Linux-Advocacy Digest #284, Volume #35 Fri, 15 Jun 01 22:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Woofbert)
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Woofbert)
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Woofbert)
Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals (Fernandinande Le Mur)
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Woofbert)
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Woofbert)
AIDS: Jo'burg women want 'sperms not rubber'." (Fernandinande Le Mur)
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" (Woofbert)
Re: Linux inheriting "DLL Hell" ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: More microsoft innovation (Woofbert)
Re: Linux wins again.... ("Paolo Ciambotti")
Re: "This will not happen again," said the Microsoft spokesperson. "Period." ("Paolo
Ciambotti")
Re: the world thinks there is only windows. yahoo sucks. ("Paolo Ciambotti")
Re: Linux inheriting "DLL Hell" ("Erik Funkenbusch")
Re: More micro$oft "customer service" ("Erik Funkenbusch")
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:05:22 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Macman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > PLEASE GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL---No one has ever suggested that
> > it goes through Microsoft's servers.
> >
> > But Microsoft's software does change the structure of the web page by
> > adding hyperlinks that the author never intended. Microsoft is clearly
> > involved.
>
> PLEASE GET THIS THROUGH *YOUR* THICK SKULL--- I can make more
> "structural changes" to a page by changing fonts, colors, turning off
> graphics and sounds. Hell, I can use a text-only browser. Is the
> author of my text-only browser involved in a copyright issue?
You can do that all you want; that's part of the generally known and
accepted way that the WWW works. Those are not, however, changes to the
content of the page.
Adding hyperlinks changes the content of the page.
--
Woofbert: Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
email <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>
web http://www.infernosoft.com/woofbert
------------------------------
From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:05:54 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, macman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Macman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > PLEASE GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL---No one has ever suggested
> > > that
> > > it goes through Microsoft's servers.
> > >
> > > But Microsoft's software does change the structure of the web page by
> > > adding hyperlinks that the author never intended. Microsoft is
> > > clearly
> > > involved.
> >
> > PLEASE GET THIS THROUGH *YOUR* THICK SKULL--- I can make more
> > "structural changes" to a page by changing fonts, colors, turning off
> > graphics and sounds. Hell, I can use a text-only browser. Is the
> > author of my text-only browser involved in a copyright issue?
>
> NONE of your examples changes the content of the page -- or adds
> hyperlinks. This is something new.
They look like hyperlinks. They act like hyperinks. They are...
> And I had to tell you to get it through your thick skull because you
> kept pretending that people were saying it went through MS' servers --
> even after many people told you no one was making that claim
--
Woofbert: Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
email <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>
web http://www.infernosoft.com/woofbert
------------------------------
From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:09:08 GMT
In article <9gdqqh$b0q$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ayende Rahien"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Macman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In article <9gdm1o$35d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > "Ayende Rahien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Google change the look of pages, as does anonymizer.com, should
> > > they be sued as well?
> > >
> > Neither Google nor anonymizer changes the _content_ of pages. If
> > they start changing the content, then they should be stopped.
>
> Google colors the pages, anonymizer changes the links so you go
> through their site.
Coloring the pages is an indication that they are served from Google's
archives and not from the actual server. Anonymizer's links are changed
only so that the web server can't see the actual address of the web
site guest; the functional targets are not changed. Inneother case is
the written content of the page changed.
> > Note that you're the one bringing up suing them.
>
> Copyright infrigement usually leads to lawsuits.
If the entity whose copyright is infringed stands to lose or gain enough
money depending on the outcome. You cannot define copyright infringement
bywhether it leads to a lawsuit.
--
Woofbert: Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
email <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>
web http://www.infernosoft.com/woofbert
------------------------------
From: Fernandinande Le Mur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush.limbaugh
Subject: Re: Why homosexuals are no threat to heterosexuals
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:13:35 -0600
Reply-To: Fernandinande Le Mur
http://www.medguide.org.zm/aids/aidszam23.htm
Stop Dry Sex, Kankasa Advises Zambian Women." By Kelvin Shimo
The Post Zambia, January 24, 2000
Women in Zambia should desist from practising dry sex, Planned Parenthood
Association of Zambia (PPAZ) national patron Chibesa Kankansa has advised.
