Linux-Development-Sys Digest #273, Volume #6 Wed, 13 Jan 99 14:14:20 EST
Contents:
Re: Linux v2.1.132 and 2940U/UW Scsi boot problems? (Dave Campbell)
Re: How to run Windows Applications on Linux (Jens Kristian S�gaard)
Re: S3 ViRGE + KDE (Jens Kristian S�gaard)
Re: Resuming a program execution after SIGSEGV excep. (Bjorn Reese)
Re: Registry for Linux - Bad idea (Stefan Monnier)
uid and euid (Michael Vaughn)
Re: A Call To Arms (Ancipital)
Re: Why I'm dumping Linux, going back to Windblows (Chris)
Re: GUI, The Next Generation ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: disheartened gnome developer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Resuming a program execution after SIGSEGV excep. (Richard Jones)
! * Free Long Distance Phone Service * ! (ICBA)
Re: disheartened gnome developer (Marco Anglesio)
Re: A Call To Arms (Alan L.M. Buxey)
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From: Dave Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Linux v2.1.132 and 2940U/UW Scsi boot problems?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 18:22:00 -0700
On 8 Jan 1999, M Sweger wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Has anybody gotten Linux v2.1.132 working with the Scsi 2940U/UW Dual
> adapter with SCSI Bios v1.33S2 and a 9.1Gig Western Digital hard drive?
> Presently, I'm using DosLinux (the latest) and on bootup, the SCSI card
> seems to be recognized for SCSIDs configurations (such as terminations)
> and interrupts, but hangs forever and never sees the 9.1Gig WD hard drive
> on SCSID0. Are there still problems with the 2940 SCSI driver?
> The SCSI card has the AIC 7895 chipset too.
>
>
snip
I had the same problem with a 2940UW I bought about 6-7 weeks ago. What
ever the current 2.1 series kernel was at that time wouldn't boot with the
scsi card in, got into an endless timeout-reset loop. I wrung my hands
for about 2 weeks then upped the kernel to 2.1.34 and have had nothing but
joy since. I'm not really sure about what kernel versions did and didn't
work with the 2940UW, but the point is a move up to the latest (2.2pre5 as
of now) may be all you need.
Dave Campbell
Raytheon Missile Systems Co.
Tucson AZ, USA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
520-794-4879
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jens Kristian S�gaard)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: How to run Windows Applications on Linux
Date: 13 Jan 1999 03:25:46 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brett W. McCoy) writes:
> > Santa's making a list. If You could have any piece of software ported
> > to Linux, other than Microsoft's what would it be?
> PageMaker or CorelDRAW!
I've successfully run PageMaker on Linux using WINE. Try it ;-)
--
Jens Kristian S�gaard,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jens Kristian S�gaard)
Subject: Re: S3 ViRGE + KDE
Date: 13 Jan 1999 16:19:15 +0100
Paul Mackinlay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> styles to non KDE applications" off and execute "xrdb ~/.Xdefaults".
The xrdb call is not needed really; KDE disregards the normal
settings.
> didn't bother changing my run level from 5 to 3.... guess what happened? The
If you use LILO ( you probably do ), you can set the default init
level on the prompt - and thus you did not need the bootdisk.
If you normally enter "linux" to boot up, just enter "linux 3" to
enter initlevel 3.
> Anyway I am back to using the S3 server which still presents small problems
Please, use the SVGA server. It should be better.
--
Jens Kristian S�gaard,
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bjorn Reese)
Subject: Re: Resuming a program execution after SIGSEGV excep.
Date: 13 Jan 1999 14:42:48 GMT
Bjorn Reese ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> SIGSEGV should only be caugth to make a graceful exit (logging the error,
> perhaps backing up important data, and similar.) This can usually be done
> within the signal handler, if you only rely on MT-Safe functions. You can
^^^^^^^
Whoops, I meant to say Async-Safe.
> escape the signal handler context with setjmp/longjmp() if needed. However,
> unless you know exactly what you are doing, you will be in for trouble by
> attempting such things.
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From: Stefan Monnier
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Registry for Linux - Bad idea
Date: 13 Jan 1999 10:22:55 -0500
>>>>> "Frank" == Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> how about this?
> opStore is an advanced configuration library consisting of 4 parts.
