On 07/31/2010 04:40 AM, "Bearcat M. Şandor" wrote:
Folks,

I'm a recovering audiophile.

:-]

I have read that speakers in an ambisonic set up should be "full range".
I'd like to set up a ambisonic speaker system (8 channel to start), and
the prospect of 8 full range channels is daunting.  Since it seems they
would be stand or wall mounted (at least some of them) that means
monitors and subwoofers. Since all channels must be the same, that means
8 subwoofers...somewhere in the room.

So what does "full range" mean usually and what does it mean in terms of
talk on this list?

first, as initial shock therapy to the (ex-?) audiophile: ambisonics is not full-range in the usual sense. its localisation mechanism only works in a very limited frequency range. the idea is to use that small range to produce such good cues to the brain that it conveniently ignores that the rest is garbage ;) i'm taking localisation only - timbre reproduction must of course happen from 20 to 20k...

if you want eight speakers, that would fix you up for up to third order. since i assume you're not much into computer-generated music (which would provide some source material), and since i know that higher-than 1st-order recordings are rare (because i've personally made at least 1% of them...), it could make sense to go for 6 speakers initially. very good for first-order replay, very good for "super-stereo", easily accommodates 5.1 content with only minor placement errors, easier to place, and 25% cheaper. unless you choose a very exotic brand and model, it should be no problem to extend this setup to eight or more later.

it's no problem (and in fact customary) to use subwoofers with ambisonics for low-range extension. you can either forego localisation in that band and just use a mono sub (perfectly ok), use 2 and have some l/r signal in ithem, or you can use 4 subs in the corners of the room and drive them with a special horizontal decode. that's pretty awesome, because you can do a decode such that one speaker pushes while the opposite speaker pulls. of course that wastes quite some amp power, but it makes your room effectively infinite volume, which means you can fit very long waves into it without weird effects, and you will win a nice trouser-flapping effect without boominess and that obnoxious pressure on the ears.

if you're going to use ambdec for decoding, i can show you how to create two separate configurations for the full-range speakers and the subs, and to combine them into a single matrix (that's assuming that the subs themselves do their own low-pass filtering - if not, you'd need to do that with a plugin, but that means you will have to use another application in addition to ambdec).

best,

jörn


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