On 20 November 2011 13:58, Paul Davis <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Neil C Smith <[email protected]> wrote: >> Well, as a Java dev I felt the need to interject! :-) >> >> iPhone is still a problem, but desktop is easy - just ship with an embedded >> JVM in the same way you embed webkit. > > and therein lies the difference to: > > "visit http://your.domain.whatever/myCoolWebApp"; <= ... and it runs! > > no install, no visible download. not huge, but as the browser gets to > be a more and more capable platform, probably significant.
I was responding more in the context of people earlier talking about embedding webkit for GUI's, not in the context of web / browser apps. Shipping an embedded JVM could mean that an application using Java could be shipped, cross-platform in the same way as any other native, installed software. And I personally don't see installed software going anywhere any time soon, particularly given the rising prevalence of the app store model. Browser platforms are definitely starting to get more capable, but doesn't a lot of the API mentioned at the beginning of this thread rely on native code underneath. I'm a little wary of this building block approach, though at least it is extensible - quite how much audio code would you want to write in JavaScript, and how much could you actually achieve in real-time? At the moment it would be possible to write the entire audio architecture and extensions in Java - one cross-platform code base running at near-native speed and low latency. I've no doubt JavaScript will get there, and I think it will be very interesting when it does. Mind you, I'm also slightly wary of this obsession with turning the browser into another OS - maybe I'm turning into an old fuddy-duddy! :-) Best wishes, Neil -- Neil C Smith Artist : Technologist : Adviser http://neilcsmith.net _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
