----- Original Message -----
> I still detest the idea of tieing the audit namespace to the user
> namespace.  My NAK still stands on any such patches.
> 
> I'd think that disjoint namespaces (like networking) instead of
> hierarchical namespaces (like user) would be a lot easier to do.  My
> thoughts have always been about completely disjoint audit namespaces and
> I may have missed the nuance of some of your discussion because it
> didn't really dawn on me you seem to have always been discussing
> hierarchical audit namespace.
> 
> I'm wondering if we want/need both?

Would it be possible to avoid adding more dimensions to the namespace matrix?  
I appreciate that the flexibility allows a wide range of use cases, however it 
also makes reasoning about the security properties extremely difficult.

(If only there were a way to put the genie back to the bottle and have the 
kernel explicitly recognize something like "virt-like container" or 
"webhosting-like application isolation" as kernel-space concepts and objects...)
   Mirek

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