It would be fanstastic if someone could do something about this. I have tried now on two occasions, but it's still happening... What you see below is what happens when an email address in a mailing list goes bad for some reason, and there's a brain-dead MTA at the recipieent end dealing with the problem. (BTW, no prizes for guessing what brand of mail server is being used at that end). Every time anyone posts a message into this mailing list, they will inevitably get one of these aimless and stupid messages bounced back at them. What is almost certainly happening here is that someone who was subscribed to the mailing lists at vger.rutgers.edu.au no longer has a valid email address (or never did in the first place). So what happens? Because the list mail originates from people who post the message in the first place, the error mail gets sent back to them. As it now stands, if you post to linux-config, you pay the penalty for it! Bah! I for one don't care, nor do I want to know about it -- it's NOT my problem. Please make this stop! The pity of this is that the error message returned by the mickyslop MTA is as uninformative as the message is useless. A real MTA (like sendmail, qmail, etc) would at least give some idea of what is causing the problem and then what to do about it. Ok, I know I'm bitching, but I've tried in private email to get something done about this. So I'm now resorting to making a noise about it to a wider audience. These things are (or should be) easy to fix. It shouldn't happen in the first place. I'm subscribed to around 30 mailing lists (and have been so for several years - thank got for procmail to pre-sort it all as it is delivered!), and I must admit that this doesn't happen too often. But it is highly irritating when it does happen and nothing is done about fixing it. For the innocent bystanders here, the lessons to be learned are: (1) not to use brain-dead Mail Transport Agents, and (2) if you ever become system administrators, PLEASE learn how to configure things like this properly! (BTW, no disrepute to the fine folks at vger.rutgers.edu -- having been tuned in to the mailng lists there for at least 5 years, I know that they do a damn fine job there, and sometimes under difficult circumstances). Sorry to intrude... now back to your regular viewing. Cheers Tony Nugent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Systems Administrator ------- Forwarded Message Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 21:30:00 +1100 From: PostMaster7 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Tony Nugent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Mail failure [008] Failure delivering user mail due to mailbag contention. Mail item was not delivered to: - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - -- Microsoft Mail v3.0 (MAPI 1.0 Transport) IPM.Microsoft Mail.Note From: Tony Nugent To: Song Jianping Cc: Linux Config Email List Subject: Re: Re[2]: why two patterns of time displayed? Date: 1999-11-03 22:18 Priority: 3 Message ID: E6CC9F62DB91D311AE790008C724ADD2 On Wed Nov 03 1999 at 16:11, Song Jianping wrote: [ ... contents of my message to the mailing list deleted ...] ------- End of Forwarded Message