Speaking at a reception hosted for visiting European parliamentarians,
Kankasa said dry sex has contributed to the rapid spread of HIV/AIDS.
Kankasa, describing AIDS as an evil in the community that has led to a high
incidence of orphans, warned that with dry sex the infection rate is
increased. She advised women that the traditional practice be avoided.
Women should stop using drying agents as they increase chances of cuts and
hence infection, Kankansa said.
She said as a government leader during the First Republic, she was in the
forefront advocating against family planning and particularly the use of
pill. At that time we had a population of about 3.5 million and said
nothing on family planning because we were too few, Kankasa said. We
had a lot of rallies on the Copperbelt and the first thing on the agenda
was to ban family planning and the use of contraceptive pills.
Kankansa said because of this, Zambia now had one of the highest population
growth rate on the continent. She said with time she came to realise that
the country was making a mistake and that prompted her to approach the then
president Dr Kenneth Kaunda for an action programme to be put in place to
contain the ever increasing population.
Finance deputy minister Godfrey Simasiku called for ways to be found to
break the silence surrounding the HIV/AIDS scourge.
80 per cent of AIDS victims are ignorant, we must use every opportunity to
talk about AIDS, he said. The country has lost man hours in burials. In
my constituency in Kalabo I am losing a teacher every day. PPAZ national
chairperson Alfred Masupha said a national strategy to fight the disease has
to be found before many more lives are lost.
We should take the scourge of AIDS very seriously or else we may face
extinction. The situation on the ground is very bad, said Masupha. European
parliamentarian Helen Beim, at the same function, called for change in
people s behaviour.
http://www.undp.org/popin/regional/africa/bibs/zamaids.html
An Investigation of the Behavioural Aspects of "Dry Sex"
Practice in Lusaka Urban. NYIRENDA, M. J.
(Lusaka: UNZA, 1991, 44p.) (99)
ABSTRACT
A study was conducted at the Unversity Teaching
Hospital in Lusaka, to explore and document new
information related to the behavioural aspects of dry
sex behaviour after they have been counselled about
the risk of HIV associated with dry sex practice. Dry
sex was widely practised (86%) among the repondents,
cutting across all social, economic and ethnic
backgrounds. It was discovered that most women were not
aware that dry sex might increase their risk of
contracting HIV infection.
Here's an unpopular stat - I verified it a while back via CDC
info, etc.:
Physical factors
Certain physical factors make it easier for a man to transmit
HIV to a woman than vice versa:
In the absence of sexually transmitted infections, a man with
HIV has an average chance of one in 500 of passing the virus to
a woman in a single act of unprotected vaginal intercourse.
The odds of woman-to-man transmission in the same situation are
about one in 1,000 [9].
------------------------------
From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:12:23 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > Don't I, as the web page developer, have the *right* to have my page
> > free of smart tags? Why do you insisit on taking away the web page
> > author's right to determine what hyperlinks are displayed on his web
> > page?
>
> For the same reason we took away the author's right to determine what
> fonts and colors are displayed on his web page.
Nope. Not the same reason.
There is no standard set of fonts that every computer is guaranteed to
have; as a WWW author or publisher you accept that your page may be
displayed in some other font. However, nothing in that structure said
that the browser would automatically add new links to pages where no
such links existed before.
> It's *my* computer. How I choose to display your web page is none of
> your business. You supply the defaults, I supply the customization.
I'm fine with that, as long as it's really you doing it. What I object
to is Microsoft (or anyone else) supplying new informational content in
the form of additional hyperlinks on my web site.
--
Woofbert: Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
email <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>
web http://www.infernosoft.com/woofbert
------------------------------
From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:13:15 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > Settle down.
> >
> > We know that the file on the server is not changed.
> >
> > What's at issue is that new hyperlinks are added to the text of a web
> > page before it is shown to the user, and that the author of the web
> > page
> > has no control over these new added hyperlinks.
>
> Once again, so what? The author of the web page has no control over my
> choice of fonts, colors, graphics, sounds, etc. Why no wailing and
> complaining about that?
