On Tue, 2014-01-21 at 09:44 +0100, [email protected] wrote: > Filipe Coelho: > > I think we should stop assuming releasing source code is enough. > > I take the stand that releasing source code is enought.
+1 Developers are free to provide packages and they are free to include the needed dependencies. Take a look at the file system hierarchy standard regarding /opt. Btw. AFAIK there are two projects working at a new file system hierarchy to make it easier to install software, what ever this means. Instead of using Debian and all the other named distros users are free to install a modern distro that is more stable than those oldish distros and anyway more up to date and especially not splitting into several packages. Such a distro might provide an easy to understand package management too. How about Arch Linux? > >is getting more user friendly, > No, linux-at-large is more and more getting in the way of the local > administrator, forcing one to install more and more stuff that might > not be wanted, with big userspace things like gnome making distruptive > changes -- that is not user friendliness. +1 More and more optional dependencies become hard dependencies. People care about disc space and want split packages, so that they aren't forced to install the headers, but it nowadays is ok to install tons of packages that aren't needed and that not only need much disc space, but that could serious issues, such as pulseaudio and gvfs. In the early days pulseaudio tend to stop working audio on many machines and gvfs still today damages "green" drives. Very alarming is that fast 3D graphics become requirements and that people want the same kind of "desktop" environments they use for their smartphones and tablet PCs for the desktop too. Sorry, a little bit OT. Some developers already build packages. Some distros, e.g. Arch at least provide much more good multimedia software than e.g. Debian, but even for Debian users could install third party repositories to get rid of many issues. Building from source does work since many years even for completely inexperienced users. _______________________________________________ Linux-audio-dev mailing list [email protected] http://lists.linuxaudio.org/listinfo/linux-audio-dev
