On Tuesday 21 Feb 2006 22:30, Dave Robillard wrote: > On Tue, 2006-21-02 at 20:36 +0000, Chris Cannam wrote: > > On Tuesday 21 Feb 2006 20:12, Dave Robillard wrote: > > > On Tue, 2006-21-02 at 15:05 +0000, Chris Cannam wrote: > > > > If my free software work puts a company or its developers out of > > > > work, then that's a problem for my conscience. It's not a victory > > > > for free software. > > > > > > Yes it is. > > > > No, the fact of people having been put out of work is not itself a > > victory for anyone. > > Straw man. I never said it was an overall win, just a win for free > software.
Right, and I said it wasn't. That's what you replied to. No straw man. Note though that I'm specifically talking about the failure of the proprietary company, not the success or popularity or quality of the free software alternative -- those good things, sure, celebrate them. It is subjective though, I admit. You could believe anything from "every time a proprietary software company goes out of business for any reason, that's a victory for free software" down. You can naturally argue that its being a victory doesn't depend on whether the people who caused it think that it is. But for my part, I think there is only victory if you think you're participating in competition. What's interesting is that I used this line of argument to explain my preference for "free software" over "open source" (because I think the term emphasises the positive, constructive and human nature of the work rather than an irrelevant businesslike cost/benefit angle) but the people arguing against me also appear to be on the "free software" side. Anyway, I've said more than enough. Chris