Once again, that's part of the original nature of the web. Changing the
font does not change the informational content of the page. Adding new
hyperlinks does change that content.
--
Woofbert: Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
email <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>
web http://www.infernosoft.com/woofbert
------------------------------
From: Fernandinande Le Mur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: soc.men,soc.singles,alt.fan.rush.limbaugh
Subject: AIDS: Jo'burg women want 'sperms not rubber'."
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 07:20:12 -0600
Reply-To: Fernandinande Le Mur
http://www.mg.co.za/mg/news/99jun2/15jun-aids.html
[...]
An African National Congress health desk document,
released the same day by Alfred Nzo, acknowledged
that there might be 60 000 infections.
It suggested abstinence, condom use, an end to
ostracism of the infected and an end to African taboos
about discussing sexuality.
There are now three million South Africans infected with
Aids, almost all of them black. Someone messed up.
I also found a clip from the Sowetan of May 30 1990. The
headline is: "Condoms are out: Jo'burg women want 'sperms not rubber'."
The reporter, Ali Mphaki, interviews women in Soweto and
begins: "Despite worldwide efforts to combat Aids, many
women give the thumbs down to the use of condoms. Many
contend the condom deprives them of the joy of sex and
some even say it should be abolished."
One - a teacher, for God's sake - says: "I want sperms not
rubber. If my boyfriend loves me, he should know that love
begins in bed. I would fire him if he wanted to used the
damn thing.''
Another says she never met a man who suggested one, but if
she did, "I will tell him not to come and waste my time.
Just imagine the whole night with rubber in you. It just
does not work."
Another woman says "Sperms have proteins and I need those
proteins." Another says "I only use plastic when it is
raining." And another: "It should be flesh to flesh."
The men he interviewed, he said, "dismissed the Aids scare as
hogwash" and said "only after seeing an Aids patient would
they resort to condoms". One assumes they have now seen an Aids
patient. One hopes the same survey today would get very different
answers. One hopes the attractive women whose photos accompany
the article are still alive.
------------------------------
From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:18:47 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > > Frankly, after turning it on (I have Windows XP here) I like it. I
> > > think you folks complaining about it simply haven't seen it in action
> > > and/or don't understand how it works and what it does.
> >
> > It keeps a list of words and URLs. When it encounters a word in a web
> > pages, it transforms that word into a hyperlink to the associated URL.
> > The list of words and URLs is determined by someone other than the web
> > site's author.
> >
> > What part do I have wrong?
>
> Nothing. That's exactly what it does. What I don't understand is why
> this is perceived as some "evil" plot.
>
> Actually, I'm hoping they fix it so *I* can add to the list of
> recognized words.
Ah, so you can't even add your own links, but are limited to the links
supplied by Microsofft.
The key to my objection is this: The end effect of this feature is that
for those people looking ay my web site through that browser...
Microsoft adds hyperlinks to my web pages.
I do not want Microsoft or anyone else adding hyperlinks to my web
pages. The mechanism (it' gets added by the browser instead of at my
server's copyof the page) is not in question. The end effect (the user
sees hyperlinks I didn't add) is.
A further objeciton is that Microsoft controls the added links. Who gave
them the authority to change my web sites? I certainly didn't.
> It's just a handy feature that is easily turned off (which is the
> default, BTW). Once you see it (there's no reason IE 6 for the Mac {OS
> X perhaps?} won't get this feature) I think your opinion of it will
> change.
I'm not guaranteed anywhere that this option will remain off by default.
I'm not guaranteed that this option will remain merely an option. I
suspect that this option will change inexorably to becoming a standard
feature.
--
Woofbert: Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
email <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>
web http://www.infernosoft.com/woofbert
------------------------------
From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux inheriting "DLL Hell"
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 20:20:09 -0500
"Zsolt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Erik Funkenbusch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Fri, 15 Jun 2001 16:16:44 -0500
presented us with the wisdom:
>
> > "Zsolt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I see you still don't get it...
> > > In Linux (and Unix in general) the version number is part of the name
and
> > it has
> > > always been like that - Windows just copied that in XP lagging behind
a
> > few
> > > decades as usual. So, installing the required specific versions does
_NOT_
> > > impact other applications (that require other specific versions) at
all!
