Ok, I've now mangled the whole archive at http://eca.cx/lad - new messages are mangled before archiving. We should all thank Paul Winkler for coding the mangler! Ok, everyone happy now? Btw; I've sent numerous subscription requests for adding [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the list, but so far with no luck. -- Kai Vehmanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -------- CS, University of Turku, Finland . http://www.wakkanet.fi/ecasound/ - linux multitrack audio processing . http://www.wakkanet.fi/sculpscape/ - ambient-idm-rock-... mp3/ra/wav