Linux-Advocacy Digest #239, Volume #35 Thu, 14 Jun 01 18:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: OT: Provincial division of the Netherlands (was Re: European arrogance and
ignorance..). (Sigvaldi Eggertsson)
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals ("Aaron R. Kulkis")
Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags ("Christopher L. Estep")
Re: Will MS get away with this one? (David Petticord)
Re: CP: Re: Want Linux on your desktop? Nine reasons to forget about it (eek-a-mouse)
Re: So what software is the NYSE running ? ("Christopher L. Estep")
Re: So what software is the NYSE running ? ("Christopher L. Estep")
Re: So what software is the NYSE running ? ("Christopher L. Estep")
Re: OT: Provincial division of the Netherlands (was Re: European arrogance and
ignorance..). ("Mart van de Wege")
Re: So what software is the NYSE running ? (Todd Merritt)
Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and ignorance...)
("Chad Myers")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sigvaldi Eggertsson)
Subject: Re: OT: Provincial division of the Netherlands (was Re: European arrogance
and ignorance..).
Date: 14 Jun 2001 13:55:24 -0700
> >
> > Still, I don't know near as much about Holland as I do about Georgia. So
> > Holland is an area within the Netherlands? I guess an eastern or
> > western province?
> >
> Ok,
>
> A little background here. The full name of the country is 'Koninkrijk der
> Nederlanden', in English: 'Kingdom of the Netherlands'. The short form is
> 'Nederland' or 'Netherlands' for you. 'Holland' proper refers to 2 of our
> 12 provinces, South Holland and North Holland. Usually the province of
> Utrecht is counted as Holland as well. Now it is easy to see why
> foreigners mix up Holland with the Netherlands, as those 3 provinces
> comprise our 4 big cities (Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Utrecht and The Hague)
> and most of our population.
> There is however a lot of resentment about being called 'Holland' in the
> remaining 9 or 10 provinces, especially those below the confluence of the
> Rhine and Meuse rivers (Zeeland, Noord-Brabant and Limburg). This
> resentment is mostly historical, and we're not fanatics about it, but it
> still grates on our nerves (I'm from Zeeland, if you look at the map it's
> the bunch of peninsulas in the south-west). The cause is mostly because
> until the mid 19th century 2 of those provinces were not full provinces
> but only protectorates. If you know that until Napoleon the Netherlands
> was a Federal Republic then you may see the problem. Brabant and Limburg
> are viewed by those 'above the rivers' as hicks, whereas they see the
> northerners as arrogant pompous asses.
> Zeeland is a bit of an exception, as it was one of the founding provinces
> of the republic in the 16th century, so historically it has always been
> considered part of the country. On the other hand, we do have a rather
> quaint accent, which still distinguishes us from the rest of the country,
> and they do view us as country bumpkins. As a result, we tend to speak
> Standard Dutch fairly well.
> The Northern provinces are a quiet reserved lot on the whole, where the
> distinction is mostly city vs. rural areas. Of course since most of our
> cities are in 'Holland' the distinction mentioned above plays a role as
> well, but not as much as with the southern provinces.
>
> Hope this clarifies it a little
>
> Mart
Thanks for the geography lesson but I hope it does not offend you all
that the name of the country in Icelandic is "Holland" and we call the
Benelux countries "Ni�url�nd".
Sigvaldi Eggertsson
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:00:20 -0400
Rick wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > drsquare wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:15:43 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> > > (Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> > >
> > > >"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > >
> > > >> U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
> > > >
> > > >Are theses AIDS statistics or HIV disease statistics?
> > > >Do you know the difference?
> > >
> > > No, he doesn't.
> >
> > Waht part of "U.S. AIDS CASES" do you not understand?
> >
>
> Do you know the differnece between HIV disease and end stage AIDS? Its
> an easy question.
> Answer it. Then we may find out if yo have any idea
> about the numbers you are quoting.
AIDS is the manifestation of symptoms caused by HIV
Hope that helps, dumbass.
>
> > >
> > > >> EXPOSURE CATEGORY Sub-totals # of AIDS CASES
> > > >> Men who have sex with men - 326,051
> > > >
> > > >What kind of sex is this? Oral, anal, what.
> > > >Are these new or old cases?
> > >
> > > He doesn't know. The people who came up with the statistics don't
> > > know. That is why the statistics are worthless.
> >
> > They tell us that Gays infect each other FAR FAR FAR more frequenty
> > than heterosexual.
