Linux-Development-Sys Digest #374, Volume #6      Thu, 4 Feb 99 02:14:05 EST

Contents:
  Select and FIFO's (Jonathan Crenner)
  include directories (Sebastian Bo�ung)
  ppp and 2.2.1 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Why I'm dumping Linux, going back to Windblows (John Burton)
  Re: disheartened gnome developer (Matthias Warkus)
  Re: 2.2.1 ("Roy Jackson")
  fsck.ext2 Problems During Boot (K Lee)
  Re: 2.2.1 and modules -- modules.dep is empty (Neal Becker)
  2.2.1 and soundmodule problem (David Ronis)
  LM79 support? (Ricardo Manuel Pacheco Salgado)
  Re: disheartened gnome developer (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Unix/Advanced Computing People (Ed Finch)
  Re: 2.2.1 and modules -- modules.dep is empty (N1ho)
  Re: use theramin as input device (Ethan A Merritt)
  Re: Linux on ARM7 ?? (Philip Blundell)
  Re: Ignorant Socalists (was disheartened gnome developer) (Martin Maney)
  Re: Diskless systems? (Martin Maney)

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From: Jonathan Crenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Select and FIFO's
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 01:55:24 +0100

I try to wait for a FIFO to be writable by using select :

  /* Variables required for FIFO's manipulation */
  int res, pipe_fd;

  /* Variables required for select usage */
  fd_set inputs, testfds;
  int result, nread;

  /* Renitialization of the sets of file descriptors */
  FD_ZERO (&inputs);

  /* Sets STDIN as a watched file descriptor */
  FD_SET (0, &inputs);

  /* Sets the FIFO as a watched file descriptor */
  FD_SET (res, &inputs);

  while (1) /* wait for the pipe or a keyboard input */
    {
      testfds = inputs; /* initialization of select variables */

      if (access(FIFO_NAME, F_OK) == -1)
        {
          res = mkfifo(FIFO_NAME, 0777);
          if (res != 0)
            {
              fprintf (stderr, "Error while creating read FIFO %s...\n", FIFO_NAME);
              exit (EXIT_FAILURE);
            }
        }

      result = select (FD_SETSIZE, &testfds, (fd_set *) 0, (fd_set *) 0, 0);
      printf ("Value of result : %d.\n",result);

      switch (result)
        {
        case -1 :
          printf ("Error in the select...\n");
          break;

        default :
          printf ("Process banque (ID : %d) opening FIFO O_RDONLY\n", getpid());
          pipe_fd = open (FIFO_NAME, O_RDONLY);

          if (pipe_fd != -1)
            {
              do
                {
                  res = read (pipe_fd, (char *)&op, sizeof(struct operation));
                }
              while (res > 0);

              (void) close (pipe_fd);
            }
          else
            {
              fprintf (stderr, "Error during opening of the pipe...\n");
              exit (EXIT_FAILURE);
            }
          printf ("Content of the FIFO : %s\n", op.nom);
          exit (1);
        }
    }

That do not works.

I think that FD_SET (res, &inputs); is not correct.

Could someone help me ?

--
Jonathan Crenner
El�ve en 2e ann�e ing�nieur � l'EFREI
(Ecole Fran�aise d'Electronique et d'Informatique)
E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ou [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: bossung@{remove_this}gmx.de (Sebastian Bo�ung)
Subject: include directories
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 19:16:58 GMT

Hi,

I�m kind of new to Linux and to C++ as well. When I tried my first
little
program:

#include <iostream.h>
main()
{
  cout << "test";
}

the compiler complained it could not find iostream.h. I figured that
this
is because of the file not being in a directory that is searched for 
header files. I found iostream.h in /usr/include/g++/ and added the
directory
to the path (using the -I option of gcc). The compiler now complains
about
a ton of errors (probably having to do with iostream.h being in a
differen
directory). How do I fix this? Do I have to copy all the *.h into the 
/usr/include directory (gcc can see the file there)?

