On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 09:56 +0200, Arnold Krille wrote: > On Thursday 15 July 2010 01:14:45 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-07-15 at 00:46 +0200, [email protected] wrote: > > > Apart from that, it remains to be seen if *real* timing errors of > > > +/- 2 ms do 'destroy the groove'. To test this, make the same > > > recording > > > > > > - without jitter, > > > - with 1 ms jitter, > > > - with 2 ms jitter, > > > - with 3 ms jitter. > > > > > > and check if listeners are able to identify which is which, > > > or at least to put them into order. > > I know very gifted musicians who do like me and they always 'preach' > > that I should stop using modern computers and I don't know much averaged > > people. So the listeners in my flat for sure would be able to hear even > > failure that I'm unable to hear. > > You really should do that test first before speculating about the outcome and > your audience. > > You would expect Audiophiles to spot the "super sounding" denon cables by > listening, right? Yet a blind test showed the opposite. The test was to > identify which audio take was played with denon-cables, el-cheapo cables from > walmart and a bended cloth-hanger. If they where as good as they claimed, the > denon-cable should get hits with probability significantly better then 1/3, > otherwise its just luck. > Guess what the outcome was: There was a significant hit: But they spotted the > cloth-hanger as the denon-cable. Thats what real experts do... > > Do the listening test with as many people as possible and then show the > results. And only afterwards start the speculations what the reason and the > effects might be. (Thats called science btw.) > > Have fun, > > Arnold
Btw. I tested my own music. First I played inside songs from other people a Ralf-mastering of my own music. Most people didn't like my song. Some weeks later I played the same song inside other songs from other people by a loudness-war-mastering. Most people liked the song. Playing the same song two times can't be called heavy rotation, hence they were not accustomed to my song, but they need a bad mastering to be fine with this song. A blind study is useless regarding to musical issues. Or do you think we should start mixing music optimised to loudness, because tests show that the audience prefers music without dynamic? ;) Ralf _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
