On Wed, 2004-01-21 at 11:10, Daniel James wrote: > > > It's true that I did initiate the arrangement whereby the Linux > > > audio community gets representation at a major UK audio industry > > > trade show, > > > > Suddenly you're now speaking as the representative of the whole > > Linux audio community. > > No - a consortium can only represent its members.
"Linux audio community gets representation..." > > > The only true > > representatives of the Linux Audio community are the Linux Audio > > Developers. > > By which you mean members of a mailing list, or the actual developers > doing the work? This may come as a surprise to you, but many libre > software developers admit that they need help to promote their > software - either because they don't have the time, experience of > working with the media or public speaking skills. Then let's focus on software and its developers. > > > > The organisers have agreed > > > to give us the stand at cost, which they didn't have to do. > > > > So how is that different from LinuxTag or ZKM? > > If you read up on the event you'll see it is specifically about audio > and music technology, which LinuxTag is not. Running this kind of > stand at a Linux event would be 'preaching to the converted'. As for > ZKM, that is a developer event, not really an event for users who > don't even know what Linux is yet. > > > The only thing we should promote right now are > > the Linux Audio applications. > > er... that's what we are doing. > > > Companies have resources to promote > > themselves. > > I don't think you appreciate the situation with regard to the small > companies that are funding free software development, while trying to > make a living for developers at the same time. They are not rich. > Even combined, their resources are tiny compared to the proprietary > software companies. > > > And it makes no sense to promote Linux Audio Users at > > such event. > > What have you got against users? Is it because I'm a user rather than > a developer? > > > The problem is - Frank, Joern, Matthias were doing a great job > > organising events and helping the Linux Audio Developers to promote > > their open source Linux Audio applications. > > Agreed - but only events in Germany as far as I know. There are other > countries too. http://www.metadecks.org/events/lca2004/ > > > They never called > > themselves the directors of LAD. > > Perhaps that's because a mailing list is not an organisation. If they > had set up an organisation and called themselves directors of it, I > don't think anyone would have complained. > > > I see ZKM as a very important event simply because it's growing > > into a larger conference, an event solely aimed at Linux Audio, an > > event that will be aimed at both Linux Audio Developers and Linux > > Audio Users this year. A place where the developers, journalists > > and music industry can meet each other. > > As long as they a) know the event exists and b) are sufficiently > interested to travel to Germany for it. http://www.metadecks.org/events/lca2004/ > > > I think such an event is much more important than any stand. > > Yes - but we're aiming our effort at a very different audience. Could you explain? > > I urge you again to withhold the establishing of any consortium > > Already done. Already done witholding? > > > Regarding the consortium list. > > The old thread is gone. Was there anything you should hide? > > No. It was only a temporary list. > > > I > > believe that another private mailing list with the old thread still > > exists. > > You sound paranoid. http://lists.linuxaudio.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/consortium-p Marek
