> Pieter wrote:
> 
> >--cut---
> >
> >>*Are* any of creative's competitors releasing specs for chips that do
> >>advanced effects?  I understand RME and MidiMan have been quite open,
> >>but they use FPGA chips, and am I right in thinking those are
> >>off-the-shelf chips with already open specs?
> >>
> >
> >FPGA (= 'Field Programmable Gate Array') chips are indeed open 
> spec (well,
> >most of them). But the problem is that the chip specs are no 
> source of info
> >for writing drivers. Let me explain a little about FPGA:
> >
> It's worse than that.  To program the FPGA you have to take the netlist 
> from your design program and then create a chip-specific bit sequence. 
>  How this is done is secret.  So you can't program any reasonably 
> up-to-date FPGAs with open-source software.  I have hammered on the 
> doors of many manufactueres asking "how does keeping this bit sequence 
> secret help you sell more FPGAs?" but the answer is a long silence.
> 

I didn't know it was that bad. I did get a course in FPGA programming,
but as we had to use XilinX foundation manager, I didn't experience 
that problem. Anyway, I was just trying to point out that even if you
get the (programming) specs of the FPGA, they wouldn't be usefull if
you don't know how RME used it (eg: what pins are PCI). Could be hard
to figure it out. And you would have to rewrite 'firmware', which was 
not the intention.

PP 

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