> >
>
> I repeat... What kind of sex is this? Oral, anal, what. The question is
> impirtant in interpreting these numbers. These numbers do NOT tell us
> that homosexuals infect each other more frequently than heterosexuals.
> They DO tell us there are more homosexuals withthe disease. The US is
> somewhat unique in that it's main HIV+ population is homosexual.
>
> > >
> > > >> Injecting drug use - -
> > > >> MALE 126,889 -
> > > >> FEMALE 46,804 -
> > > >> TOTAL - 173,693
> > > >
> > > >Can you tell us why the number for men is higher for men Here?
> > >
> > > No, he can't. Neither can the people who came up with the statistics.
> > >
> > > >> Men who have sex w/men and inject drugs - 43,640
> > > >> Hemophilia/coagulation disorder - -
> > > >> MALE 4,663 -
> > > >> FEMALE 248 -
> > > >> TOTAL - 4,911
> > > >
> > > >.. these people have AIDS?
> > >
> > > It doesn't say. The statistics are worthless.
> > >
>
> Actually, these are merely numbers. And you didnt answer... why do you
> thnk the number of men of the IV drug use risk group was larger than
> women? Do you have any idea? Tis is a question that is important to
> understand the spread of the disease.
>
> > > >> Risk not reported or identified - -
> > > >> MALE 41,037 -
> > > >> FEMALE 15,533 -
> > > >> TOTAL - 56,572
> > > >>
> > > >> - center for disease control, 1999
> > > >
> > > >Without some more information thee numbers are useless, and really dont
> > > >say anything.
> > >
> > > Looks like Kuntis loses again. Unfortuanetly, I had to killfile him
> > > after he pasted all those pointless statistics over and over again...
> >
> > --
> > Aaron R. Kulkis
>
> <onnoxious sig snipped>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Aaron R. Kulkis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 17:00:57 -0400
Rick wrote:
>
> "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> >
> > Burkhard W�lfel wrote:
> > >
> > > "Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > drsquare wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:15:43 -0400, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> > > > > (Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >"Aaron R. Kulkis" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >> U.S. AIDS CASES BY EXPOSURE CATEGORY
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Are theses AIDS statistics or HIV disease statistics?
> > > > > >Do you know the difference?
> > > > >
> > > > > No, he doesn't.
> > > >
> > > > Waht part of "U.S. AIDS CASES" do you not understand?
> > >
> > > What part of the word "reference", or "citation" if you want, do you not
> > > understand?
> >
> > What part of U.S. Center for Disease Control did you not comprehend?
> >
>
> Im going to ask again. Are you sure these are numbres of people with end
> stage AIDS, or are they numbers of HIV+ people or people showing HIV/AID
> related complex?
Are _all_ AIDS patients HIV+,
a) no
B) YES
>
> > > I guess you just know how to ctrl-c'n'ctrl-v.
> > > In the given form your "references" are not a basis for discussion. They
> > > are assumptions.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >> EXPOSURE CATEGORY Sub-totals # of AIDS CASES
> > > > > >> Men who have sex with men - 326,051
> > > > > >
> > > > > >What kind of sex is this? Oral, anal, what.
> > > > > >Are these new or old cases?
> > > > >
> > > > > He doesn't know. The people who came up with the statistics don't
> > > > > know. That is why the statistics are worthless.
> > > >
> > > > They tell us that Gays infect each other FAR FAR FAR more frequenty
> > > > than heterosexual.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >> Injecting drug use - -
> > > > > >> MALE 126,889 -
> > > > > >> FEMALE 46,804 -
> > > > > >> TOTAL - 173,693
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Can you tell us why the number for men is higher for men Here?
> > > > >
> > > > > No, he can't. Neither can the people who came up with the statistics.
> > > > >
> > > > > >> Men who have sex w/men and inject drugs - 43,640
> > > > > >> Hemophilia/coagulation disorder - -
> > > > > >> MALE 4,663 -
> > > > > >> FEMALE 248 -
> > > > > >> TOTAL - 4,911
> > > > > >
> > > > > >.. these people have AIDS?
> > > > >
> > > > > It doesn't say. The statistics are worthless.
> > > > >
> > > > > >> Risk not reported or identified - -
> > > > > >> MALE 41,037 -
> > > > > >> FEMALE 15,533 -
> > > > > >> TOTAL - 56,572
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> - center for disease control, 1999
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Without some more information thee numbers are useless, and really dont
> > > > > >say anything.