> 1) a powerful, flexible internal data representation format capable of
> 2) a front end api suitable for embedding in applications. it includes
> 3) a back end api for plugging in dynamically loadable modules capable of
> 4) a core logic implemented behind the front end api for evaluating the
My take on it would be slightly different:
I'd first offer a config-location API. Using an envvar like CONFPATH
to find configuration files, this would just provide a consistent way
of dealing with the placement of configuration files without any regard
for the actual content of those configs (which could be files or directories).
This first level would be quite simple and could be added to existing programs
quite easily.
On top of this, you could keep using your hand coded parser. Or you could
use one of the "standard" config format. One such standard could be the one
proposed above by Frank (which seems similar to Emacs' "custom").
And another could be based on guile (or tcl, ...).
Stefan
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Vaughn)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: uid and euid
Date: 13 Jan 1999 15:50:49 GMT
Is there anyway to get the user id and the effective user id for
a process given the pid? getuid() and geteuid() get this info for the
current process but how can i get it for any process currently running?
Mike
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Michael Vaughn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ancipital)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.m68k
Subject: Re: A Call To Arms
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:33:01 GMT
On Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:58:15 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(MalkContent) wrote:
>
>Hey, of all the wonderful possibilities for Linux, the windoze principle is fine -
>help the less thecnical of us along.
>
>However, one still needs to address the issue of exactly how much a pain in the a$$
>linux becomes for one changing over to any other OS (not that windows is a real
>OS...but thats another argument.)
>
>As one of the converts, i personally mourn the loss of some of my windows games...
>and can't really see a mass marketing for a linux game.
>
>Imagine for a moment how many people actually use linux for their home machines.
>Relatively few.
>Consider for another moment how many people using linux get mildly insulted when one
>suggests paying for software (after Linux is free...)
>The financial feasibility is extremely limited...after all, why market to a small
>subsection of the computer using population when marketing to the windoze portion
>spend more?
>
>It'd be nice to be in the days of "available for Dos, windows, or Linux"
>but nobody stepped up, and its to the point of either being one OS or the other.
>
Please format your posts properly. Without line breaks, the text is
ugly, and hard to read, and detracts from the already fairly thin
content still further
Emily Postnews on on her way with a heavy stick...
.
Ancipital- Inedible Buddhas reality control #1
http://www.buddhas.org is currently tqt- back soon.
To unmung email addr, remove all instances of "aremadeoffish"
"I'm not crying victim, but I am stating that a lot of spammers
are genuine scumbags." -Sanford Wallace
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From: Chris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why I'm dumping Linux, going back to Windblows
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:50:29 -0600
That couldn't have been put more eloquently Russel.
Chris
Russell L. Rader wrote:
>
> Castelnuovo L. wrote:
> > <snip>
> > > : This business of congratulating yourself on having overcome a steep
> > > : learning curve, just tells many us us that you are waste a lot of time
> > > : (or might be a masocist). Why not just insist on sensible tools that
> > > : do the best work for the job at hand.
> > >
> >
> <snip>
> > the difference is in the attitude to explore new realities.
> > You can take the phone and call your vendor when you have trouble , instead
> > of taking the responsability of your system, you can , we don't!
>
> No, the difference is that some people are users and some people are
> programmers/administrators/hackers. There is nothing wrong with either
> viewpoint: for the user, they just want a tool to make their *real* job
> easier, while for the programmer the tool *is* their job. Why should a
> businessman become a programmer; it's not his job. It's my job; that's
> what I get paid for. :-)
>
> Or to use another poster's analogy: The guy who wants a new kind of
> wrench to work on a car doesn't want to go to the Cincinnati Millacron
> milling machine to make it, he just wants a wrench for crisakes! He's a
> mechanic, not a machinist. He'd only use the milling machine once in a
> blue moon, so why bother to learn it? But the machinist loves his
> milling machine, and wouldn't live without it. He uses it everyday, and
> in the long run learning how to use it makes his life much easier.
>
> So if Linux doesn't make your life easier; fine, don't use it. If
> Windows makes your life harder, don't use it. This thread is like
> arguing over which is better: a hammer or a screwdriver. Gee, it
> depends.
>
> Russ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: GUI, The Next Generation
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:24:38 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Walter Lundby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Took X-Win and wrapped it into a cylinder.
>
> Took a VR display. High res in center of vision
> field. Low res for surrounding field of vision.
