On Wednesday 24 June 2009, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: >On Wed, 2009-06-24 at 10:33 +0700, Patrick Shirkey wrote: >> On 06/24/2009 10:24 AM, Fernando Lopez-Lezcano wrote: >> > On Tue, 2009-06-23 at 18:44 -0400, Paul Davis wrote: >> > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 6:19 PM, Fernando >> > > >> > > Lopez-Lezcano<[email protected]> wrote: >> > > > see here for an interesting entry: >> > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=442959 >> > > >> > > that is hilarious :) >> > >> > Hmmm, well, not really. It means he has been working on this for a >> > while. It is too bad that he only made lad aware of it after it was >> > "ready to go"... >> >> It's not something that can be directly pinned on Lennart though. It's >> not exactly empowering to have to fight for every inch before the work >> is started. > >Yep, I agree, it does not speak very well of lad. I'm not sure what >would have happened if he had visited lad earlier. It _could_ have been, >for example, an invitation to work on the project, not necessary a >request for open, scathing and insulting responses :-) On the other hand >design by committee has usually little chance of success. > >There has obviously been discussions on this, just not here (lkml for >once - I stopped merely scanning it a while back, impossible to keep >up). > >IMO I would probably not have lasted as long as he did in this thread. >Too many type and fire responses - as you mention below - with little >thought or research (I'm guilty as well, of course). > >On the other hand he is a member of the lkml list and posts there, and >lkml is not the kindest of environments. Maybe he expected something >different of lad. > >> Maybe he wanted to conserve his mental energy for the actual code and >> save the fight for a time when he could handle the load... >> >> It's becoming a recurring theme round here, maybe it has always been >> this way? It seems to me that it's become more so in the past few >> years. > >Maybe so. Or maybe we are (at least the older ones) in the slow process >of "nothing like the old times" regression :-) I think that in a smaller >community it is harder to not know somebody, specially in the case of >lad after the first LAD Conference, and if you know somebody personally >it is harder to (ab)use sarcasm or outright be insulting, email is >faceless. > >> Lest we recall the eruption over getting lv2 into reactor or whatever >> that app was. >> >> Maybe it's because we are all that much busier these days that it's >> harder to find the time to edit our responses? > >Or maybe it is that the community has gotten bigger. Or both. I know I'm >busier but that has been a constant for quite a while so it can't be :-) > >There may be a degree of anger as well that is directed to whoever stirs >things a bit. I also have that, but I try to not let that influence my >posts too much. Don't know how successfully. > >-- Fernando
A sane voice, and an good deduction. Better said than I could, thanks Fernando. -- Cheers, Gene "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) The NRA is offering FREE Associate memberships to anyone who wants them. <https://www.nrahq.org/nrabonus/accept-membership.asp> No problem is insoluble. -- Dr. Janet Wallace, "The Deadly Years", stardate 3479.4 _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