Thanks for your time

Sebastian

_____
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address to reply by mail! I'm sorry for the 
inconvinience but I'm sick of spam.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ppp and 2.2.1
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:47:27 +0100

Hi,

I have a strange problem with a new compilied Kernel 2.2.1: when I use ppp via
my ISP, the connection is about a quarter slower as it is with a standard
(Debian-)Kernel out of the box (you see, I use a Debian system 2.1). The
Kernel 2.1 does not exist as an image, but I got the same problem, when I
compiled a 2.0.35/36 Kernel last time. My pppd ist the newest available in
slink: 2.3.5, so thats enought. Has anyone got the same problem? I dont know what
to do at the moment. All the other things work really well with the new
kernel.

Thanks in advance. Andreas.

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From: John Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Why I'm dumping Linux, going back to Windblows
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 15:56:40 GMT

Derek Bem wrote:
> 
> Emile van Bergen wrote:
> ...
> > Oh. So reading the man page as it is prevented you from learning
> > something which you could have learned if it were written in the same
> > latin characters, but with color and indexes. I see.
> >
> > (Or did I just fall for a quite funny ironic remark? ;-)
> 
> Oh. So form does not matter, how the material is presented is not
> relevant. All those Universities doing research on HOW to teach are
> wasting their time -- WHAT to teach, yes, but HOW -- does not matter.
> Print 500 pages long manual, 7pts Courier will do just fine, forget the
> index and illustrations.

All those Universities doing research on how to teach haven't done much
good in the US... wonder if there is any correlation to the
implementation of those "research projects" and the current (sad) state
of affairs in US public education...;-)

John

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matthias Warkus)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: disheartened gnome developer
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:01:05 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

It was the Tue, 02 Feb 1999 15:09:12 -0800...
..and Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Matthias Warkus wrote:
> > 
> > It was the Mon, 01 Feb 1999 00:46:14 -0800...
> > ..and Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Thank you - not everything in the world exists
> > > because of or for the benefit of economics.
> > 
> > May I put this into my soon-to-come .signature rotation?
> 
> Consider it in the public domain - not even GPL'd.
> 
> It was in response to:
> 
> Marco Anglesio wrote:
> > 
> > On Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:35:07 -0500, jerryn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Open Software and freeing source code isn't socialism.
> > 
> > Isn't socialist. It's neither socialist nor capitalist; it just is.
> 
> which I think is more "quotable".

OK, Marco; I'll throw that in, too, OK?

BTW, my sig rotation is now in effect, but it's only a brain-dead
script at the moment. Are there any professional solutions for this?

mawa
-- 
Some people seem to have a kind of key to life. They've got an easy way
to decode it, or either to strip it clean of everything that doesn't go
with their model of it. Other people have got to face it in its
entirety, or at least what looks like its entirety.             -- mawa
%        
Warkus' Law of Unix Software Evolution:
1. Common sense will eventually win out.
2. We didn't say it will happen soon.
                                                                -- mawa

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From: "Roy Jackson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.1
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 17:48:12 -0900

Uncompressing Linux...... Ok, booting the kernel...

locks hard

Jonathan Stott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:79a2gg$rd2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>In article <799ta0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Me <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>after a few attempts of compling a new kernel it still will not boot
>>it goes to loading linux then locks up tight..
>>any ideas?
>
>Did you remember to run LILO after building the new kernel?  If you're sure
>you did, run it again anyway and then tell us what the last thing the
kernel
>prints before things lock up.
>
>-JS
>
>--
>Jonathan Stott                                         xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>icbm://41.30.14N/81.36.36W/  [EMAIL PROTECTED]    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>    Physicist for hire - http://poly.phys.cwru.edu/~jstott/resume.html



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From: K Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fsck.ext2 Problems During Boot
Date: 3 Feb 1999 21:32:04 GMT

Hello,

When I rebooted, the error message I got while it was performing fsck.ext2
was "unresolved symbol..._bzero..ladi ladi la..".  So it dropped me to a
maintenance shell.

But since I can't upgrade or re-install e2fsprogs when in that mode,
telling me I can't write to disk, what am I supposed to do in this case? 
When I do 'df -h', it only shows hdb1 even though I have hdb2 and hdb3 as
well. 

Will booting into Linux with "linux single" allow me to mount and use the
floppy drive and re-install e2fsprogs?  I was thinking I could download
and save it on a floppy, then copy it over to my HD and then re-install
it.