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks like Kuntis loses again. Unfortuanetly, I had to killfile him
> > > > > after he pasted all those pointless statistics over and over again...
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Aaron R. Kulkis
> > > > Unix Systems Engineer
> >
> > --
> <obnoxious sig snipped>
--
Aaron R. Kulkis
Unix Systems Engineer
DNRC Minister of all I survey
ICQ # 3056642
L: This seems to have reduced my spam. Maybe if everyone does it we
can defeat the email search bots. [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shalala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakhan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
challenge to describe even one philosophical difference
between himself and the communists demonstrates that, in fact,
Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
you folks feel listless and disoriented is simply because
you are lazy, stupid people"
G: Knackos...you're a retard.
F: Unit_4's "Kook hunt" reminds me of "Jimmy Baker's" harangues against
adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
C: Jet Silverman claims to have killfiled me.
B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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From: "Christopher L. Estep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: Microsft IE6 smart tags
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:02:45 GMT
"T. Max Devlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> You're sputtering. The fact is, MS *has* changed, added, deleted, and
> modified content according to their marketing strategy, with little or
> no regard for factual integrity.
Max, it is *you* that are sputtering. You answer a quote with an opinion
with no quotes, let alone facts from an unbiased source, and ask us to
disprove it. Then when we do, you claim the source is in the pocket of
Microsoft (even when your beloved Register is the source).
Sounds like *hyperbole* to me.
Christopher L. Estep
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Petticord)
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft
Subject: Re: Will MS get away with this one?
Date: 14 Jun 2001 14:13:16 -0700
T. Max Devlin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
<snipped reasonable summation of PC history>
> >Sorry, Microsoft *did* some good. They may have a *very* tarnished
> >reputation now, but that isn't the point of my argument.
>
<snip>
> That is the most that can be said for them. Despite popular opinion,
> there is no "fine line" between monopolization and competing. There is
> no legal way to act anti-competitively, and just because it might take
> twenty years to understand just what the difference is if you aren't
> watching to begin with doesn't mean it doesn't occur.
There is no legal way to act anti-competitively when you define
anti-competitive to mean "illegal".
The government can, and does, impose anti-competitive tariffs and have
it still be legal. Congressmen can, and do, give targeted
anti-competitive breaks to companies and it is still legal. Patents
are legal, 17-year, permits to be anti-competitive. Max, you have yet
to define what "anti-competitive" means other than to say it is
illegal and it is what Microsoft does.
>
> I cannot know what particular anti-competitive actions MS took to
> prevent competition. But that competition did not form is certain, and
> that does not happen in a free market. PARTICULARLY in a new market on
> a product which has barely any costs and can be of rather arbitrary
> quality in a consumer market. Competition will always form in a free
> market, so it is worth looking at what really happened, without vague
> teleologies and second-guessing and urban legend myths about why any
> company acted as they did. If we presume all companies act to increase
> the profit they make, then Microsoft's actions, alone, don't make any
> sense. They had a business model which could only pay off if they had
> market dominance, monopoly power. That, my friend, is illegal.
That, my friend, is exactly what you would expect in a low
transactional cost market. This is a market where the Cost of Goods
sold is less than 0.1% of the product price. For sake of argument,
zero transactional cost. Assume three potential companies start with
equal shares of the market. Natural perturbations will cause them to
become unequal. The one with the larger share will then have more
money for advertising, research, etc. This will cause the share to
increase even more. It is a positive feed-back loop.
Max, you may not like anti-competitive effects of Marketing but it is
very effective and it is legal. It is especially effective on the
herd mentality that was brain-washed by a generation of TV commercials
telling them that expensive Brand Name products are much better than
low-cost alternatives.
Yes, it is very possible for a new, low transactional cost market to
become dominated through legal means. Call it FUD, call it Vaporware,
call it Marketing. In the United States, call it legal.
Did Microsoft violate Section 2? I think it did. It is virtually
impossible to be a monopoly and not be guilty of maintaining a
monopoly. But it may be possible monopolization is inevitable in this
market. Even the DoJ lawyer didn't answer the Appellate Court
question "We are going to replace one monopoly with another if you're
right; right?"
<snip>
> If a business relies on
> market share as a 'competitive advantage', they are not acting
> competitively, but anti-competitively. If a business needs any certain
> amount of market power or market share to profitably sell the number of
> units they are selling, they are monopolizing; they are breaking the
> law.
