rosea grammostola wrote: > Hi, > > > How to do automation on Linux when you work the 'modular way' and how is > the quality of those features on Linux at the moment? That question came > up and was followed by a quick research. There are things possible or > promising in the area, but we got some weak areas here also. > > Non-daw and non-mixer seems to be very promising. You can make 'cv > tracks' or automation tracks in non-daw (when you add controls), draw > an automation line and connect that to an strip to automation for gain > (and LADSPA). DSSI is lacking here, but it is 'planned'. LV2 is not very > popular in the non project, so it seems it will not be possible to > automate LV2 plugin parameters, unless I miss something or an developers > step in and build LV2 support into non-mixer. (It would be a missed > chance imo if LV2 isn't supported here...) >
Rui's next step for Qtractor is automation. > But what to do when the softsynth is not an plugin, but an standalone > application, like phasex and zynaddsubfx/yoshimi? You can use an midi > sequencer to control the synth via sending midi cc messages. > > Let me quote some quick (!) test results: > > "My quick test shows that *Muse* can display cc's on the piano roll, but > only seems to allow me to edit them in the event list. Not very pratical. > *Non-sequencer* only offers the event list. > *Non-Daw* allows me to add lots of controls, and edit them happily on > the timeline, but it only outputs them as "CV", which means I'd need a > pd patch or similar to convert them into midi cc's. > I'll have a look at Rosegarden, once it's finished installing." > Qtractor has got an event window and it's possible to edit "and edit by drawing" in another window. This are features Rui programmed a short while ago. > "*Rosegarden *could work, but apart from being bloated, it is also > rather complicated to add automation: > Draw event > Open in Martrix editor > Then under "View" I can add a controller, but for some reason only a > select few. > This controller can then be edited by right-clicking and adding > controller line. > > I tried *Seq24*, but it keeps crashing on me. At least it allowed me to > choose a midi CC by number. > > Damn, this should be a lot easier. Even the ancient Cakewalk was > lightyears better. > _I think we have a great opportunity here for some developer to make the > world a better place. Simply make *non-daw's* timeline controllers > output midi CCs"_ > > > "*QTractor* actually works very well, only problem is it doesn't have a > curve-drawing feature, so you need to write lots of little automation > points. This isn't true, see above. If you need help to compile Qtractor from svn, ask me off-list. I'll help you. > But it lets you select from all possible midi CCs. Just select > "controller" in the midi clip editor, where it normally says "note" (or > similar) > > Then of course connect the midi output to your softsynth, and remember > to define what synth knob is controlled by what CC (the midi mapping) in > the synth." > > "it looks like *Dino *has a nice curve editor." > > "Midi mapping in *Phasex* and *AMS* seems to be ok. > And here is the *Zynaddsubfx *Midi implementation (seriously lacking, if > you ask me): > http://zynaddsubfx.sourceforge.net/doc_3.html > " > > * So it looks like Qtractor is pretty good to do the job, all though > it misses the nice curve editor like Dino has, for automation with > external synths. > Please subscribe to the Qtractor devel mailing list. More people are needed on that list. > * Zynaddsubfx needs improvements when it comes to midi mapping. > * A big improvement would be to make *non-daw's* timeline > controllers output midi CCs > > > Other questions are: "Is it possible atm to automate LV2 plugins in a > host (lv2rack) and DSSI (ghostess)?" > > > See this post as sort of feedback from some Linux audio users. Maybe it > can bring us to some improvements... > > Thanks, > > \r > > > > ps. see also thread here: http://linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2535 > I've got no time to read it. Ralf _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
