual contact - -
> MALE 23,361 -
> FEMALE 43,128 -
> TOTAL - 66,490
> Receipt of blood transfusion, blood components, or tissue - -
> MALE 4,784 -
> FEMALE 3,598 -
> TOTAL - 8,382
> Risk not reported or identified - -
> MALE 41,037 -
> FEMALE 15,533 -
> TOTAL - 56,572
> 
>  - center for disease control, 1999
> 
> hth
>                         jackie 'anakin' tokeman
> 
> fat kid: i've got some fudge hidden up my ass - you want some?
> chaney: yeah right - i'm not falling for that one again.

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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: 
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: forgotten link posted here
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:49:02 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
> 
> Burkhard W�lfel wrote:
> 
> >
> > Burkhard W�lfel wrote:
> >
> >>"Matthew Gardiner (BOFH)" wrote:
> >>
> >>>"Edward Rosten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >>>
> >>>>Not to mention the most successful (longest running) spacestation.
> >>>>
> >>>>-Ed
> >>>>
> >>>From what I heard, It was actually running DIGITAL UNIX as their main OS.
> >>>
> >>>Matthew Gardiner
> >>>
> >
> > http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/station/crew/exp1/ex1logs.html
> >
> >
> 
> I was actually talking about MIR and Salyut seriues, which there were 7
> of them.The Salyut series were used as trial runs before launching MIR,
> which is Russian for "peace".

Yes, that's true. 
I thought the ISS Stuff might interest anyone perhaps...

> 
> The Soviet Union Space programme is a very interesting topic, esp. with
> the release of information over the last 10 years, one can appreciate
> how advanced they were in terms of its capabilities, not only in the
> field of science but in defence as well.
> 
> Matthew Gardiner

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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: alt.bonehead.steve-chaney,soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:36:19 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

woops!
New numbers!

Worthless because not properly cited.

Frog2 wrote:
> 
> drsquare <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 15:32:03 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> >  ("S.T. Pickrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> >
> > >drsquare wrote:
> > >
> > >> That part that they're equally transferrable through homosexual and
> > >> heterosexual sex.
> > >
> > >In Africa and Asia you're certainly right.
> > >
> > >In North America, it seems more homosexuals get it. Whether the
> > >gap will close or not is another issue.
> >
> > Do they?
> 
> yes.
> 
> > Have you got any EVIDENCE? No, you haven't.
> 
> see also:
> 
> U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
> 
> Exposure category                        % of total
> 
> Men who have Sex with Men (MSM)   326,051     48%
> IV drug use                       173,693     26%
> MSM/IV                             43,640      6%
> Hemophilia                          4,911      1%
> Heterosexual contact               66,490     10%
> Transfusion                         8,382      1%
> Risk not reported or known         56,572      8%
> 
> Total:                            679,739
> 
> hth
>                         jackie 'anakin' tokeman
> 
> fat kid: i've got some fudge hidden up my ass - you want some?
> chaney: yeah right - i'm not falling for that one again.

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From: Burkhard =?iso-8859-1?Q?W=F6lfel?= 
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 15:55:35 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> 
> drsquare wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:15:43 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> >  (Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> >
> > >"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > >> U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
> > >
> > >Are theses AIDS statistics or HIV disease statistics?
> > >Do you know the difference?
> >
> > No, he doesn't.
> 
> Waht part of "U.S. AIDS CASES" do you not understand?

What part of the word "reference", or "citation" if you want, do you not
understand?
I guess you just know how to ctrl-c'n'ctrl-v.
In the given form your "references" are not a basis for discussion. They
are assumptions.

> 
> >
> > >> EXPOSURE CATEGORY Sub-totals # of AIDS CASES
> > >> Men who have sex with men - 326,051
> > >
> > >What kind of sex is this? Oral, anal, what.
> > >Are these new or old cases?
> >
> > He doesn't know. The people who came up with the statistics don't
> > know. That is why the statistics are worthless.
> 
> They tell us that Gays infect each other FAR FAR FAR more frequenty
> than heterosexual.
> 
> >
> > >> Injecting drug use - -
> > >> MALE 126,889 -
> > >> FEMALE 46,804 -
> > >> TOTAL - 173,693
> > >
> > >Can you tell us why the number for men is higher for men Here?
> >
> > No, he can't. Neither can the people who came up with the statistics.
> >
> > >> Men who have sex w/men and inject drugs - 43,640
> > >> Hemophilia/coagulation disorder - -
> > >> MALE 4,663 -
> > >> FEMALE 248 -
> > >> TOTAL - 4,911
> > >
> > >.. these people have AIDS?
> >
> > It doesn't say. The statistics are worthless.
> >
> > >> Risk not reported or identified - -
> > >> MALE 41,037 -
> > >> FEMALE 15,533 -
> > >> TOTAL - 56,572
> > >>
> > >>  - center for disease control, 1999
> > >
> > >Without some more information thee numbers are useless, and really dont
> > >say anything.
> >
> > Looks like Kuntis loses again. Unfortuanetly, I had to killfile him
> > after he pasted all those pointless statistics over and over again...
> 
> --
> Aaron R. Kulkis
> Unix Systems Engineer
> DNRC Minister of all I survey
> ICQ # 3056642
> 
> L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
>    can defeat the email search bots.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> K: Truth in advertising:
>         Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
>         Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
>         Special Interest Sierra Club,
>         Anarchist Members of the ACLU
>         Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
>         The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
>         Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
> 
> J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
>    The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
>    also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
> 
> I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
>    challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
>    between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
>    Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
> 
> H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
>     premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
>     you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
>     you are lazy, stupid people"
> 
> G:  Knackos...you're a retard.
> 
> F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
>    adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
> 
> E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
>    her behavior improves.
> 
> D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
>    ...despite (C) above.
> 
> C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
> 
> B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
>    method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
>    direction that she doesn't like.
> 
> A:  The wise man is mocked by fools.

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