> > > So, _you_ in XP might be just past that, but _we_ in Unix world have
never
> > > been there (in DLL hell)... sorry to disappoint you!
> >
> > That only goes so far.
> >
> > When dealing with common libraries this can cause many problems.
> >
> > Consider an application which uses 3 libraries. liba, libb, and libc.
The
> > application and libb require liba version 3, but libc requires liba
version
> > 2. When you link the libraries together, only one version of liba will
be
>
> Major logic violation... core dumped!
You seem to have a bad ALU.
> I'm sorry, but your example is flawed at its very base.
> How could an aplication require liba version 3 while it requires libc
which
> itself requires liba version 2 - that means you can _never_ compile and
run
> this application on any system in the world - so your example is very nice
> but it has a simple problem: it is impossible - never could happen....
My point is that the dependancies also have dependancies, and since the
dependancies are resolved based upon the application, if there is a
conflict, it will only use one of the versions of the library. How exactly
is an app supposed to know that the call to foo() in version 2 is not the
same as the call to foo() in version 3?
> > linked in, and that will be liba version 3, because the libraries
themselves
> > don't have linkage information. libc breaks because it expects liba
version
> > 2, and isn't compatible with version 3.
> >
> Each application (i.e. executable) contains the reference to _one_ exact
version
> of _each_ library it requires (was built with). If you have library
inconsistency at
> build time, then you have to resolve that, otherwise you won't get the app
to link.
> Once you get the app to link (have an executable), then you have a set of
consistent
> library reqirements. Simple, efficient and it has been working during the
past 20 years,
> unlike the DLL system (aka DLL hell)
Version 2 and version 3 of liba have the exact same functions in them, but
what they do is different, or their side effects are different. Because two
different objects (the applcation and the library) need two different
versions, libc will see the function calls loaded when version 3 is loaded
instead of loading version 2, which libb and the application would not be
compatible with.
Further, let's expand it out to subversions. You think every time a minor
bug is fixed they change the major version? No, that doesn't happen. Which
means you might very well have a version of libx which has the right major
version but is still not compatible with the applications that need an
earlier minor version of libx. This happened a lot with glibc IIRC. What
made it worse, was that glibc was built with a number of static libraries,
which could be different on different machines.
------------------------------
From: Woofbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More microsoft innovation
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 01:23:05 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> > If I wanted links to send people to differnt places in my page, I would
> > provide them. IF I dont, I dont want some third party sending people to
> > places I have no control over.
>
> But it's not about you. It's about the *user*. We don't expect you
> to anticipate *every* thing that I might be interested in.
Yes, it is about the web page author. There's no reason for all the
words in a web site to be linked to dictionary definitions, thesaurus
redefinitions, related news items, insider stock information, weather
reports ...
And there's even less reason for these links to be controlled by one
company.
> > I dont control the fonts on my page, within the limits of HTML. You can
> > change the font family, perhaps, but generally not the sizing or
> > placement. You can turn graphics on and off, but not change them. This
> > little ploy of micro$oft's is nothing more than changing other people's
> > intellectual property, and the ability to start sending omore and more
> > people to more and more micro$oft approved sites.
>
> So Apple, Yahoo, Cisco and the University of Michigan are "Microsoft
> approved sites"!!!!
And my site isn't. These links are click-magnets. I stand to lose
visitors because of Microsoft's distractions.
--
Woofbert: Chief Rocket Surgeon, Infernosoft
email <woofbert at infernosoft dot com>
web http://www.infernosoft.com/woofbert
------------------------------
From: "Paolo Ciambotti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux wins again....
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:31:36 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "drsquare"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Of course you have documented evidance to show these benchmarks as
>>flawed???
>>
>>Funny how winvocates will use any benchmark that shows MS software as
>>faster, no mater how flawed, as God's proof that MS software is better
>>(think mindcraft tests), but claim that benchmarks are worthless when
>>benchmarks show otherwise. The benchmarks match tests and production
>>rates that I have seen in the real world.
