On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 01:20:20PM +0200, Brendan Hide wrote:
> On 2012/12/17 06:23 PM, Hugo Mills wrote:
> >On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 04:51:33PM +0100, Sebastien Luttringer wrote:
> >>Hello,
> snip
> >>I get the feeling that RAID1 only allow one disk removing. Which is more
> >>a RAID5 feature.
> >    The RAID-1 support in btrfs makes exactly two copies of each item
> >of data, so you can lose at most one disk from the array safely. Lose
> >any more, and you're likely to have lost data, as you've found out.
> >>I'm afraid Btrfs raid1 will not be working before the end of the world.
> >    It does work (as you demonstrated with the first disk being
> >removed) -- but just not as you thought it should. Now, you can argue
> >that "RAID-1" isn't a good name to use here, but there's no good name
> >in RAID terminology to describe what we actually have here.
> Technically, btrfs's "RAID1" implementation is much closer to RAID1E
> than traditional RAID1. See
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-standard_RAID_levels#RAID_1E or 
> http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/director/v5r2/index.jsp?topic=/serveraid_9.00/fqy0_craid1e.html
> 
> Perhaps a new name, as with ZFS, might be appropriate. RAID-Z and
> RAID-Z2, for example, could not adequately be described by any
> existing RAID terminology and, technically, RAID-Z still isn't a
> RAID in the classical sense.

   Yeah, we did have a naming scheme proposed, with combinations of
nCmSpP, where n is the number of copies held, m the number of stripes,
and p the number of parity stripes. So btrfs RAID-1 is 2C, RAID-5 on 5
disks would be 4S1P, and RAID-10 on 4 disks would be 2C2S. I'd prefer
to see that than some non-"standard" RAID-18KTHXBYE formulation.

   Plenty of room for shed-painting here, though.

   Hugo.

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