On Mon, 2011-10-17 at 16:48 +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > Hard enforcement is very much better than papering over because it makes
> > the individual developer instantly aware that he's got a problem.
> 
> Not always
> 
> If you do weird container crap with timers than app authors will simply
> point out that the weird container crap is buggy as it works properly in
> a normal environment.

Oh agreed. I never said the hard enforcement would/should rely on
container crap. I'm very much in favour of a machine that's fully
functional with a CGROUP=n kernel, thank you very much.

Sadly a number of (userspace) wankers (some included on this thread)
seem hell bent on making that impossible.
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