Are you suggesting there is no such thing as efficiencies of scale? A
company with a large market share has a lower cost per unit than one
with a smaller market share. It is perfectly normal for a company's
profit to be very dependent on the cost benefits of being a larger
operation than its competitors.
<snipped>
> Since competitive merit was obviously not what got
> it on 95% of the PCs, it is rather naive to presume that it being better
> than anything else in *any* particular way is simply due to the fact
> that Microsoft illegally prevented competition in the PC OS market.
or convinced the herd mentality to buy a Brand Name product.
> To
> say "only Windows has COM" is to admit that Microsoft has acted
> illegally. If COM were any good, there would be a competitive market
> for suppliers of it, since it cannot be defined as something that is
> covered by either copyright or patent, explicitly. This is no surprise;
> when you examine whatever is called "COM" it rapidly vanishes into
> "whatever MS says 'COM' is, though they won't point to any single
> specification or code or product or thing that it is."
Is that illegal? So far the strongest evidence you, and the DoJ,
presented is that Microsoft must have violated Section 2 because they
agressively achieved and maintained a dominate position in an
important market. As Section 2 of the Sherman Act is written, it is
difficult to disagree with that simple logic. That is, as long as the
Supreme Court holds it to be constitutional.
Provoking Thought,
David Petticord
Complete Networks, Inc.
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From: eek-a-mouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: nz.comp
Subject: Re: CP: Re: Want Linux on your desktop? Nine reasons to forget about it
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:11:50 +1200
Angel of Paradise.. wrote:
> Don't put down Eathlink as a chap from their sorted out my HP Scanner
> problem with my Nic, seem to know his stuff and picked on the problem
> strait away, the only one that did, had to turn of my TCP/IP Bindings...
Its a problem with your computer , not your scanner.
You could have got the same info about bindings from
http://grc.com/su-bondage.htm
Win 98 teaches you nothing about networking
--
The only way to stop piracy, use a free OS
GNU/Linux user #217139
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From: "Christopher L. Estep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: So what software is the NYSE running ?
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:17:43 GMT
"Jon Johansan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3b24e70d$0$2634$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> "Norman D. Megill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:7FSU6.761$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <%4uU6.12535$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > >You mean like Nasdaq? They're running Microsoft and I haven't heard a
> peep
> > >from them about any crashes.
> > >
> > >Well, I guess there goes your theory. Perhaps NYSE should look at
NASDAQ
> > >and see what they're doing.
> >
> > Contrary to MS marketing hype, the role of Win2K is non-critical
front-end
> > stuff like the web site.
> >
> >
>
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=nasdaq+win2k+rockville&btnG=Search&meta=si
> te%3Dgroups
> >
>
> Given that your source is a single post from "alt.destroy.microsoft" - you
> don't think that it's FULL OF SHIT?
>
> It is. NASDAQ continues what they started in July of 2000 - converting to
> W2K on the floor, web AND the back server room. You can try to deny it but
> it's true.
Absolutely true.
In fact, the NASD New York trading floor is only *one* of their trading
floors.
The NASD has complete backup floors in Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, San
Francisco, and at NASD headquarters in Washington, DC.
The NYSE has backup floors...but only in New York City.
Christopher L. Estep
(NOTE: The NASD (National Association of Securities Dealers) is the "trade
association" of the securities tading and underwriting "industry" and is a
not-for-profit corporation under District of Columbia law, with headquarters
in Washington, DC. Their primary asset is the National Association of
Securities Dealers Automatic Quatation (NASDAQ) system/exchange, the current
primary competitor to the New York Stock Exchange "Big Board".)
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From: "Christopher L. Estep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: So what software is the NYSE running ?
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:20:28 GMT
"Matthew Gardiner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:9g3iku$un1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Given that your source is a single post from "alt.destroy.microsoft" -
you
> > don't think that it's FULL OF SHIT?
> >
> > It is. NASDAQ continues what they started in July of 2000 - converting
to
> > W2K on the floor, web AND the back server room. You can try to deny it
but
> > it's true.
>
> Well, I can't deny or accept it, however, what I do know is that the front
> and back servers are Intel Xeon based (the couple of Intels ad's I have
seen
> claiming to be the "engine" behind he NASDAQ), thus leaving very few OS's
> left to pick from.
>
> Matthew Gardiner
However, UNIX and Linux were both available as alternatives...and NASD went
with Microsoft. (Not that NASD didn't have other listed companies to choose
from; RedHat, Inc. (NASDAQ NMS: RHAT) had a Xeon-enhanced version of RH
Enterprise on their offer sheet.)
