Dave, if you are willing to compile yet another LADSPA host: I have uploaded the current status of my ladspaToy plugin host to: http://home.t-online.de/home/pdq808/ Not very useful for serious work, but a quick way to test LADSPA plugins. Accepts mono and stereo plugins, comes with a simple GUI, respects logarithmic and sample rate hints. It also includes a limiter plugin with very large dynamic range to avoid hard clipping of the output and a meter with overload indicators. Comparing VST on windows and LADSPA on my linux box, I agree that it is much easier to operate LADSPA plugins with "wrong" parameters. On the other hand, with freedom comes responsibility and you can have lots of fun with just a noise generator or simple oscilator and a couple of plugins with extreme parameters. Minimal tekkno, sort of. Regards, Reiner