What would some of you do in this case?  Any help or tips would be greatly
appreciated.  Thank you very much in advance.

Best,

Steve

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Subject: Re: 2.2.1 and modules -- modules.dep is empty
From: Neal Becker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 03 Feb 1999 22:25:25 -0500

>>>>> "N1ho" == N1ho  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 I forget
    N1ho> when, but I suspect somewhere around 2.1.121, there was a change to the 
module
    N1ho> methodology (aside from going to a different daemon) and you have to 'make
    N1ho> modules' while the kernel for which the modules are being compiled for is
    N1ho> running. 

I seriously doubt this.  I always do make zImage install modules
modules_install; and have no problems.

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From: David Ronis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2.2.1 and soundmodule problem
Date: 4 Feb 1999 03:58:21 GMT

I've been running 2.2.1 on an i586 since it was released (upraded from
2.2.0).  No major problems, but  I've had the following problems with the 
sound modules (I have a SB16):

Feb  3 22:26:15 kirkwood insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.1/misc/soundcore.o: 
    a module named soundcore already exists

and more serious

Jan 31 15:39:40 kirkwood insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.1/misc/sound.o: init_module:
         No such file or directory
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at 
        virtual address c282b393
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: current->tss.cr3 = 01b79000, ^r3 = 01b79000
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: *pde = 01ec0063
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: *pte = 00000000
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: Oops: 0000
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: CPU:    0
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: EIP:    0010:[<c282b393>]
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: EFLAGS: 00010296
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: eax: 00000000   ebx: 00000000   
        ecx: 00000000   edx: 00000000
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: esi: c0d47f54   edi: 00000003   
        ebp: 00000003   esp: c0d47f3c
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: Process sndserver 
        (pid: 5566, process nr: 45, stackpage=c0d47000)
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: Stack: c282b602 00000000 00000000 c028da70
         c0e1c7c4 c0b1f750 6e756f73 6c732d64 
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel:        302d746f 00000000 00000003 000000ff 
        c018409c c0198500 c0122d0f c0e1c7c4 
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel:        c028da70 c028da70 00000000 c0e1c7c4 
        c0121c7c c0e1c7c4 c028da70 00000006 
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: Call Trace: [<c282b602>] [<c018409c>] 
        [<c0122d0f>] [<c0121c7c>] [<c0121db6>] [<c0107ab4>] [<c010002b>] 
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: Code: <1>Unable to handle kernel 
        paging request at virtual address c282b393
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: current->tss.cr3 = 01b79000, ^r3 = 01b79000
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: *pde = 01ec0063
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: *pte = 00000000
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: Oops: 0000
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: CPU:    0
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: EIP:    0010:[<c0107f99>]
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: EFLAGS: 00010046
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: eax: 00000000   ebx: 00000000   
        ecx: c282b393   edx: c1d70000
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: esi: 0000002b   edi: c0d48000  
         ebp: c2800000   esp: c0d47e7c
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: ds: 0018   es: 0018   ss: 0018
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: Process sndserver 
        (pid: 5566, process nr: 45, stackpage=c0d47000)
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: Stack: 00000003 c0d46000 c01ae70e 
        c0d47f54 00000003 00000003 00000000 00000000 
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel:        00000000 00000000 c282b393 
        00010296 02000000 c3000000 c0108000 c0d47f00 
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel:        c0180b18 c01819ce 00000000 
        00000000 c010cb26 c01819ce c0d47f00 c0170000 
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: Call Trace: [<c282b393>] [<c3000000>] 
        [<c0108000>] [<c0180b18>] [<c01819ce>] [<c010cb26>] [<c01819ce>] 
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel:        [<c0170000>] [<c0107bed>] [<c0170000>]
         [<c282b393>] [<c282b602>] [<c018409c>] [<c0122d0f>] [<c0121c7c>] 
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel:        [<c0121db6>] [<c0107ab4>] [<c010002b>] 
Jan 31 15:39:41 kirkwood kernel: Code: 8a 04 0b 89 44 24 38 
        50 68 10 0b 18 c0 e8 25 94 00 00 83 c4 
Jan 31 15:40:06 kirkwood insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.1/misc/uart401.o: 
        a module named uart401 already exists
Jan 31 15:40:08 kirkwood kernel: Sound: DMA (output) timed out 
        - IRQ/DRQ config error?

