here's some fun piece about the lamer who set up this spam-bot against lad. i turned the problem over to his postmaster, which he seemed to have taken personally :) Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > > Twinkles wrote: > > > > On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 08:55:14PM +0100, Jörn Nettingsmeier wrote: > > > dear postmaster ! > > > > Thank you for your email to my postmaster. I have a few pertinent > > suggestions for the mailing list which I hope you will pass on to the > > owner. > > > > - Users only take action when their requests go unanswered for long > > periods of time. Ask the list admin to answer email instead of ignoring > > it > > 1) the admin of this list does his job in his free time. > 2) it is your responsibility to keep the subscription request, in > which you can find the cancelling routine. > 3) if you have problems, or this routine fails, this mail gives the > hint to write to owner-linux-audio-dev. > 4) if for some reason the owner fails to respond, you can post a > POLITE message to the list asking for help. like "[OT] need help to > unsubscribe". ever thought about that ? > 5) under FUCKING NO CIRCUMSTANCES IS IT ACCEPTABLE TO SPAM HUNDREDS > OF USERS WOLRDWIDE WITH YOUR LITTLE PROBLEM. yes, i'm shouting. > this is mail abuse, and i will report this to the postmaster in > charge. it's not my job to educate users of other systems about very > basic conduct on the net. > > > - Place unsubscribe instructions as a signature on every email. > > Alternatively, place an X-unsubscribe and an X-website header in each > > email. > > might be a helpful suggestion; even more so if you hadn't annoyed > the shit out of everybody before. > > > - If you see messages bouncing to the list over and over, find out why > > if you cause a bounce, it's your responsibility to fix it. having > mail bounce back to lists out of sheer cluelessness is a sad thing > we'll have to live with, but deliberately setting up a bouce bot > just because one is not able to unsubscribe is not worthy of beings > equipped with a neocortex. > > > - Instead of "dobbing" to a postmaster, contact the user first to see what > > the real problem is > > my dictionary does not define "dobber" (my native language is > german), and the online webster says it's a small water bird. not > very likely. from the context, i can guess it means "cowardly taking > something over to authorities instead of dealing with the offending > person directly." > > well, normally i don't feel obliged to deal with people who > blackmail me. having earned your disrespect, well, i guess i can > take that. > you sure have mine. -- Jörn Nettingsmeier home://Kurfürstenstr.49.45138.Essen.Germany phone://+49.201.491621 http://www.folkwang.uni-essen.de/~nettings/