Liu Bo wrote on 2015/12/03 17:44 -0800:
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 06:56:09PM +0100, David Sterba wrote:
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 08:56:13PM +0800, Anand Jain wrote:
Btrfs-progs is a tool for the btrfs kernel and we hope latest btrfs-progs
be compatible w any set of older/newer kernels.

So far mkfs.btrfs and btrfs-convert sets the default features, for eg,
skinny-metadata even if the running kernel does not supports it, and
so the mount fails on the running.

So the default behaviour of mkfs will try to best guess the feature set
of currently running kernel. I think this is is the most common scenario
and justifies the change in default behaviours.

For the other cases I'd like to introduce some human-readable shortcuts
to the --features option. Eg. 'mkfs.btrfs -O compat-3.2' will pick all
options supported by the unpatched mainline kernel of version 3.2. This
would be present for all version, regardless if there was a change in the
options or not.

Similarly for convenience, add 'running' that would pick the options
from running kernel but will be explicit.

A remaining option should override the 'running' behaviour and pick the
latest mkfs options. Naming it 'defaults' sounds a bit ambiguous so the
name is yet to be determined.

Here in this set of patches will make sure the progs understands the
kernel supported features.

So in this patch, checks if sysfs tells whether the feature is
supported if not, then it will relay on static kernel version which
provided that feature (skinny-metadata here in this example), next
if for some reason the running kernel does not provide the kernel
version, then it will fall back to the original method to enable
the feature with a hope that kernel will support it.

Also the last patch adds a warning when we fail to read either
sysfs features or the running kernel version.

Your patchset is a good start, the additional options I've described can
be added on top of that. We might need to switch the version
representation from string to KERNEL_VERSION but that's an
implementation detail.

Depending on sysfs is stable but depending on kernel version may be not,
we may have a distro kernel which backports some incompat features from
upstream, then we have to decide based on sysfs interface.

+1.

Although sysfs does not always show up even for supported kernel, e.g btrfs modules is not loaded after boot.
So we need to consider twice before choosing a fallback method.


However, this brings another problems, for very old kernels, they don't
have sysfs, do you have any suggestions for that?

Other fs, like xfs/ext* doesn't even have sysfs feature interface, only release announcement mentioning default behavior change.
And I don't see many users complaining about it.

Here is the example of xfsprogs changed its default feature recently:
In 10th, June, 2015, xfsprogs v3.2.3 is released, with new default feature of enabling CRC for fs.
The first supported kernel is 3.15, which is release in 8th Jun, 2014.
Almost one year ago.

On the other hand, the sysfs feature is introduced at the end of year 2013.
It's already over 2 years.

So just forgot the extra minor case of super old kernel would be good enough.

Thanks,
Qu


Thanks,

-liubo

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