hi sorry for ranting on and on i wish all spammers had a communal neck so i could choke em :). if there is any justice, they will suffer for their misdeeds some day, and for an unending period of time. i've realized its not the list's fault if some unscrupulous spammer sweeps the list for addresses. so, sorry for implying it was. spam.die.die.die cheers, leon -- __ _ Leon Breedt -o) / / (_)__ __ ____ __ System Administrator /\\/ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] _\_v____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ Linux: Oh no, I think my 64-bit uptime variable just overflowed