>
> Erm, I'm not a winvocate.
And I agree with your original assessment, subtle as it was.
Several years ago, my then-employer bought a system based almost entirely
on its published performance in a well-known benchmark only to see it
choke and die when it was put into production. We eventually replaced it
with the runner-up, and the new system had vast amounts of CPU idle time
to spare.
Rumor was that the first system had been "optimized" for the particular
benchmark we specified in the RFP. The moral of the story is that the
only realistic benchmark is your own real-world environment, and not some
easily predictable simulation.
------------------------------
From: "Paolo Ciambotti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: "This will not happen again," said the Microsoft spokesperson. "Period."
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:35:54 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Flacco"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I liked that one, and this one was amusing:
>
> " Portuguese security consultant Joao Gouveia likened the effect of the
> patch to a denial-of-service attack that overwhelms a Web server by
> flooding it with page requests. "If you install the patch, you can cause
> a self denial-of-service on the system," said Gouveia, who first
> notified Microsoft of the problem in late April. "
>
I can see the headline in the Register now....
"Microsoft Guilty of Self Abuse"
------------------------------
From: "Paolo Ciambotti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: the world thinks there is only windows. yahoo sucks.
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:37:17 -0700
In article <9ge452$8nil5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Nigel Feltham"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Strangely, most of the sites I have found which display a blank screen
> in either konqueror or mozilla work when viewed on Netscape 4.x on
> linux.
That's just scary.
------------------------------
From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux inheriting "DLL Hell"
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 20:29:00 -0500
"Richard Thrippleton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <A_uW6.15206$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Erik Funkenbusch
wrote:
> >"Zsolt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >> I see you still don't get it...
> >> In Linux (and Unix in general) the version number is part of the name
and
> >it has
> >> always been like that - Windows just copied that in XP lagging behind a
> >few
> >> decades as usual. So, installing the required specific versions does
_NOT_
> >> impact other applications (that require other specific versions) at
all!
> >> So, _you_ in XP might be just past that, but _we_ in Unix world have
never
> >> been there (in DLL hell)... sorry to disappoint you!
> >
> >That only goes so far.
> >
> >When dealing with common libraries this can cause many problems.
> >
> >Consider an application which uses 3 libraries. liba, libb, and libc.
The
> >application and libb require liba version 3, but libc requires liba
version
> >2. When you link the libraries together, only one version of liba will
be
> >linked in, and that will be liba version 3, because the libraries
themselves
> >don't have linkage information. libc breaks because it expects liba
version
> >2, and isn't compatible with version 3.
> You fail to see the point. In unix these libraries would be called
> liba.so.2, liba.so.3 etc. So the older versions would be there when
> necessary.
That's not the point. Only one version of the library can be loaded into
memory (well, actually, more than one can, but only one will get called by
the application).
The application depends on version 3, so it loads version 3. libc requires
version 2, but even if version 2 was loaded, it would still call function
foo() from version 3.
------------------------------
From: "Erik Funkenbusch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: More micro$oft "customer service"
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 20:32:00 -0500
"Woofbert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, macman
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > Macman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > PLEASE GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULL---No one has ever suggested
> > > > that
> > > > it goes through Microsoft's servers.
> > > >
> > > > But Microsoft's software does change the structure of the web page
by
> > > > adding hyperlinks that the author never intended. Microsoft is
> > > > clearly
> > > > involved.
> > >
> > > PLEASE GET THIS THROUGH *YOUR* THICK SKULL--- I can make more
> > > "structural changes" to a page by changing fonts, colors, turning off
> > > graphics and sounds. Hell, I can use a text-only browser. Is the
> > > author of my text-only browser involved in a copyright issue?
> >
> > NONE of your examples changes the content of the page -- or adds
> > hyperlinks. This is something new.
>
> They look like hyperlinks. They act like hyperinks. They are...
Actually, they don't look like hyperlinks, nor do they act like them. When
I hover over a hyperlink, it doesn't give me a button to press to bring up a
new window with the link in it.
------------------------------
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can send mail to the entire list by posting to comp.os.linux.advocacy.
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
End of Linux-Advocacy Digest
******************************