The funny thing is that sound seems to work fine in spite of there.
Also the module already existing message seems to happen every time
the sound modules are loaded, while the oops only happend once.

David

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ricardo Manuel Pacheco Salgado)
Subject: LM79 support?
Date: 4 Feb 1999 01:03:30 GMT

I'm sure all of you are already familiar with the LM79/78 chip, it's that little thing 
that let's you monitor temperature, fan speed and voltages inside your system.
My question is: does v2.2 support this chip? will it ever support it? are there any 
programs to do it?
it would be nice to do cat /dev/temperature..

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: disheartened gnome developer
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 00:50:25 GMT

On Wed, 3 Feb 1999 18:01:05 +0000, Matthias Warkus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>It was the Tue, 02 Feb 1999 15:09:12 -0800...
>..and Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Matthias Warkus wrote:
>> > 
>> > It was the Mon, 01 Feb 1999 00:46:14 -0800...
>> > ..and Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > > Thank you - not everything in the world exists
>> > > because of or for the benefit of economics.
>> > 
>> > May I put this into my soon-to-come .signature rotation?
>> 
>> Consider it in the public domain - not even GPL'd.
>> 
>> It was in response to:
>> 
>> Marco Anglesio wrote:
>> > 
>> > On Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:35:07 -0500, jerryn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > >Open Software and freeing source code isn't socialism.
>> > 
>> > Isn't socialist. It's neither socialist nor capitalist; it just is.
>> 
>> which I think is more "quotable".
>
>OK, Marco; I'll throw that in, too, OK?
>
>BTW, my sig rotation is now in effect, but it's only a brain-dead
>script at the moment. Are there any professional solutions for this?

(load "/home/cbbrowne/scheme/pltstd.scm")
 
;;; Seed RNG
 (random-seed (current-seconds))
 
;;;;;   This is not a wondrous way of reading a cookie, but it works...
 (define (readcookie jar cookies)
   (let
       ((line (read-line jar)))
     (cond
       ((eof-object? line) cookies)   ;;; EOF?  Return cookies.
       ((= (string-length line) 0)    ;;; Length 0?  Continue to next line
        (readcookie jar (reverse (cons line (reverse cookies)))))
       ((string=? (substring line 0 1) "%")   ;;; %?  Return cookies
        cookies)
       (else                          ;;; Otherwise, add line to cookie...
        (readcookie jar (reverse (cons line (reverse cookies))))))))
 
;;; read-random-cookie
;;; Reads thru the *whole* file.
 
;;; Replace "keptcookie" with the present one if 
;;; random # equals (0 mod #ofcookies-read)
;;; This allows us to avoid reading all the cookies into RAM at once
 (define (read-random-cookie)
   (let*
       ((cookiejar "/home/cbbrowne/scheme/linuxcookies.txt")
        (JAR (open-input-file cookiejar))
        (keptcookie '()))
     (do
         ; initialization
         ((cookie '(nothing) (readcookie JAR '()))   ; Cookie value
          (cookies 1 (+ cookies 1)))                 ; Cookie count
       ((equal? '() cookie)   ; Did we get a null cookie?
        keptcookie)
       (let* ((rnd (random cookies)))
         (begin
           (if (= rnd 0)
               (begin
                 (set! keptcookie cookie))))))))
 
;;; showcookie - main "driver"
;;; Opens .signature file, and writes out the cookie.
;;; Displays the cookie too...
 (define (showcookie)
   (let* ((cookie (read-random-cookie))
          (sig (string-append (getenv "HOME") "/.signature"))
          (outport (open-output-file sig 'replace))
          (output-to-file 
           (lambda (line)
             (write-linep line outport))))
     
     (for-each output-to-file cookie)
     (for-each write-line cookie)
     (let
         ((name
           (if
            (> 256 (random 512))
            "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
            "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"))
          (web
           (if
            (> 256 (random 512))
            "- <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>"
            "- <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>")))
       (write-linep (string-append name web) outport)
       (write (string-append name web)))
     (close-output-port outport)))
 
