*???* Pulseaudio, 64-bit and JACK are a strange issue. I'm using 64-bit, the proprietary flash for 64-bit and I can run JACK, use audio software, e.g. Qtractor and at the same time watch YouTube etc.. Pulseaudio is not installed. Am I missing something, because I don't have Pulseaudio?
Ralf Patrick Shirkey wrote: > > On 08/11/2009 08:59 AM, Nick Copeland wrote: >> The following is all opinion which I think is what was requested: >> >> > Here's an updated list of the possible official recommendations for >> discussion: >> >> We should not really be recommending anything and 'official' makes it >> sound rather orchestrated. We should be selling the benefits of the >> solution. If any attempt is made to mandate then we are going to run >> into reasonable resistance from both the apps and platform to any >> change as what is being proposed here increases compexity and >> abstraction of the audio interface which in anybodies book is a bad >> thing. > > > > Ok, so from what you are saying there is nothing particularly wrong > that the recommendations below would solve for a large enough number > of people as to make it worth suggesting any of them at all? I don't > think that I need to justify why the recommendations are offered but > if they are really not to be considered necessary then that is a > different story. > > The list below is simply attempting to solve as elegantly as possible > the real usability issues that currently crop up for a "normal" user > experience on 64 bit with the additional suggestion for the kernel > config as people were wondering how to get extended memory on a 32 bit > platform. I'm not sure if that last one is relevant myself but it was > suggested so it's on the list of suggestions to be considered. > > > > Here's an additional possible recommendation that occurred to me last > night. > > - If using skype consider purchasing a usb phone and using that as the > audio interface instead of relying on the onboard sound device as it > will probably make your life easier. > > > > > > Patrick Shirkey > Boost Hardware Ltd > > > > >> >> - A distribution should attempt to run jack as the default audio >> server and should attempt to make the process pf starting jack easy >> for a non technical user. >> >> Why should a distribution do this? There are lots of reasons why they >> shouldn't. >> >> - Pulseaudio should attempt to connect to jack by default and fall >> back to the alsa layer if jack is not running. >> >> Why should pulse audio do this? There are lots of reasons why it >> shouldn't. >> >> - Closed source binaries such as those provided by companies like >> Adobe, Skype and Real Networks should provide flexibility for >> changing the audio library path and not be hardcoded to /usr/lib/ >> >> Why should they do this? Skype has 400M users, Adobe at least double >> that. Why should they make consideration for perhaps a small number >> of hundreds of users: those that want Linux, and Audio, and 64bit? >> You are welcome to change the figure of 'hundreds' into 'thousands' >> but nowhere on earth does it reach anything like the number of Skype >> users on 'another' platform. What are we offering Skype by way of a >> carrot to make them even consider this? You have to put the request >> into the perspective of it just being yet another request made of >> them and all of the other requests leading to potential financial >> benefits to their organisation. All Linux can offer Skype is a number >> of paying subscribers, and those that fit this specific demand are >> very small. >> >> - For 32 Bit systems with memory of more than 8GB we recommend >> enabling CONFIG_X86_PAE in the kerneld >> >> The limit is theoretically 4G. Its a lot lower on pretty much all >> motherboards. If we put in any demands like this one it will sound >> like we have no idea about what we are talking about. >> >> - For a 64 bit desktop system please ensure the 32 bit libraries for >> alsa, jack and pulseaudio are installed by default. >> >> Is this relevant? Are you asking for just the 32 bit libraries? Both >> of them? >> >> >> If somebody put this proposal in front of me, personally, I would not >> give it the time of day. There is no justification, no benefit being >> offered, and no real necessity to do it. There is nothing compelling. >> >> Nick. >> Again, this was all opinion. The goal is a good one, the means don't >> quite seem to rise up to it. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Share your memories online with anyone you want anyone you want. >> <http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/products/photos-share.aspx?tab=1> _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.linuxaudio.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