Christopher L. Estep
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From: "Christopher L. Estep" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: So what software is the NYSE running ?
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 21:22:53 GMT
"GreyCloud" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Jon Johansan wrote:
> >
> > "Norman D. Megill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:7FSU6.761$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > In article <%4uU6.12535$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > Chad Myers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >You mean like Nasdaq? They're running Microsoft and I haven't heard a
> > peep
> > > >from them about any crashes.
> > > >
> > > >Well, I guess there goes your theory. Perhaps NYSE should look at
NASDAQ
> > > >and see what they're doing.
> > >
> > > Contrary to MS marketing hype, the role of Win2K is non-critical
front-end
> > > stuff like the web site.
> > >
> > >
> >
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=nasdaq+win2k+rockville&btnG=Search&meta=si
> > te%3Dgroups
> > >
> >
> > Given that your source is a single post from "alt.destroy.microsoft" -
you
> > don't think that it's FULL OF SHIT?
> >
> > It is. NASDAQ continues what they started in July of 2000 - converting
to
> > W2K on the floor, web AND the back server room. You can try to deny it
but
> > it's true.
>
> Gee... now that must explain why the NASDAQ is falling thru the floor
> then.
> :-)
The NASDAQ is heavily weighted towards technology stocks. The Dow hasn't
been exactly *safe* these days (remember, Intel and Microsoft are both part
of the Dow 30 Industrials; the first non-NYSE stocks to be part of the Dow).
Christopher L. Estep
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From: "Mart van de Wege" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: OT: Provincial division of the Netherlands (was Re: European arrogance
and ignorance..).
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:26:40 +0200
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Sigvaldi
Eggertsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
<snipped a lot on 'Holland' vs 'Netherlands'
>
> Thanks for the geography lesson but I hope it does not offend you all
> that the name of the country in Icelandic is "Holland" and we call the
> Benelux countries "Ni�url�nd".
>
> Sigvaldi Eggertsson
No problem,
I am quite used to it, but it is irritating nonetheless. Thanks for
caring though.
Mart
--
Playing for the high one, dancing with the devil,
Going with the flow, it's all the same to me,
Seven or Eleven, snake eyes watching you,
Double up or quit, double stake or split, The Ace Of Spades
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From: Todd Merritt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy
Subject: Re: So what software is the NYSE running ?
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 11:51:28 -0700
Jon Johansan wrote:
>
> "Dennis G. Allard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:<84aU6.9834$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > > > I'm talking about what they [the NYSE] use for managing trades.
> > >
> > > Well, their web site runs under AIX, so one would assume that they're
> > > probably a big IBM shop, and are probably running trades under AIX
> and/or
> > > OS/390.
> >
> > If they were running anything Microsoft, they would have crashes so much
> > more often it would make this little down time look like a holiday!
>
> You might want to consider that the NASDAQ runs MS for 90% of their
> operation and has had 0. That's zero MS related downtime since their
> adopting NT.
I find that hard to believe, unless they periodically reboot their
servers, or are not attached to a network.
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From: "Chad Myers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.ms-windows.nt.advocacy,comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: OT: Where is American pride?... (was Re: European arrogance and
ignorance...)
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 16:36:23 -0500
"Thaddius Maximus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> drsquare wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 12 Jun 2001 23:38:54 -0700, in comp.os.linux.advocacy,
> > ("Stephen S. Edwards II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) wrote:
> >
> > >"Rotten168" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >
> > >> Well, let me throw this one at you, how do you feel about the fact that
> > >> here in America, somebody under 21 can buy a gun and serve his country,
> > >> but he/she can't even walk into a friggin' bar and order a beer? Where's
> > >> the American freedom there?
> > >
> > >It is preposterous, and such laws are a result
> > >of the liberal mindset.
> >
> > Liberal mindset? How are such draconian laws liberal?
> >
> > >That law was as recent
> > >as the 70's, IIRC. The reason why laws like
> > >that one get put into place is because of
> > >a lack of patriotism, and pride. People just
> > >apathetically allow these idiotic politicians
> > >to do their own bidding, without saying a damn
> > >word.
> >
> > Well, that's democracy for you. If I was the absolute dictator of the
> > world, such things would never happen.
> >
>
>
> For the last time - the USA is NOT a democracy and has never been a
> democracy. The USA is a republic!
It's a democratic republic. It's a representative democracy which is
a form of democracy. Either way, it's close enough, so stop bitching =)
-c
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