On Tue, 21 Jul 2015, Thomas Vecchione wrote:

Related to this topic, I would recommend reading through this...
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/theatre-sound-list/WbysqMHs6iw

AVB isn't dead no, but it certainly isn't close to dominant at this point, at
least on my side of the pond.  It may be a different situation on the other 
side,
no idea.  That being said, it has a very uphill battle to displace Dante at this
point on my side of the pond and get decent usage professionally.

You are exactly right. However, for most of us, it is a matter of what can work with Linux and has open drivers. Right now nothing. The chances of some Dante box having a linux OS in it is probably quite high, but I can't even buy a closed version at this point (though I hear there are some around). And the HW to go with such a driver is not cheap (at least not cheap enough for me to buy when it may never work).

Then again if AES67 interoperability comes into play, then is may be a moot 
point
as ideally you would be able to communicate between the two protocols.

AES67 right now is the same. There are no Linux drivers and none in the works so far as I know. There are some audio cards that are basically AES67 ends, but again they are not cheap.

AVB is far from dominant for sure, but there is an open driver (well sort of... a group of bits that can be put together to make things work is more like it) in the works. It does require some special HW, but the gist of the thread is that the cost of that HW has come within reach. In other words, the average experimenter with no backing can start to tinker.

There is an option to still make use of AVB equipment if one can't make this work, not cheap ($600) but similar to a USB AI with the same feature set that will act as either a USB (USB2.0 compliant it says) AI with AVB bridging or as an AVB AI. SO not a loss if things don't go well or not unusable while working on things. The internals can be controled via a web browser on the avb port even with no AVB stuff attached.

Along with this, parts of the linux AVB driver and HW needed (the NIC for example) will be usable for AES67 development if someone chooses to do that.

So AVB development may not seem like the best way to go, but right now it is the only way that at least seems open and in the end seems to also have the edge quality wise (perhaps that is debatable... I won't bother arguing either way).

So for me, it is about accessability. I am a hobbiest (at this point anyway) and Dante/AES67/Ravenna are out of my reach. AVB seems to have entered into that accessable place.

One thing I will say is that Dante and AVB can coexist on the same network, it should not be very hard to make a box with only one NIC that can bridge the two... and make whatever in on one protocol look like it is on the other.

--
Len Ovens
www.ovenwerks.net
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