On 06/07/2010 05:26 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote: > >> On 06/06/2010 12:33 AM, Geoff Beasley wrote: >>> On 06/06/2010 04:58 AM, Patrick Shirkey wrote: >>>> >>>> I like this idea and I can see a place for it at Linuxaudio.org. A >>>> centralised feature/bug/infrastructure tracker. >> >> If someone wants to step forward, hosting it under the umbrella (and on >> the server) of linuxaudio.org will be the least issue. >> >>>> I think the hardest part will be to isolate the most important >>>> information >>>> and present it in a very obvious way. This could easily get left high >>>> and >>>> dry by making the system too complex for the info that is being >>>> aggregated. >> >> Bug-tracking always requires user & developer interaction (confirm, >> reproduce, comment..). Merly aggregating or collecting information won't >> do much good. >> > > The feeds provide a link through to the original post so that provides a > way back for contributors and developers. >
Yeah, but only one at a time; this is not a "meta tracker". >> OTOH I really like the idea to improve interoperability between apps. >> >>>> A way to start the system could be to collate the info using rss feeds >>>> from the various bug trackers that are already in use. >> >> Testing this idea: http://planet.linuxaudio.org/bugs/ >> currently collects [only] ardour, jack & qtractor tracker's feeds. >> Imagine how this would look with over 50 projects. I doubt it would be >> very useful. But things could be improved by using more elaborate >> RSS/Atom feed queries.. >> >> Anyway, this is a one-way system. Users will need to use >> upstream-trackers to submit information. This somehow undermines the >> idea of providing feedback for interop issues at a central location. >> >> The easiest way to supplement this would be a linux-audio-bugs >> email-list or just re-use this list. >> > > The bugs feeds is a good start. Did you just set that page up? yes; well we have this planet for a few months now (Nov 2009). see http://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/planet Making this 2nd planet with feeds from trackers took less than 5 mins. It's rather a quick experiment to see if something like this can be useful. > I don't like the idea of flooding this list with bug reports. A new list > is an option using the feeds from the bugs page as data. I meant a list for discussion and commenting on bugs, not for auto-posting/forwarding new bug request there. > But that is > really just replicating existing functionality. A more productive approach > is to improve on the bugs page now that it exists. For example an "add" / > "submit" new feed button/link would be helpful. There's a 'tiny' link labeled "FAQ & Subscribe" in the bar on the right. I don't think automating the submit/add system is a good idea; Marc, Ico & me are are quite quick filtering SPAM and editing the planetplanet config-file. We'll need to update the wiki-page though and improve the HTML-template for "planet bug". Anyway so far it's just an experiment, not a maintained service. >>> linuxaudio.org would indeed be a good place for such a tracker, and it >>> is indeed a good idea but for the issue of 'updatedness' ie; it would >>> need quite some effort to remain up-to-date and therefore relevant and >>> useful. If it slipped behind it could in fact have the opposite effect. >>> who would be prepared to undertake such a burden? it would need to be >>> completely automated as the amount of info could be quite substantial >>> quite quickly... seems to me the devil is in the detail. >> >> Indeed. Implementing a centralized cross-project bug & feature tracker >> - possibly with bounties - can become quite complex; not to mention it >> requires quite some effort to maintain it. >> >> Please proof me wrong. It'd be a great thing to have. >> > > I think you are correct. The trick is figuring out how to move the concept > forward without getting bogged down in minor details. > let's keep brainstorming. robin _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