 (showcookie)
 (exit)


-- 
Where do you *not* want to go today? "Confutatis maledictis, flammis
acribus addictis"  (<http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/msprobs.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>

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From: Ed Finch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.advocacy,comp.unix.misc,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Unix/Advanced Computing People
Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 19:48:49 -0500

Lakshmi Natarajan wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> I am looking to network with people involved in Unix and advanced
> computing
> for both personal and professional reasons.

http://www.beowulf.org

or search for "Linux" and "Beowulf" at http://www.google.com


Regards,
Ed
--
   Q: Why do PCs have a reset button on the front?
   A: Because they are expected to run Microsoft operating systems.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (N1ho)
Subject: Re: 2.2.1 and modules -- modules.dep is empty
Date: 4 Feb 1999 02:35:13 GMT

I don't use modules for anything critical in my system (i.e., system disk,
etc.), so I can always be assured of a boot path. I like to boot off of a 
floppy, although I'm getting tempted to lay down a 2.2.1 kernel on my hard
drive and save the floppies for 2.3.n. But, what I did during the latter stages
of 2.1 was to build the kernel using 'make xconfig', then 'make dep; make
clean; make bzdisk' and let it put the new kernel on a floppy. I then shutdown,
rebooted with the new kernel (hopefully), and if it came up, cd back down to
/usr/src/linux and do a 'make modules; make modules_install; depmod -a'. Then,
I was usually able to shutdown and reboot with everything working. I forget
when, but I suspect somewhere around 2.1.121, there was a change to the module
methodology (aside from going to a different daemon) and you have to 'make
modules' while the kernel for which the modules are being compiled for is
running. If you want the down and dirty details, you'll probably have to go
through the archives for c.o.l.d.system to find them.


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originating ISP for disposal by their legal teams. (AOL-internal spam to
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ethan A Merritt)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: use theramin as input device
Date: 3 Feb 1999 19:14:54 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Eric Miller  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>steve mcadams wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone know of any work that has been done with the idea of using
>> a theramin for an input/pointing device?  -steve

>Wouldn't that be making the easy, difficult? Most theramins I've seen
>are bigger than a mouse and keyboard, and would require two hands to use
>(unlike a mouse). A novel idea, but just plain silly.

But couldn't you have multiple sensors?  With 3 or more you'd have a
3D position-sensing device.  Try that with a mouse+keyboard!

                        Ethan A Merritt
                        [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Philip Blundell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.sys.arm
Subject: Re: Linux on ARM7 ??
Date: 3 Feb 1999 19:31:51 -0000

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Roger Gammans  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ah. Essentially it means the processor has the thumb and extra multiply
>instruction set features. The armlinux kernel doesn't use these to date. 
>And is unlikely to use the thumb set for some time since I don't think
>binutils supports them yet. 

Actually binutils and GCC do support Thumb now.  Cygnus have been
doing some work on this.

p.

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From: Martin Maney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Ignorant Socalists (was disheartened gnome developer)
Date: 4 Feb 1999 00:16:54 GMT

John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Marco Anglesio writes:
>> MS would be just fine without the state, even without a state. They'd
>> probably be pretty happy to be free of the restrictions.

> Without copyright Microsoft would not exist.

Yeah, if their source code weren't copyrighted we'd all be compiling it and
running unpaid-for copies of Windows left and right... not.  Or do you
assume that without copyright there would be no proprietary secrets or
restrictive licensing?  While I'll agree that it might be logically
consistent for those to go hand in hand, that's a far cry from requiring
them to correlate in the real [illogical] world.

Your Q is not ED, I'm afraid.

[followups set correctly]

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From: Martin Maney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Diskless systems?
Date: 4 Feb 1999 00:44:34 GMT

John Reiser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The smallest web serving system that I have seen is QNX's demo: the
> whole OS, PPP dialer, browser, and server fits on _one_ 1.44MB floppy,

Depends on what you're measuring: this one was *much* smaller than a floopy
disk drive (about 2" x 3" I think).  I now believe I have lost the URL, BTW,
so if someone else knows it...  :-)

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