Mapping X onto a primitive in VR has been done many time, by for instance
SICS (www.sics.se). But that is still just texturemapping. What I would like
to have would be a completely vector-based GUI. The screens in the VR could
then have infinite resolution, if implemented with level-of-detail. When a
good vector-based GUI is done, and VR goggles with see-through capability
("augmented reality") then... goodbye CRT.
/ jjoohhaann@@ttiiqq..ccoomm
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: disheartened gnome developer
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:16:37 GMT
In article <J9Om2.4364$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Marco Anglesio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.development.system [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 2) The judge can't just throw away a contract signed by the company.
> > Otherwise, all commercial operations of a bankrupted company would
> > be under perennial revision when that company goes under!
>
> And they are when a company goes under.
All commercial operations the company has ever done?
I don�t think so.
<snip some more explanations on the hell of bankrupcy>
What can I say, I trust more the opinion of a norweguian lawyer on norwegian
law than I trust USENET :-)
Then again, Qt will be under a open source license very soon, so the relative
importance of this is decreasing.
--
Roberto Alsina (KDE developer)
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From: Richard Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Resuming a program execution after SIGSEGV excep.
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 14:16:11 +0000
Bjorn Reese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Richard Jones ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
:> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:> : void sig_handler ( int signum, struct sigcontext info )
:> : {
:> : if (signum==SIGSEGV)
:> : {
:> : /*
:> : ...
:> : what shoud I do to re-execute the instruction which caused
:> : the exception ?
:> : ...
:> : */
:> Answer: Just `return;' and the instruction will be
:> restarted.
: Which is most likely to cause yet another SIGSEGV, and so on ad infinitum.
Depends if you fix the problem or not (... see mprotect(2)
for instance). I'd say that fiddling with SIGSEGV handlers
is quite powerful and it doesn't do to put people off. For
instance, with only a minimal amount of hackery, you can
create memory segments which appear to be transparently
shared between machines located across a network (so called
`distributed shared memory'). Or you can have `magic'
database objects which only get loaded into memory when you
access them the first time. Or arrays which grow
transparently as you access them. Or pointers with special
significance which cause code to be executed when you use
them.
Rich.
: SIGSEGV should only be caugth to make a graceful exit (logging the error,
: perhaps backing up important data, and similar.) This can usually be done
: within the signal handler, if you only rely on MT-Safe functions. You can
: escape the signal handler context with setjmp/longjmp() if needed. However,
: unless you know exactly what you are doing, you will be in for trouble by
: attempting such things.
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From: Marco Anglesio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: disheartened gnome developer
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:56:10 GMT
In comp.os.linux.development.system [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> All commercial operations the company has ever done?
> I don't think so.
Not all; but almost everything has to go through the trustee in
bankruptcy. Especially the sale of assets. Which is the point of
bankruptcy: if things didn't go through the trustee, any company could
simply declare bankruptcy and go on its merry way, never paying its
creditors a cent until it was but a shell.
> <snip some more explanations on the hell of bankrupcy>
> What can I say, I trust more the opinion of a norweguian lawyer on norwegian
> law than I trust USENET :-)
As well you should :). If you can get a Norwegian lawyer to expound on
Norwegian law wrt this (both the US and Canada have creditor protection
statutes which date to the depression; I don't know whether Norway does or
would), it would probably raise the tone of this discussion significantly.
> Then again, Qt will be under a open source license very soon, so the relative
> importance of this is decreasing.
I'd like to see it. I use Debian, and the moment that Qt is part of the
standard distro will be not a moment too soon.
marco
--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] capable of this kind of embarrassing, greenhorn
http://www.the-wire.com/~mpa civic wonder anymore. (James Poniewozik)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan L.M. Buxey)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.m68k
Subject: Re: A Call To Arms
Date: 13 Jan 1999 16:13:26 GMT
On Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:09:10 +0000 ,Francisco =?iso-8859-1?Q?Cola=E7o?= posted the
following:
: PHIL SMITH wrote:
: > Besides, how many people have actually paid
: > for software under Linux (be honest, now)? I have not, and probably will
: > not ever pay for anything under Linux, the free stuff so far has filled
: > my needs.
: >
: I must be a nobody, since I have paid my VariCAD license, and am willing
: to extend it for another year.
yep - keep all the big developers out of the way for good ...hmmm
alan
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